True, but why not have an 84-85 as well with a little splash with Hojo and getting a big gift in Carter before the holidays even started! BTW, the 85-86 one also was quite pedestrian. Granted we really didn't have a need for a big name the way certain media members and fans seem to think we do now, but did Bob Ojeda and Tim Teufel really wet your whistle in terms of heading into 1986? Oh wow! A lefty to augment the staff, great! Hey Wally really ought to have a decent platoon partner! Yes the returning team was the whistle wetter heading into the 86 season, but still, sometimes the best offseason moves aren't the big deals. Conversley though, I would like a move for a Zito as it would help the team in the long run, but not because I want to "win the offseason" Gee that sounds like a term a Yankee fan would use! Or maybe a Yankee owner = FWIW, Klesko has Giambi written all over him, and not in the productive ex-roider who may still be on roids way