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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Let;s turn 3. That's the only reason I'm still watching.

I was gonna type "unbelievable"... except it isn't.

Word is, they're moving Parnell to the rotation. Link here[/url:3s3okxem]

="Kong76":1muqqxe1]the visiting team is more than welcome to take advantage of the fences, no?[/quote:1muqqxe1] Not at Yankee Stadium, no. Frayed Knot Aug 06 2009 07:26 PM Everything is harder in Yanqui Stadium ... everyone knows that. What traditionally made LF in YS1 difficult was a) that was the sun field and there was so much effing ground to cover But what Kay & co don't realize is that a) 90% of games are played at night now including (drum roll) THIS ONE! and that was two stadiums ago and this park is barely above average size in LCF Smoltz can't get anyone out. Sox brass keeps talking like he's just thisfar away from "finding it" or whatever but he isn't getting better as he goes on. That the Sox are giving him a regular spot in the rotation and just signed (re-signed really since he was theirs last) Paul Byrd means things aren't going too well in Chowder-land. Byrd - 38 - didn't sign this winter thinking instead that he'd find someone who needed help at mid-season. Fortunately, Jobba the Fat isn't doing much better. End of the 5th inning and this game is already longer than like half the NYM games I've been fishing up in that 1969 thread. Kong76 Aug 07 2009 07:01 PM Quite the as-advertised pitcher's duel going on up there in the Bronx! Frayed Knot Aug 07 2009 07:57 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 07 2009 07:58 PM ... Frayed Knot Aug 07 2009 07:58 PM And it's still going to take them over 3 hours to play 9 even though no one has scored and there are very few hits. Beckett's another one of these guys who takes forever to throw a fucking pitch. Ashie62 Aug 07 2009 08:26 PM YANQUIS SUCK Frayed Knot Aug 07 2009 09:15 PM Poor Michael Kay almost wet himself. Jeter came up w/2 out in the 10th and a runner on 3rd in a still scoreless game causing Kay to go into the whole 'how many times have we seen him come through' routine - ignoring that Jeter had already made the last out in 3 different innings tonight (3rd, 5th & 8th) including once w/a runner on 3rd and once w/bases loaded. He struck out. Sox now batting in the 12th. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 07 2009 09:33 PM Going to 13th John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 07 2009 09:55 PM Going to 14th as Gayrod leaves the winning run on first John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 07 2009 10:21 PM JD Drew with a fantastic catch to save the Sawx... for now... 2 on, 2 out in the Bottom 14th... John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 07 2009 10:25 PM Onto the 15th. Watching 2 games at once, posting and drinking PBR here, fellas. Frayed Knot Aug 07 2009 10:27 PM Sawx got some Japanese pitcher who's apparently working his first ever MLB game right now - and they've got no one left in the pen so it's his to win or lose. Had a couple of screamers hit off him there but one at'em ball and one great running catch by JD Drew John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 07 2009 10:42 PM Gayrod 2rHR Frayed Knot Aug 07 2009 10:45 PM I heard exactly ONE phone call on FAN today - it was a Yanqui fan calling to say that ARod is a "disgrace to the team" Wonder if he wants to give the win back? MFS62 Aug 08 2009 06:55 AM I'm glad it was A-Rod and not Jeter. Later Frayed Knot Aug 08 2009 07:00 AM But Jeter scored the winning run don't you see? ARod's run was meaningless. I mean, yeah, he went one-for-seven and left a small village on base in several game-winning situations, but he saved his one hit for when it really mattered and thus inspired Alex to his stat-padding hit. MFS62 Aug 08 2009 08:52 AM Thank you, sir, for that reality check. I stand corrected. Please forgive me. Later metirish Aug 08 2009 09:24 AM I watched his home run on my app. one thing about Gay-Rod that never changes is how he acts after hitting the home run , gets to the plate and it's like he is seeking out team mates to hug . I don't know but it's as if they want to avoid him... Kong76 Aug 08 2009 01:31 PM Test message from Yankee ass: "Don't forget there's a major league game on this afternoon on FOX." Frayed Knot Aug 08 2009 03:38 PM There's been a Matt Franco sighting at YSIII today. He's there checking out his [step-cousin's?] main squeeze along with his Uncle Kurt and kind of Aunt Goldie. Oh, and just by the way, the Sox are being no-hit thru 5, meaning that they're now working on 20 scoreless innings w/just 4 singles. Come to think of it they didn't score over the last 4 or 5 innings on Thursday night either. Kong76 Aug 08 2009 03:47 PM For a pitcher with a no hitter through five, some of these half innings seemingly take forever. But it's a no hitter through five. No Red Sox player has gotten a hit. There was an error, and I think a walk, but there have been no hits. None. Not one. No hits. metirish Aug 08 2009 03:52 PM Still only through five......are they fouling of ball after ball or something..even their game last night with two great starting pitching performances took forever....of course there is nothing that says a well pitched game should be fast but I can't stomach AL ball. Frayed Knot Aug 09 2009 09:58 AM Bill Madden - after months of articles about how the NY teams and their 'barren' farms were doing things the wrong way while Theo's club and his build through the system method was the way to go - is suddenly praising Cashman's spending spree and mocking Theo's "cheapness" as the ALEast threatens to turn into a rout. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/08/09/2009-08-09_yankees_and_red_sox_rivalry.html?page=0 Funny, innit, how the team on top is always the one who did things the right way to get there? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 09 2009 03:05 PM Fresh off a three-game sweep at the worst team in the majors (Nats, natch), the Marlins are three outs and -7 runs away from sweeping the first-place Phils, behind a handful of big hits by Cody Ross and some nice pitching at the bandbox from Josh Johnson and the resurgent Ricky Nolasco. Elster88 Aug 09 2009 05:55 PM Nationals have won eight in a row. They were 40 games under .500 when they started that streak. SNY says that's the third best winning streak for a team that was 40 or more when the streak started. DocTee Aug 09 2009 07:34 PM Don't look now, but the MFYs have the best record in baseball. Is there no God? Frayed Knot Aug 09 2009 08:18 PM Boston offense held hostage: Inning 31 Methead Aug 09 2009 08:22 PM ="DocTee":27qkrg71] Is there no God?[/quote:27qkrg71] Not at Yankee Stadium, no. Elster88 Aug 09 2009 08:56 PM For some reason the Yankees make me dislike Steve Phillips more. Frayed Knot Aug 09 2009 09:26 PM The Yanquis make me dislike life more. Sawx finally score and even take a lead (2R HR from Victor Matinez) but then promptly cough up 4 runs and blow the game. Gwreck Aug 09 2009 11:07 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3f0a5k5v]the Marlins are three outs and -7 runs away from sweeping the first-place Phils[/quote:3f0a5k5v] The debacle of this season would somehow be more tolerable if Josh, Cody, Hanley, et al. could win the division instead of the Phillies. duan Aug 10 2009 03:31 AM I don't feel that way at all. If (say) the Phils romp to a 100 win season I can sell myself the concept that at least they were really good, and then chortle when they lose in the first round of the divisional series. However if the Marlins end up winning it with 88 games I go HOLY FUCK 88 GAMES. WE COULDN'T EVEN WIN 88 GAMES??????? IN A DIVISION WITH WASHINGTON?????? or something like that. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2009 09:21 AM ="duan":3retgdtu]I don't feel that way at all. If (say) the Phils romp to a 100 win season I can sell myself the concept that at least they were really good, and then chortle when they lose in the first round of the divisional series. However if the Marlins end up winning it with 88 games I go HOLY FUCK 88 GAMES. WE COULDN'T EVEN WIN 88 GAMES??????? IN A DIVISION WITH WASHINGTON?????? or something like that.[/quote:3retgdtu] I get where you're coming from. AND that feeling is drowned out by an mildly-evil wish to see the trash-talking 10-year-old (NORTH Jerseyan) Phils fan who lives down the block from my folks cry just a little; a last-month collapse to a team whose fanbase doesn't really care/exist would do the trick (If a lecture about the dangers of frontrunning ensues, from someone who cares about the little shmuck, all the better.) Edgy DC Aug 10 2009 09:33 AM Wait, you can't put a 10-year-old in his place? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2009 11:28 AM ="Edgy DC":37wweejj]Wait, you can't put a 10-year-old in his place?[/quote:37wweejj] Well, I can't make him cry without lawyers being involved somewhere along the continuum. MFS62 Aug 10 2009 12:05 PM Mike Francessa just said on WFAN that A-Rod's home run in the 15 th inning really wasn't a pressure situation because if they don't score there, they just play another inning. Later Edgy DC Aug 10 2009 12:07 PM "Kid, when your team wins, you don't have to talk crap. Makes a winner look like a loser."

The miracle of 3D ultrasound...

Gwreck wrote: My gameday just says "injury delay." Can you be more specific? Niese hurt his leg on a play at 1B... tried to throw a warmup pitch and fell down in a heap.

OH AWESOME.

*sigh*

*sigh*

Started a game on 8/3 and pitched 5 shutout innings. Opponents are batting just .195 off of him, however his K:BB ratio for the year so far stands at 5:4.

The wife and I will be sweating our asses off tomorrow afternoon in Sec 308 Row 4. Anyone know any secrets to get into one of those pre-paid parking lots from CT?

I wish they'd play this on the big screen, like that clip from Network about opening the window, sticking your head out, and yelling....

After beginning the 2009 season in extended spring training, Hebert has surfaced with the Gulf Coast Mets... again. Repeating a season with them is probably for the best, since he couldn't find the plate in 2008. So far this year, he's performing better. In limited action (7 innings) he's only walked two batters, representing a huge improvement over last year. Plenty of time to get better - he doesn't even turn 19 until 8/11. As a reliever this season he's pitched 4 shutout innings. Full stats through two games: 7IP, 4H, 1R, 4K, 2BB, 1.29 ERA

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD

If Jeff Wilpon really gets a call per week from people looking for career advice, then he certainly won't mind if I call.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3oo6bsk7]WTF wow. Jeff should walk over, fire Omar and continue the press conference.[/quote:3oo6bsk7] Seriously. It's become even more of a clusterfuck. Hilarious. Ceetar Jul 27 2009 02:10 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3qp4zecj]WTF wow. Jeff should walk over, fire Omar and continue the press conference.[/quote:3qp4zecj] Why? Omar did nothing wrong. In fact, he's fighting back. I like it. Reporters have been pissing all over the Mets for years, and Omar's simply letting them know that he's not just going to take it. bmfc1 Jul 27 2009 02:11 PM They are filling the positions of "yeller at bus drivers", "degrader of teenagers", and "shirt ripper" from within. Swan Swan H Jul 27 2009 02:12 PM Apparently the Rubin thing is true, as Rubin had the mic and didn't come out and call Omar a liar; instead, he went with the 'are you saying I tried to get a job by bringing others down?' tactic. metirish Jul 27 2009 02:12 PM I hope that SNY will air this all later. G-Fafif Jul 27 2009 02:12 PM Who will announce the firing of Jeff Wilpon? bmfc1 Jul 27 2009 02:14 PM ="G-Fafif":170fgwxi]Who will announce the firing of Jeff Wilpon?[/quote:170fgwxi] Fred! John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 27 2009 02:15 PM ="Ceetar":2gl5zgpu]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2gl5zgpu]WTF wow. Jeff should walk over, fire Omar and continue the press conference.[/quote:2gl5zgpu] Why? Omar did nothing wrong. In fact, he's fighting back. I like it. Reporters have been pissing all over the Mets for years, and Omar's simply letting them know that he's not just going to take it.[/quote:2gl5zgpu] By pissing on him back? Not a good idea. Ceetar Jul 27 2009 02:17 PM ="bmfc1":ay4dc6ba]="G-Fafif":ay4dc6ba]Who will announce the firing of Jeff Wilpon?[/quote:ay4dc6ba] Fred![/quote:ay4dc6ba] Mr. Met should give all future press conferences. bmfc1 Jul 27 2009 02:17 PM He made it seem like Rubin had a vendetta which was irrelevant to the subject of the presser unless the information was false. Omar didn't say it was false. It's important, as MGIM said, but had nothing to do with firing Tony B. bmfc1 Jul 27 2009 02:18 PM [u:nurqe9ru]A Message from Mets General Manager Omar Minaya[/u:nurqe9ru] I wanted for you to hear directly from me today regarding an update on the investigation of Tony Bernazard, our Vice President of Player Development. Prior to a series of articles published in the media, our Baseball Operations and Human Resources departments had begun looking into several matters involving Tony. Once those reports became public, we accelerated our investigation. We wanted it to be thorough and complete it as quickly as possible while still being fair to Tony. That process concluded over the weekend. Yesterday, I met with Tony in person to have a frank conversation about what we had learned following interviews with numerous people. I also wanted for Tony to have the opportunity to give his side of the story. After meeting with Tony, and giving a lot of thought to the facts, I came to a decision on Tony's status which I shared with Ownership last night. My recommendation was that we needed to part ways with Tony, as his behavior in his interaction with others was inconsistent with our organization's values. Ownership agreed with my assessment and accepted my recommendation. I spoke with Tony this morning and informed him of my decision to terminate his employment with the Mets. Personnel decisions are never easy. And one can't make them without giving it a lot of thought. It's even harder when you know someone as I do Tony. Tony and I go back a long time. He is a dedicated baseball man who loves the game, someone I like and respect, and someone who has contributed to the Mets. In the end, however, I just told him I couldn't leave him in his position after all that had transpired. As General Manager of the Mets, I am fully accountable for our Baseball Operations department -- on and off the field -- and stand by this decision. Thank you for your ongoing support of the Mets. metsguyinmichigan Jul 27 2009 02:19 PM Hey, I must rate! Omar sent me an e-mail! I wanted for you to hear directly from me today regarding an update on the investigation of Tony Bernazard, our Vice President of Player Development. Prior to a series of articles published in the media, our Baseball Operations and Human Resources departments had begun looking into several matters involving Tony. Once those reports became public, we accelerated our investigation. We wanted it to be thorough and complete it as quickly as possible while still being fair to Tony. That process concluded over the weekend. Yesterday, I met with Tony in person to have a frank conversation about what we had learned following interviews with numerous people. I also wanted for Tony to have the opportunity to give his side of the story. After meeting with Tony, and giving a lot of thought to the facts, I came to a decision on Tony's status which I shared with Ownership last night. My recommendation was that we needed to part ways with Tony, as his behavior in his interaction with others was inconsistent with our organization's values. Ownership agreed with my assessment and accepted my recommendation. I spoke with Tony this morning and informed him of my decision to terminate his employment with the Mets. Personnel decisions are never easy. And one can't make them without giving it a lot of thought. It's even harder when you know someone as I do Tony. Tony and I go back a long time. He is a dedicated baseball man who loves the game, someone I like and respect, and someone who has contributed to the Mets. In the end, however, I just told him I couldn't leave him in his position after all that had transpired. As General Manager of the Mets, I am fully accountable for our Baseball Operations department -- on and off the field -- and stand by this decision. Thank you for your ongoing support of the Mets. bmfc1 Jul 27 2009 02:20 PM NYPost_Mets There is no shortage of bad blood between Minaya and Rubin, so maybe this is Omar just trying to get some payback. No class. #Mets metirish Jul 27 2009 02:22 PM Was this as farcical as I am thinking it was from reading here? soupcan Jul 27 2009 02:28 PM I had to run out in the middle of the thing and missed all the juicy bits. Good thing I got an email from Omar too. Interesting though that he writes much, much better than he speaks. Ceetar Jul 27 2009 02:28 PM I'm polishing my resume to send to the Daily News right now. metsguyinmichigan Jul 27 2009 02:36 PM From Metsblog... "Rubin, in the audience, then told Minaya, to his face, that he is �despicable� for alleging that he set out to �tear Tony down� to take his job." If this is true, Rubin should be reassigned. You can't engage in this kind of behavior with people you are supposed to be covering objectively. Even if Omar accused him of injecting steroids into Clemens' butt and designing the Citi sleeve patch, as a professional you're supposed to sit there and take it, and deal with it later. To become a part of the story, as Rubin now is, and openly engage Omar crosses the line. G-Fafif Jul 27 2009 02:36 PM What office is Omar Minaya running for? He sounded like a politician 10 points down in the polls blaming the media for doing his job. Yes Omar, it's the media's fault. A reporter is out to get you. Keep telling yourself that. Ceetar Jul 27 2009 02:39 PM ="G-Fafif":26qhjg30]What office is Omar Minaya running for? He sounded like a politician 10 points down in the polls blaming the media for doing his job. Yes Omar, it's the media's fault. A reporter is out to get you. Keep telling yourself that.[/quote:26qhjg30] He didn't say that though. It's questionable about whether the behavior of Tony was even the territory of a Mets beat reporter. Just like people bring up "how many people know the name of their vp of player development?" The reason we know? Adam Rubin. He's admitting on the air now that he's interested in a job in baseball, but never asked specifically to be hired. Name drops Jeff Wilpon. Omar certainly spinned it, and it worked. (btw, Jon Heyman is an idiot) Omar, and the Mets, aren't planning on just sitting back and taking every smear the media throws their way, and I like it. G-Fafif Jul 27 2009 02:40 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":4cccgn14]From Metsblog... "Rubin, in the audience, then told Minaya, to his face, that he is �despicable� for alleging that he set out to �tear Tony down� to take his job." If this is true, Rubin should be reassigned. You can't engage in this kind of behavior with people you are supposed to be covering objectively. Even if Omar accused him of injecting steroids into Clemens' butt and designing the Citi sleeve patch, as a professional you're supposed to sit there and take it, and deal with it later. To become a part of the story, as Rubin now is, and openly engage Omar crosses the line.[/quote:4cccgn14] Rubin just said he doesn't know how he's gonna cover the team anymore. I can't quite blame him for his initial reaction, however. How is anybody supposed to think he's in a professional situation when Minaya is acting like a total amateur? G-Fafif Jul 27 2009 02:43 PM ="Ceetar":3uh2cnao]="G-Fafif":3uh2cnao]What office is Omar Minaya running for? He sounded like a politician 10 points down in the polls blaming the media for doing his job. Yes Omar, it's the media's fault. A reporter is out to get you. Keep telling yourself that.[/quote:3uh2cnao] He didn't say that though. It's questionable about whether the behavior of Tony was even the territory of a Mets beat reporter. Just like people bring up "how many people know the name of their vp of player development?" The reason we know? Adam Rubin. He's admitting on the air now that he's interested in a job in baseball, but never asked specifically to be hired. Name drops Jeff Wilpon. Omar certainly spinned it, and it worked. (btw, Jon Heyman is an idiot) Omar, and the Mets, aren't planning on just sitting back and taking every smear the media throws their way, and I like it.[/quote:3uh2cnao] This isn't a schoolyard. It was amazingly unprofessional of Omar. You got a problem with Rubin, you take it up with him, you take it up with his editor, you whisper in the ear of another reporter from another paper if you have to. You do not do it this way. Even if Rubin was truly doing what Minaya claimed, you don't do that. BTW, Rubin said he once asked Jeff Wilpon "how do you get a job in baseball?" and that's the extent of it. metirish Jul 27 2009 02:44 PM Rubin in player development ? , this part isn't true , is it? It's a joke surely. Gwreck Jul 27 2009 02:45 PM ="Ceetar"]He didn't say that though. It's questionable about whether the behavior of Tony was even the territory of a Mets beat reporter. It absolutely is, if it's in the capacity of his job. Tony didn't caught smoking a joint while on vacation; this stuff happened while he was on the clock. ]Omar, and the Mets, aren't planning on just sitting back and taking every smear the media throws their way, and I like it. Yay for slander! Swan Swan H Jul 27 2009 02:46 PM Rubin got caught in a conflict of interest, then tried to throw it back at Omar. He went on later and said, paraphrasing here, that he never directly asked for a job, just asked a bunch of people how he would go about getting a job in baseball. So immediately we're taking Rubin at his word and calling Omar the liar? Edgy DC Jul 27 2009 02:46 PM Rubin just put out a new edition of his book titled Pedro, Carlos, and Omar, and My Big Hairy Cock Gwreck Jul 27 2009 02:47 PM ="metirish":3w25xb5s]Rubin in player development ? , this part isn't true , is it? It's a joke surely.[/quote:3w25xb5s] What do you mean? A joke... That Rubin wanted a job in player development? Or that he wanted a job with the Mets? Or that he is capable of performing such a job? G-Fafif Jul 27 2009 02:49 PM If Rubin wanted a job on the Mets, I think we would have seen a lot more company line in his coverage these past several years. I've seen nothing that ever gave me the impression he was holding back or trying to curry favor. It never occurred to me you'd try to impress your potential future employers by continually noting how badly they run things -- that they'd be so grateful for pointing out their foibles that they'd hire you as the replacement. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 27 2009 02:50 PM ="Ceetar"]="G-Fafif"]What office is Omar Minaya running for? He sounded like a politician 10 points down in the polls blaming the media for doing his job. Yes Omar, it's the media's fault. A reporter is out to get you. Keep telling yourself that. ]He didn't say that though. It's questionable about whether the behavior of Tony was even the territory of a Mets beat reporter. Questionable? Are you the editor of the Daily News? ]Just like people bring up "how many people know the name of their vp of player development?" The reason we know? Adam Rubin. Are you suggesting we'd have been better off not knowing this? ]He's admitting on the air now that he's interested in a job in baseball, but never asked specifically to be hired. Name drops Jeff Wilpon. Omar certainly spinned it, and it worked. (btw, Jon Heyman is an idiot) Omar, and the Mets, aren't planning on just sitting back and taking every smear the media throws their way, and I like it. It's worse than having a jerk employee. metsguyinmichigan Jul 27 2009 02:52 PM ="G-Fafif":1o1ji5oc]="metsguyinmichigan":1o1ji5oc] Rubin just said he doesn't know how he's gonna cover the team anymore. I can't quite blame him for his initial reaction, however. How is anybody supposed to think he's in a professional situation when Minaya is acting like a total amateur?[/quote:1o1ji5oc][/quote:1o1ji5oc] Sure he can. I had it recently happen to me. The school district I cover and its and the union have been fighting over a contract for the last three years, and someone friendly to the district taped a private union strategy session. Someone in the session asked a question about me and covering the dispute, and the union said some things indicating they liked the coverage. The district issued a press release and held a press conference beating up the union for some of the things it said, and also taking a shot at me. (Which some of my television competitors took great glee in repeating.) We had another reporter cover the first press conference -- they held two that day -- and I attended the second, since we had already written about the issue. Rather than engage them, I had to sit there and listen, and when one of the television types came over looking for a quote I turned them away. I say this realizing that the New York market is obviously much different than mine, and there's a difference between a columnist and a reporter. But Rubin should have known better. Gwreck Jul 27 2009 02:53 PM Some more from Rubin, from last week: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2009/07/got-questions.html ]Jon Heyman mentioned on WFAN that all the sources for these Bernezard stories were coming from one paper i.e. the Daily News. How credible are your sources and do you have an axe to grind? Also you mentioned that Bernezard has been angling for Minaya's job "for a long time." I've never heard that before, just that he's a disruptive bully. If Omar were fired would the Wilpons really look to hire Tony B.? - Anup Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This is the question I've been waiting for. On the proposition that all of the stories about Bernazard are coming from one paper, let me answer that two-fold: Newsday, Ken Davidoff in particular, wrote a scatching column not too long ago, if I recall, about him. The Post has written some pretty scathing things too. I would submit, without trying to sound arrogant, that most of the breaking news about the Mets in general comes from one paper. On whether there's any vendetta, that's silly. There are two ways to do your job as a reporter. You can attach yourself to certain sources (whether that person be an agent or a front-office official) and write whatever they want, whether it's true or not, and they'll leak real news when it actually happens. Or you can just seek the truth, try to gain everyone's respect, and hopefully that serves you well in terms of people trusting you with info. I choose the latter. People don't mind warranted criticism as long as they feel like they're being treated fairly. Actually, there is a vendetta against Bernazard. He's widely hated in baseball, and by a lot of Mets minor leaguers, major leaguers, coaches and other staff. And when people see he's vulnerable, they're going to pounce and leak information. That's what's happening now. Lesson for everyone in life: Don't treat people poorly on the way up. If Omar did get pushed out, at one point I certainly could see Bernazard taking over. Now that's just not presentable to the public, is it? My intention was not to stir it up with these remarks. But, trust me, I'd match my ethics up with anyone. And if anyone in the media wants to take a more pointed shot, well, just remember about glass houses. Frayed Knot Jul 27 2009 02:54 PM If true, Rubin wouldn't be the first person to go from the media covering a team to working for the team*. The question(s) that need to be cleared up are how did Rubin go about this (if he even did) and what set Omar off about it to where he thinks he has something to gain by going after him. * Off the top of my head: Michael Kay - Yanx (NY Post beat writer, to radio man, to all-around YES man) In the early days of the Islanders, Newsday's Pat Calabria was the beat reporter. He later went to work for the club as pr/communications director or some such title Larry Rocca works (or has) w/Bobby V in Japan after covering the team for Newsday John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 27 2009 02:58 PM Yes but to suggest that Rubin stirred this whole thing up so as to exact revenge on the Mets for not having given him a job is beyond absurd. metsguyinmichigan Jul 27 2009 02:58 PM BTW, I'm not defending Omar for what he did. It was weak and unprofessional. But people we cover do all kinds of crazy stuff. You're supposed to cover the circus, not become a part of it. Gwreck Jul 27 2009 02:59 PM Jon Heyman indicated (on TV) that Omar was unhappy that he had to fire Bernazard and that the decision was not entirely his (ie. suggesting that the Wilpons went above his "full autonomy"). Frayed Knot Jul 27 2009 03:06 PM ]Mr. Met should give all future press conferences. Certainly fewer stupid things would be said. Frayed Knot Jul 27 2009 03:18 PM Joined this conversation late so I turned on FAN trying to catch up ... unfortunately it's Benigno & Roberts on intelligent talk is nowhere to be found. G-Fafif Jul 27 2009 03:20 PM Just saw the exchange as it happened on SNY. Rubin conducted himself professionally. Omar came off as accusatory, paranoid and clueless. G-Fafif Jul 27 2009 03:26 PM Synergy alert: Mets accuse News reporter of underhanded behavior, televised on SNY, owned partly by Mets. SNY follows with show called Daily News Live and has reporter on as guest to dispute Mets' account. House of mirrors. Valadius Jul 27 2009 03:43 PM Knowing the Washington Nationals, he'll be brought in as General Manager any second now... Fman99 Jul 27 2009 03:55 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":2q4ypyqe]Hey, I must rate! Omar sent me an e-mail! [/quote:2q4ypyqe] That's nothing. Tony Bernazard sent me pictures of Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno. Kong76 Jul 27 2009 03:55 PM I can't see Omar surviving this. The next press conference will be 3:00 on Monday, August 3rd announcing his dismissal. Nymr83 Jul 27 2009 04:38 PM ="Kong76":2vyypmlu]I can't see Omar surviving this. The next press conference will be 3:00 on Monday, August 3rd announcing his dismissal.[/quote:2vyypmlu] I say he lasts until Thursday, August 13th... might as well fill the off-day with something to generate news. Kong76 Jul 27 2009 04:46 PM I didn't realize he has a full three more years after this under contract. Maybe they'll just fire Jerry on Monday at 3:00 if the Mets play poorly this weekend. This franchise is beyond bizzaro sometimes. metirish Jul 27 2009 05:00 PM Per SNY Jeff Wilpon and Minaya will speak to the press in the next few minutes metirish Jul 27 2009 05:41 PM Omar hummed and hawed about bringing up the Rubin issue in the wrong place , Gary Cohen said Minaya stands by what he said though. They also said Jeff Wilpon remarked that it is very common for press guys to ask his advice on how to get a job in baseball...with an organization that is. soupcan Jul 27 2009 07:14 PM ="metirish":1jyuugqc]Omar hummed and hawed...[/quote:1jyuugqc] That's being nice irish. Again, Omar sounded like an illiterate boob. He cannot speak! A Boy Named Seo Jul 27 2009 07:30 PM ="metirish":2ws987f9]You gotta hold a press conference for that?, issue a press release and get it over with.[/quote:2ws987f9] Bingo bango. You should lobby Jeff for a job. Talk shit about peeps to get it, if you have to. Edgy DC Jul 27 2009 07:44 PM Bobby Valenitne has a GM/manager hybrid job coming up. Fman99 Jul 27 2009 07:48 PM ="Edgy DC":3oad47yi]Bobby Valenitne has a GM/manager hybrid job coming up.[/quote:3oad47yi] He's got my vote. Konnichiwa Bobby! Methead Jul 27 2009 07:48 PM If Jeff Wilpon really gets a call per week from people looking for career advice, then he certainly won't mind if I call. metirish Jul 27 2009 07:49 PM ="soupcan":hfbbduwr]="metirish":hfbbduwr]Omar hummed and hawed...[/quote:hfbbduwr] That's being nice irish. Again, Omar sounded like an illiterate boob. He cannot speak![/quote:hfbbduwr] Minaya under stress sounds even worse than he usually does. PiggiesTomatoes Jul 27 2009 07:57 PM Thanks for the thread. I missed the clusterfuck and didn't realize Tony B. had been fired until seeing a crawl a couple innings ago. Very Knick-like. This crap has to end. Nymr83 Jul 27 2009 08:10 PM theres a method to minaya's madness... i'd normally turn this thing off after the final out, but now i want to see what jerry has to say when they ask him about the pre-game idiocy. Edgy DC Jul 27 2009 08:31 PM Omar needs a pile of wins to preserve himself, so look for the internet to fill with "All this winning is terrible" posts. Nymr83 Jul 27 2009 08:53 PM a pile of wins could stop the story from blowing up even further. Though you'd have to think the Daily News will be gunning for Omar until fired at this point, and the others will follow suit in a typical "i better write about what the other guy writes about" media orgy. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 27 2009 09:29 PM ="Methead"]If Jeff Wilpon really gets a call per week from people looking for career advice, then he certainly won't mind if I call. "Mr. Wilpon, I've been hemming and hawing between obstetrics and oncology..." "Kid, no matter what you choose, just make sure you stick with it, regardless of the results, or what your own instincts tell you, or what trusted friends tell you... you've got to stick with it until it's way past too late to change. Then, if you need to, you make a change. But not until it's WAAAAAAAAY too late. Got it?" LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 27 2009 09:31 PM ="Nymr83":gq5x8wjs]a pile of wins could stop the story from blowing up even further. Though you'd have to think the Daily News will be gunning for Omar until fired at this point, and the others will follow suit in a typical "i better write about what the other guy writes about" media orgy.[/quote:gq5x8wjs] Um... you think his staying on is at all tenable? Really? Nymr83 Jul 27 2009 10:15 PM i think its very hard to fire someone that you owe three more years of salary to and that the Wilpons could always fire him in September (steal a backpage when they're dying) if things dont blow over. themetfairy Jul 28 2009 06:31 AM Lisa Olson rules, as always[/url:3hh96qwk]. duan Jul 28 2009 06:38 AM Omar Minaya was way past a line throwing that out there unless he had something he was actually willing to stand over. Ashie62 Jul 28 2009 07:57 AM I guess Omar can't say Bernazard had a moment all to common to active alcoholics Rubin & Omar should have to spend the rest of their lives on an island for the remainder of there lives starting tomorrow.. Edgy DC Jul 28 2009 07:58 AM This is where I'm curious. Does this hurt the organization's standing with the team? Does it affect their play? Mets players stunned by strange day at Citi Tuesday, July 28, 2009 By KATIE STRANG caitlin.strang@newsday.com What began as a routine news conference to announce the dismissal of Mets executive Tony Bernazard took a bizarre turn Mondaywhen general manager Omar Minaya accused Daily News sportswriter Adam Rubin -- whose reporting played a role in Bernazard's firing -- of improper conduct. In the Mets' clubhouse, the players were just as stunned as viewers watching at home. "Absolutely," Mets catcher Brian Schneider said when asked if it were one of the most outlandish news conferences the players had ever seen. "Just like Adam didn't expect it, neither did we. It was just kind of quiet, because we were all listening." Carlos Delgado did not see the live broadcast but heard enough about it. "I'm surprised, but anything can happen here," Delgado said. "I wish I would've saw it. I don't want to say it's funny, because it's obviously not funny, it's a very sensitive situation, but maybe there was something out of line and needed to be addressed." Most players -- who were in disbelief in a clubhouse that became circus-like after the news conference -- believe the situation is something that needs to be worked out between Minaya and Rubin, but a couple of players circled the wagons to defend their boss. "If Rubin did what he did, if he asked for a job like Omar said he did, I think he should step out and say, 'Yeah, I did,' '' Carlos Beltran said. "I know Omar and he's an honest guy. I believe he's saying the truth." Gary Sheffield said he did not know what to make of the finger-pointing episode. "I don't know who's telling the truth. I don't know the reporter very well, but I believe Omar is a pretty credible guy," said Sheffield, who said at least a couple of players were laughing while watching the showdown unfold. David Wright said he heard the "rumblings" but had not yet heard the whole story. Said Wright, "You never know what to expect." Ashie62 Jul 28 2009 08:03 AM Little or no effect on team play..at least not with Wright, it seems like he could of cared less or was simply embarrassed possibly. Winning cures all. 4 in a row tonight Centerfield Jul 28 2009 08:47 AM The cynic in me wonders if the press conference was held (rather than a simple press release) specifically so Omar could (whether instructed or not) attack Rubin. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 28 2009 11:43 AM ="Centerfield"]The cynic in me wonders if the press conference was held (rather than a simple press release) specifically so Omar could (whether instructed or not) attack Rubin. Big WINNAH! Anything from row 1 or 2 for the WINNAH! metirish Jul 29 2009 09:29 AM Just for prosperities sake here is the Wilpon Q&A ] Today's Q & A with Jeff Wilpon Tuesday July 28, 2009 9:52 PM By David Lennon Opening apologies: �After what went on yesterday, I thought it was important on behalf of ownership to come out and talk to everybody. I know a lot of you have called and I apologize for not returning the calls and stuff, but you know we�re very sorry about what happened yesterday. It was the wrong forum, the wrong time, a wrong situation for Omar to express himself in that way.� �I have a call into Adam [Rubin] right now to apologize on behalf of myself, the organization, ownership and I know I�m going to ask him if he�ll accept a call from omar. Omar would very much like to call him and apologize for the venue that he took to embarrass him and talk to him in that manner and I�m hoping that Adam will accept that phone call, and I hope he accepts my phone call and the apology from the organization.� Is Minaya sorry? �Omar is extremely remorseful. Omar is upset about this. This has taken a toll on him in a very big way. I think he�s feeling the effects of what he did. He was angry. He was upset. A little bit about Tony, a little bit about some of the things that have been portrayed about the organization, trying to protect it.� �I think he really understands he made a very large mistake here and he�s apologized to ownership, he�s apologized to a bunch of the staff, he understands he put us in a bad spot here.� Did Rubin act inappropriately? �In terms of what Adam did with me, he did nothing wrong. Like I said last night, there are people that come to me all the time and want to know about the sports business, want to know about the real estate business, and what I try to do is be helpful to them in terms of putting them in touch with other people or having a conversation with them about what they might want to do with their career.� I did put Adam in touch with Curt Gowdy Jr. on the network side. I did put him in touch with [assistant GM] John Ricco on the baseball side, I didn�t think twice about it because it does happen a lot.� What is Minaya apologizing for? �Omar will have to address his comments. I know he�s told me he�s remorseful about what he said, and what was done, and I can only apologize from the organization standpoint. Omar made a mistake and he admitted to me that he made a mistake, and he�s apologetic for his mistake.� Minaya�s state of mind? �Omar�s around. As I said, he�s not in a great state right now, this has taken a great toll on him, and I think if you guys can give him a day or so, he�ll be back to Omar. And if we can all give him a chance, I think he�ll come back and make this organization proud.� Are you supporting him as GM? �Yeah. Omar�s our general manager. Omar�s going to be our general manager.� �He hasn�t been reprimanded. I think his remorse in what he�s shown is his sorrow for this and what he knows he did, the collateral damage it caused me, the collateral damage it caused my father, my uncle, the organization as a whole, he feels bad for. And I think that�s more punishment than anybody can ever put on him.� What damage did Monday�s fiasco do? �It hurt the organization. Omar admitted he hurt the organization, and he feels bad about that, and we�ll overcome it. It didn�t go to our values. He didn�t do the right thing. And all I can do is apologize for that and Omar will do that at the right time as well. We have to move on from there and rebuild ourselves. What was Fred Wilpon�s reaction? �Same as mine. He sort of couldn�t believe it was happening when it was happening. I don�t think a lot of us could believe it was happening when it was happening. He was just very angry and got out of his usual mode of dealing with the media and press conferences and stuff, and I think that is what you saw.� Did you know Minaya was going to attack Rubin? �Absolutely not. I didn�t have any knowledge, he didn�t talk to us about it. Omar had been upset with some of the things in the paper, I knew that. But going into this press conference yesterday was to talk about Tony, talk about the situation with Tony and why he was letting Tony go. It had nothing to do with Adam at the time he went into that conference.� Is Minaya still in hot water? �No. I think he knows what he did and I think he knows what the values we want to have here in our organization and he�s willing to deal with the consequences of it.� Did Minaya understand the impact of his accusations? �I think he does regret that. I think he has to answer that. I�m talking about what he said. The question was to me, and what I thought. Did I think Adam stepped over the line? I don�t believe that in terms of my dealings with Adam. Are you going to take a more visible role going forward? �The problem is it was Omar�s direct report that he was talking about, so for me to go in and do a press conference for Omar, for his direct report, that�s never happened before and I don�t think it should happen. Omar knows how to deal with the press and press conferences -- that�s his job. So I don�t think I would do it any differently.� Was Bernazard fired for performance or behavior? �I think our minor leagues � and I think Omar can talk to this better than I can � but he believes are minor leagues are in good shape. He spent a couple of days in Florida and was very happy with some of the A-ball kids. This thing with Tony hurt him, Omar, and it hurt me. I was very close with Tony and I learned a lot from him.� What�s the Mets� overall direction right now? �We need to do better. We need to do better. Ownership is not happy with the direction right now and obviously we have to play better on the field. We need to get the guys back. Once that happens, we�ll see how well this team can do. But it is disappointing, and I can understand the fans� disappointment as well.� Does Minaya�s future depend on the next two monts? Or is he the GM for 2010? Right now, the idea is that Omar is our general manager -- period. Do you need to become more visible? �Omar is the face of the organization when it comes to the overall direction. Jerry [Manuel] is our face of the organization when it comes to the day-to-day baseball. I�m here, believe me. I�ve got my finger on the pulse. You might not see me, but I�m here.� Has Minaya been compromised by his behavior? �I think he can get through it. I think right now it compromised him a little bit, yeah.� How is Minaya doing? �He�s really hurt by this guys. I don�t know how to explain it any better. He was visibly shaken yesterday. He was visibly shaken again today. I spent a good amount of time with him today. He�s still doing his job. He needs a day.� Edgy DC Jul 29 2009 10:09 AM ]Omar knows how to deal with the press and press conferences. That's kind of bogus. ]I�ve got my finger on the pulse. And that's kind of empty. Otherwise, good job by Jeff. Kong76 Jul 29 2009 10:33 AM I saw that whole Q & A with Jeffie and came away from it thinking he really ain't the dope that everyone on the internet makes him out to be. Not saying I particularly like him either, and I don't know all that much about him, but jeez alou for years and years he's just been hammered like a piece of crap. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2009 10:38 AM I think Jeff handled this the right way. He had to establish that Omar wasn't speaking for the organization, but that the organization realized it needed to apologize on his behalf, and that doing that kinda stuff puts people's jobs in jeopardy. dgwphotography Jul 29 2009 10:55 AM I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head... metsguyinmichigan Jul 29 2009 11:58 AM If Jeff wearing a wig, or is there really a barber that charges for a haircut that bad? Edgy DC Jul 29 2009 12:00 PM It's something I've long wanted to ask in a chat with one of the beat guys. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2009 12:11 PM ="dgwphotography":3vlw8t9c]I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head...[/quote:3vlw8t9c] What was that? metirish Jul 29 2009 12:17 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2garmnt0]="dgwphotography":2garmnt0]I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head...[/quote:2garmnt0] What was that?[/quote:2garmnt0] No idea what you said that is stuck in Dgw's head but the quote I remember from JCL about Jeff is " Jeff is the guy that gives millionaires a bad name " , this after Jeff sniffed something about diversifying his portfolio in the wake of the Madoff scandal. dgwphotography Jul 29 2009 02:52 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":20sad8fv]="dgwphotography":20sad8fv]I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head...[/quote:20sad8fv] What was that?[/quote:20sad8fv] Your Marty Noble quote. Frayed Knot Jul 29 2009 02:58 PM Eddie C's speculation on what set Omar on the road to anti-Runin-ism: When the press conference got delayed (as it always seems to be) SNY had some time to kill and spent part of it with Burkhardt interviewing Rubin. This was shown on the TVs in both the offices and clubhouse and apparently some thought they heard some gloating in his answers at having "gotten" Tony. Ergo that ticks Omar off and leads to the impromptu verbal caning. dgwphotography Jul 29 2009 03:00 PM I didn't see that. If he was indeed gloating, that would take him down a few pegs in my eyes. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 29 2009 03:05 PM Didn't see it, either. But, well, let's just say you can't add false modesty to his list of sins (following is from his rebuttal in yesterday's Snooze): ]I want to get something straight. Everything I wrote about Tony Bernazard - bombshell stories that appeared in the pages of the Daily News over the last week - is accurate. My reporting was solid, met the journalistic standards of sourcing and beyond and was untainted by any personal agenda on my part. The Mets fired Bernazard Monday, after conducting an investigation that presumably reflected the damning information contained in my stories. Frayed Knot Jul 29 2009 03:11 PM And Eddie admits to not having seen it either, but rather got that idea via some of those who had both seen it and liked Tony meaning that the perception of Rubin's attitude was filtered through those eyes & ears. G-Fafif Jul 29 2009 03:12 PM ="Frayed Knot"]Eddie C's speculation on what set Omar on the road to anti-Runin-ism: When the press conference got delayed (as it always seems to be) SNY had some time to kill and spent part of it with Burkhardt interviewing Rubin. This was shown on the TVs in both the offices and clubhouse and apparently some thought they heard some gloating in his answers at having "gotten" Tony. Ergo that ticks Omar off and leads to the impromptu verbal caning. Somehow I'm reminded of Oscar Madison hiring a jokewriter to come up with zingers to spring on Howard Cosell...and Felix tearing them up, rescuing them from the wastebasket and delivering them out of order. ]I wish some relative of yours would die and leave you some wax fruit! I'd like to see Evel Knievel jump over your Bermuda shorts! You know your Lautrec is too loose? bmfc1 Jul 29 2009 03:55 PM ="Frayed Knot":ugqsyia0]Eddie C's speculation on what set Omar on the road to anti-Runin-ism: When the press conference got delayed (as it always seems to be) SNY had some time to kill and spent part of it with Burkhardt interviewing Rubin. This was shown on the TVs in both the offices and clubhouse and apparently some thought they heard some gloating in his answers at having "gotten" Tony. Ergo that ticks Omar off and leads to the impromptu verbal caning.[/quote:ugqsyia0] Had to have been whispered to Eddie C. from within the organization in a lame attempt to cover Omar's tracks. Edgy DC Jul 29 2009 05:08 PM I'm going to guess no. bmfc1 Jul 29 2009 05:39 PM Coleman isn't an investigative reporter. He didn't come up with that on his own. Frayed Knot Jul 29 2009 05:46 PM ="bmfc1":331y6747]Coleman isn't an investigative reporter. He didn't come up with that on his own.[/quote:331y6747] Eddie may not be a turn over every rock kind of reporter but he is in the locker room talking to people on a regular basis and at least implied (both in writing and in the radio chat I heard) that it was his speculation based on what some said that that was what set Omar off. Plus if mgmt is the one feeding him that angle I don't see how they think that makes them look any better. bmfc1 Jul 29 2009 05:48 PM Fair enough FK--you heard it, I didn't. I was just suggesting that it's possible that someone in the Mets front office was still trying to cover Omar's tracks. After the other day, anything is possible. Kong76 Jul 29 2009 06:21 PM This whole saga just needs to go away already. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2009 07:17 PM ="G-Fafif":ti9im9j6][ Somehow I'm reminded of Oscar Madison hiring a jokewriter to come up with zingers to spring on Howard Cosell...and Felix tearing them up, rescuing them from the wastebasket and delivering them out of order. [/quote:ti9im9j6] Omar should have called Rubin an inane drone. Rockin' Doc Jul 29 2009 07:37 PM Omar should have called Rubin an assclown. Fman99 Jul 29 2009 07:48 PM Punch -> neck Kick -> **** metirish Jul 30 2009 12:14 PM referring to himself in the third person Minaya apologized today NY Mets general manager Omar Minaya apologizes for causing 'distraction' by criticizing reporter by Brian Costa/The Star-Ledger Thursday July 30, 2009, 11:26 AM ] NEW YORK -- Mets general manager Omar Minaya apologized again Thursday for his conduct during Monday's press conference to announce the firing of Tony Bernazard, during which he got into a heated exchange with a reporter. Minaya said he met with New York Daily News reporter Adam Rubin to apologize in person Wednesday. "You guys know me," Minaya said. "That's just not the way Omar Minaya is, that's not what I stand for, but the bottom line is I made a mistake. The bottom line is that you make a mistake, and I admit to making a mistake in bringing up the things that I did." Sitting in the Mets' dugout before Thursday's doubleheader against the Rockies at Citi Field, Minaya said the fallout from Monday has been a distraction as Friday's non-waiver trade deadline approaches. But he said it hasn't kept him from being active in trade talks. "I've been talking to teams, guys," Minaya said. "I turned down a couple of trades yesterday. I mean, I talked to some teams and believe it or not we had some pretty big names that were presented. That being said, if you talk to general managers around the league, I've been calling around. We have some ideas."

Is he drunk or is that just the way he talks all the time? I guess he's under a lot of stress... I'd probably need a few drinks too. I remember reading interviews where he brags about how it's going to be so easy to flip the Gretzky house and make a quick $8 million... with that in mind it doesn't seem like he was paying close attention to the details of any mortgage(s) he signed. Watching that video, it's tough to imagine anyone feeling confident doing business with Lenny.

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] His career slugging percentage is lower than Jay Payton's... hell, it's lower than Juan Uribe's. That line - that single line - just gave me an ulcer.

BOOOO-URNS

Votto's close to getting a middle name that starts with F

Can't believe I have to root for Francoueuer now. We're going from a player management didn't like to a player fans won't want to like.

Yeah, it's funny, but I remember where I was when that happened too. I was on vacation on Cape Cod, listening on the radio as I pulled into the parking lot of the driving range. Luckily the game ended right then, otherwise I would have sat in the car until it ended. And yes, I have had decent luck picking up WFAN on the Cape. Only in a car stereo though.

Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!

Yeah... but I figured those teams might have rosters figured out at this point. I guess not.

I know this kid was in the Instructional League over the winter, but I can't seem to figure out where he was sent after that.