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Peterson! That’s right. Peterson and to a far lesser extent Megill.

It’s great that McLean and Sproat are friends. I mean it doesn’t mean anything as far as wins/losses, but kinda cool. Like Baty/Vientos/Alvarez. Really hoping that these guys work out. The only pitching prospect that has stuck in the last decade is Tylor Megill.

I read something on twitter like: "She'll throw you out of the game for something you did 8 years ago". I laughed. Probably shouldn't have. All kidding aside, I hope she kicks ass. And I hope she takes the job of that ******* that did the Padres game.

Good info. Can you tell me where you got those numbers? My thoughts. C: 24th This includes a lot of unproductive Luis Torrens. It's unlikely Alvarez will stay as hot as he is, but you figure we'll be better from here on out. 1B: 7th Likely stay the same. Hopefully we won't fall off. 2B: 21st You figure with McNeil getting more time there, this will go up for the last 2 months. 3B: 20th Will likely stay the same. SS: 13th This is the big surprise. Hopefully the toe is healed and he gets hot for the last two months. LF: 8th Hopefully stays the same. CF: 29th Mullins isn't great, but he should be better than this. RF: 5th Will hopefully be better than he has been so far. DH: 12th This is a surprise. I didn't think we'd be this high. I'm not sure we'll do much better than this.

That's the most infuriating part of all this. It's not as if we have Eric Campbell or James Loney out there. How can a group that is this talented put up such middling results? It's almost incomprehensible that a team with Lindor, Soto, Alonso can be league average. Obviously I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but this is too large a sample size to call it bad luck or a rough stretch. At the end of the day, either the message is wrong, or the messenger is ineffective at delivering it.

The Mullins trade suggests they’re out on Taylor. With Vientos, I’m guessing they’re just hoping one of Vientos, Baty and Mauricio will get hot. If it were me, I’d DH Vientos every day for August. He has the best track record. If he earns it, he keeps it. If he’s still ass at the end of august you back burner him.

And speaking of this **** offense. We figured that the gap between their OPS and OPS with RISP would eventually close, but it hasn't gone the direction we wanted. The Mets are 12th in overall OPS (.725), 15th in runs scored, and 17th in OPS with RISP. As of May 22, the Mets were 9th in overall OPS, and 24th in OPS with RISP. So while their performance with RISP has gone up, their overall hitting has gone down. It's just a league average offense. Crazy to think that's possible given the talent on this roster.

In this brutal stretch where they've lost 8 of 9 games: *It's the fault of the offense: The offense has failed to score more than two runs 4 times, scoring 0, 1, 1, and 2 runs in 9 games. In one additional game, they tacked on 2 garbage time runs in the 9th to lose 12-4. *It's the fault of the starting pitching: The starting pitching hasn't been great. In 5 of the last 9 games, starters have given up 4 runs or more (Montas, Holmes, Senga, Montas again, Peterson today). Thankfully the bullpen has been ok. The bullpen lost us 2 games during this stretch and both of those guys aren't here anymore. Brazoban blew up the first game in San Diego, Butto blew up the second, but we only scored 1 run anyway, so it probably didn't make a difference. You figure the starting pitching will get a little better. But who knows with this **** offense.

OPS last 30 days. Juan Soto .681 Francisco Lindor .654 Brandon Nimmo .671 Pete Alonso .636 Jeff McNeil .682 Brett Baty .718 Ronny Mauricio .723 Mark Vientos .742 Tyrone Taylor .400 The one exception is the guy that got sent down. Francisco Alvarez .919

Yup. The mascot will be a giant potato named "Spud".

Some real buzz that this guy might be the real deal.

Mullins seems really streaky. His OPS by month: March/April: .927 May: .574 June: .500 July: .868 So he's either gonna rake or suck. Last year too: April/March: .701 May: .344!!! June: .849 July: .800 August: .641 September: .857 A few more notes. He has reverse splits in 2025, but for his career has traditional splits. .777 vs. RHP, .656 against LHP. Had a hamstring injury on May 30. So maybe some of his struggles arise from that. Probably not. Let's just hope he gets hot for 2 and a half months.

I don't know much about Mullins. Seems he's not very good.

Yeah. This.

Griffin Herring is a fun name too. It’s like the name Griffin Canning would put on his fake ID.

We used to have Juan Soto. Now we have two Sotos. [/dad joke]

Throws hard. Walks a ton of people. 3.98 ERA and WHIP of 1.294. This might the best we can hope from him. He had a WHIP of 1.566 in 2024.

I think this is right. But of the guys who are available, other than Suarez, which guys are better than what we have?

For the lineup, let's say we have five possible spots where we can upgrade: 1. Catcher. Not happening. No one is better. 2. Centerfield. Lots of guys better than Taylor. Are any better than McNeil/Nimmo/Taylor? Not for nothing, but Drew Gilbert has like a .900 OPS his last 30 days at Syracuse. Maybe he's finally healthy? 3. Second Base. Is anyone available that's better than Baty/McNeil? Baty is up to a .723 OPS overall. It's not great, but not terrible. He's been doing the every other month thing. Bad April, torrid May, ice cold June, hot July. 4. Third Base. There's Eugenio Suarez. Are we willing to give up a top prospect to get him? I guess this is where we can see the most improvement. Both Mauricio and Vientos are in the mid 600s OPS. 5. DH. Lots of options here, I guess. But we also have Winker and Marte coming back. How many of the options are better than them? And if we keep everyone, how do we figure out playing time?

I have a hard time believing David Stearns will give up Jett Williams for a relief pitcher. Even one as good as Clase. This trade deadline has me all sorts of confused. I think they'll upgrade the pen, but not with someone as good as Clase. I don't think they'll upgrade the rotation, unless they decide to add a back end starter and move Holmes to the bullpen. The lineup is even harder to figure out. Considering McNeil has been ok at CF, what options are there that are necessarily better than him out there?

Was hoping Jose Butto would be activated today. Bullpen is already stretched thin, and we have another 5 inning starter going tonight.

They've now overcome a 4 run lead twice. They finally had that game where the starter falters, they fall behind, then chip away and win it late. This thread is just under a month old. Since then: July 4 vs. NYY: Losing 5-4 in the 7th, McNeil hits a 2 run HR and the Mets come back to win. July 8 vs. Bal. Losing 6-2 in the 8th inning, Mets score 4 runs in the 8th on Lindor and Alonso HR. Win it in 10 July 12 vs. KCR. Losing 3-1 in the 8th inning, the Mets score 7 over the last two innings to win going away. July 21 vs. LAA. Fall behind 4-0 early, eventually win 7-5. Four times in two and a half weeks.

I'd be curious if the Mets were outbid, or if Robertson simply chose Philly.

But his ML BA/OBA, after pieces of four seasons and nearly 1,000 trips to the plate, is .223/.298 with only his power getting his OPS+ close to average (98). That kind of low-average/decent power numbers profiles more as a perpetual backup catcher (only without the good defense) and in this season even the power wasn't there (29 hits / 23 singles). Now the 2025 numbers are a small sample size which might have justified him being sent down but shouldn't be tagging him as a career second string label, especially for one still just 23 y/o. But what I am saying is that, at some point, he'll need to show he can improve or risk getting hung with a rep as a platoon C/DH vs LHPs or, even worse, as a AAAA player who'll bounce around looking for work in between getting released on a regular basis. So there's still time for him (especially seeing as how his FA year just moved one year further away) but there's also no time like the present for him to get going. Agree with everything you said. Just suggesting that if he could somehow duplicate his AAA average and OBP from this tiny stint at AAA, this would go a long way toward fighting that stigma you describe. In any case, I look forward to having Alvarez back. Even if he just duplicates his 2025 production so far, it will be an improvement over Torrens (.534 OPS over his last 28 days).

His BA is AAA is .268. Which I guess is not considered low anymore. I think some of that was during his rehab stint, but you’d take that. Plus his OBP is .366. Which is also fine. What struck me is all of the clips I saw of his AAA HRs is that they seem to be middle in. I’m skeptical he’ll see any of those pitches when he gets back to the bigs. Would be helpful to know what he did with sliders away during this last month.