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HOF Baseball writer Jack Lang. Many Met ties as a long time beat reporter and wrote the 25th Anniversary Retrospective book Also as a treasurer with the BBWAA he had the duty to call the newly elected Hall of Famers every winter.

metirish wrote: Wally will probably write how the Mets stiffed Willie.... Actually Wally and Michael Kay (who spent his entire first hour on this) will probably be congratulating themselves as the "reason" for the Mets "doing the right thing"

.... Chase Utley gets a nice 7 year, 85 mil extention with the Phillies Ryan Howard's payday is fast approaching!

Edgy DC wrote: I didn't claim it's a trend. I said it, in itself, speaks well. Please take what I say for what I say. ]Like I said, if the kid was just as talented in lacrosse as he is in baseball and enticed by the Major Indor LAX league (or whatever pro-LAX league is out there) it doesn't speak for the health of said pro-LAX league. In the same sense that increased revenues and profits doesn't speak for the health of the league? Of course it does. It's not the last word, but of course it does. I have no interest in indulging the speculative argument about the player fleeing racial discrimination. Fair enough

Plus, no one is coming out and saying it, but I wonder how much "reverse racism" has to do with Samardzija's decision. Granted there are white wide receivers out there, but many are put into pigeonhole type of situations or treated more of a "gutsy grinder" and generally aren't considered "first option wide outs" and he probably was told by "his people" that he had a much better chance at "superstardom" if he pursued pitching as opposed to the NFL. Though considering Sweet Lou's philosophy about pitching is the same as Dallas Baker (that was intentional) not sure if the Cub organization was the right place to go!

Edgy DC wrote: ]Did 1993 Heisman Trophy winner Charlie Ward's decision to sign with the Knicks speak well for the NBA? Of course it did. Creeps, Steve, you yourself argued that part of the deathknell for baseball can be heard in people choosing other sports. Now somebody --- an educated uncompromised individual --- chooses baseball (as a fifth round draft choice, when he looked like a first-rounder, if I understand it, for the NFL), and it's irrelevant? That was a reference to a movement, (urban youths trending towards NBA and NFL) not a singular example. Like I said, if the kid was just as talented in lacrosse as he is in baseball and enticed by the Major Indor LAX league (or whatever pro-LAX league is out there) it doesn't speak for the health of said pro-LAX league

HOLY SCHNIKIES that image looked smaller in my browser's image viewer. BTW, I know they were just doing it as an example piece, but could they have given all the teams with 5 retired a different uni number? Very strange seeing MFY 5 even though it will never be manufactured unless someone gets it customized or something

Looks like pullovers are back! For Spring Traning/BP anyway

Also a member of the Met family ] Ruhle passes away from cancer Reds coach pitched 13 years in Majors with four teams By Mark Sheldon / MLB.com CINCINNATI -- Former Reds pitching coach Vern Ruhle, who missed the 2006 season while being treated for cancer, lost his battle and died on Saturday night. Ruhle was five days shy of his 56th birthday. The former Major League pitcher passed away at the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston of complications from a donor stem cell transplant for the treatment of multiple myeloma. Funeral arrangements are incomplete. Ruhle is survived by his wife, Sue, daughter, Rebecca, and son, Kenny. "The baseball and Cincinnati Reds families mourn the loss of an excellent coach, wonderful husband and loving father," the club said in a statement. "In his 35 years in professional and collegiate baseball, Vern touched many people inside and outside the game. We are privileged to have been a part of his life. He will be missed." Ruhle pitched for the Tigers, Astros, Indians and Angels from 1974-86 and was 67-88 with a 3.73 ERA. From 1997-2003, he was a pitching coach for the Astros, Phillies and Mets, and he joined the Reds organization in 2004 as a pitching coach with rookie level Billings. Ruhle was promoted to Minor League pitching coordinator before the 2005 season, and he became the Reds' big-league pitching coach when Don Gullett was dismissed that June. For the 2007 season, Ruhle had been reassigned to work as the organization's pitching rehabilitation coordinator at its Minor League complex in Sarasota, Fla. Last February, doctors discovered Ruhle had cancer after he underwent his annual physical at the start of Spring Training. He spent the summer splitting time between his home in Sarasota and the hospital in Houston, while bullpen coach Tom Hume assumed pitching coach duties on an interim basis. In August, Ruhle was able to rejoin the club for some home games after he was informed by doctors during a checkup that he was showing improvement. "It's been a fun day," Ruhle said on Aug. 18 at Great American Ball Park. "There's been a lot of smiles and visiting with the different players. A few last year and some even this year that have known about what I've gone through have given big hugs and [said], 'Great to see you' and so on." While spending three months confined to his hospital room for treatment, it was baseball that helped keep Ruhle upbeat. He monitored games over the Internet and on television, and he regularly received phone calls and e-mails from the coaching staff, especially Hume. "[baseball] was something that really helped me throughout the summer in the healing process," Ruhle said. "I always had something to talk about that was very neutral in the eyes of the doctors, the nurses and the visitors. We could always talk about something other than my medical aspect of what's going on and what was and wasn't working."

="Edgy DC"]SteveJRogers wrote: ="Edgy DC"]An athlete with the opportunity to choose between two major sports chose MLB, and that speaks well of baseball.] It would be the same if he choose a chance to play on the PGA as opposed to the NFL What would be the same? The decision to go with something that would be A) just as lucrative (if he had the same talent as a collegite golfer as opposed to a baseball pitcher) and just as safe (and safer than baseball actually) than the NFL. More about just someone making a personal choice than speaking well of a sport. Did 1993 Heisman Trophy winner Charlie Ward's decision to sign with the Knicks speak well for the NBA? SteveJRogers wrote: Or even if a Major Indoor Lacrosse League (if it still exists) franchise offered him the same contract that the Cubs put on the table No Steve, you are steeped in wrongness. No, it's the SAME EXACT thing. The kid just chose one activity over another. Hell if he had the same opportunity to to join the NY Times would that speak well for newspappers? No because the print media is actually a dying entiy in today's society. Or pick any troubled Fortune 500 company. metsmarathon Jan 21 2007 11:15 AM the point is, partly, that those troubled entities cannot afford to give out such contracts, while baseball can. Edgy DC Jan 21 2007 01:52 PM ]Did 1993 Heisman Trophy winner Charlie Ward's decision to sign with the Knicks speak well for the NBA? Of course it did. Creeps, Steve, you yourself argued that part of the deathknell for baseball can be heard in people choosing other sports. Now somebody --- an educated uncompromised individual --- chooses baseball (as a fifth round draft choice, when he looked like a first-rounder, if I understand it, for the NFL), and it's irrelevant? SteveJRogers Jan 21 2007 02:29 PM Edgy DC wrote: ]Did 1993 Heisman Trophy winner Charlie Ward's decision to sign with the Knicks speak well for the NBA? Of course it did. Creeps, Steve, you yourself argued that part of the deathknell for baseball can be heard in people choosing other sports. Now somebody --- an educated uncompromised individual --- chooses baseball (as a fifth round draft choice, when he looked like a first-rounder, if I understand it, for the NFL), and it's irrelevant? That was a reference to a movement, (urban youths trending towards NBA and NFL) not a singular example. Like I said, if the kid was just as talented in lacrosse as he is in baseball and enticed by the Major Indor LAX league (or whatever pro-LAX league is out there) it doesn't speak for the health of said pro-LAX league cooby Jan 21 2007 02:49 PM Must...stop....reading...this thread.... dinosaur jesus Jan 21 2007 02:52 PM One player opts for baseball. Not exactly a trend. The big advantage that football has--regardless of which sport is more popular--is that if you're drafted in the high rounds, you're usually on the team right away, rather than having to take your chances working through the minors. It's hard to compete with that. SteveJRogers Jan 21 2007 02:56 PM Plus, no one is coming out and saying it, but I wonder how much "reverse racism" has to do with Samardzija's decision. Granted there are white wide receivers out there, but many are put into pigeonhole type of situations or treated more of a "gutsy grinder" and generally aren't considered "first option wide outs" and he probably was told by "his people" that he had a much better chance at "superstardom" if he pursued pitching as opposed to the NFL. Though considering Sweet Lou's philosophy about pitching is the same as Dallas Baker (that was intentional) not sure if the Cub organization was the right place to go! Edgy DC Jan 21 2007 03:52 PM I didn't claim it's a trend. I said it, in itself, speaks well. Please take what I say for what I say. ]Like I said, if the kid was just as talented in lacrosse as he is in baseball and enticed by the Major Indor LAX league (or whatever pro-LAX league is out there) it doesn't speak for the health of said pro-LAX league. In the same sense that increased revenues and profits doesn't speak for the health of the league? Of course it does. It's not the last word, but of course it does. I have no interest in indulging the speculative argument about the player fleeing racial discrimination. SteveJRogers Jan 21 2007 04:27 PM Edgy DC wrote: I didn't claim it's a trend. I said it, in itself, speaks well. Please take what I say for what I say. ]Like I said, if the kid was just as talented in lacrosse as he is in baseball and enticed by the Major Indor LAX league (or whatever pro-LAX league is out there) it doesn't speak for the health of said pro-LAX league. In the same sense that increased revenues and profits doesn't speak for the health of the league? Of course it does. It's not the last word, but of course it does. I have no interest in indulging the speculative argument about the player fleeing racial discrimination. Fair enough SteveJRogers Jan 21 2007 04:32 PM .... Chase Utley gets a nice 7 year, 85 mil extention with the Phillies Ryan Howard's payday is fast approaching! Yancy Street Gang Jan 21 2007 05:22 PM Oh well. I was hoping the Mets would be able to Poach Utley in a couple of years. smg58 Jan 21 2007 06:33 PM You're going to see fewer and fewer high-profile young guys hit the open market. The benefits generally outweigh the risks for both sides. DocTee Jan 21 2007 06:35 PM Can this be true? If so, the Cubs are the most generous team in sports. http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070121&content_id=1783591&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb Among the items being given away on the 2007 promotions calendar are iPod nanos, Lou Piniella bobblehead dolls, Andre Dawson road jerseys, bears from the "Build-A-Bear Workshop," and Ryne Sandberg No. 23 player caps. ... The "Race to Wrigley" 5-K run will be held March 31. dinosaur jesus Jan 21 2007 08:26 PM That's not a Lou Piniella bobblehead. That's what his head always looks like. cleonjones11 Jan 21 2007 11:23 PM Wasn't Charlie Ward billed as the best QB in NY when he was a Knick? It's not my money we we spend on whoever but it will probably cost 75 bucks just to walk into this new Met ballpark The Sports/Industrial complex...no healthcare for all iramets Jan 22 2007 08:13 AM Yancy Street Gang wrote: Oh well. I was hoping the Mets would be able to Poach Utley in a couple of years. Oh, they can. All that has to happen is for him to have three or four off-years in a row, and then the Mets will pick up the remainder of his high-priced, no-performance contract that they'll try to sell to the fan base as "Hey, this is CHASE UTLEY! Don't you remember how he used to kill us way back when? Well, we've got him--it's the same guy--and only 12 million per year, too! Yay on us!" Yancy Street Gang Jan 22 2007 09:04 AM Sounds like a plan! Rockin' Doc Jan 22 2007 12:49 PM Finally, we've been shown the plan. Quick, somebody call ambler. smg58 Jan 22 2007 02:08 PM iramets wrote: Oh, they can. All that has to happen is for him to have three or four off-years in a row, Well hey, if that happens the Phillies don't come within ten games of us the rest of the decade! I like it already! MFS62 Jan 23 2007 11:37 AM From today's NY Post: Today in Venezuela, the Mets will see Victor Zambrano throw for the second time, according to agent Peter Greenberg. The Mets are one of five or six teams, according to Greenberg, who are interested in Zambrano and the pitcher - who had Tommy John surgery last May 15 - could possibly have a decision later this week. Johnny Dickshot Jan 23 2007 11:50 AM We need to re-sign VZ to keep the Tim Bogar Trade Chain alive. That, or root for that minor-league ctacher we received for Victor Diaz.

="Gwreck"] The Mets send me down here, it's not even Mardi Gras yet and I have to do this apperance with this nutra...whatever the hell this rodent is supposed to be! WHERE IS MY AGENT?

Edgy DC wrote: An athlete with the opportunity to choose between two major sports chose MLB, and that speaks well of baseball. It would be the same if he choose a chance to play on the PGA as opposed to the NFL Or even if a Major Indoor Lacrosse League (if it still exists) franchise offered him the same contract that the Cubs put on the table Same difference, you can't chalk it up to the health of the sport he chose, though he clearly was thinking about his own health! =

Opinion: Even considering the rate of inflation ticket prices today are sky high, though still the most affordable of the four major sports. Fact: Last season was the first time since 1979 that all televised Met games were done by the same crew

Fair enough Fact: There are more books and tribute card sets out there on the 1969 Mets than any other squad in team history, with the 1962 Mets behind them.

Opinion: Thanks to Interleague this is no longer possible, even if it means David Ortiz 14 or so times at 1st! Fact: There is probably more stuff available (card sets, postcards, books, ect) about the 1969 Mets than any other Met squad, with that 1962 one coming a close second

DOWN GOES BANNISTER! DOWN GOES BANNISTER!

No clue when his episode will air, but Darryl Strawberry shows up this season on Spike TV's "Pros vs Joes" http://www.spiketv.com/#shows/prosvsjoes2/index.jhtml which pits ex-pros vs those who were "Good enough to dream, but still bitching about whatever reason they never made it"

Those were made by TCMA and were the semi-official postcards of the Mets for a couple of years in the mid-80's. Later years they were done by a fellow named Barry Colla and now actually are done by the Mets, and given away at some function they do for the Starlight Children's Foundation. Anyway, those TCMAs were not given away at Shea, but advertized through Met publications and such, essentially send-a-ways. These days the sets will pop up at card shows and the like, the set isn't rare by any stretch. Distinguishing feature of the 1986 set of course is a very blue rendering of the 25th Anniversary logo on the back of all of the cards.

Opinion: Tim Teufel may have been the happiest of all Mets when Bill Buckner essentially let him off the hook in Game 6 Fact: Tug McGraw's son married a woman who's first name is essentially a one word description of Ya Gotta Believe

Okay, I've been proven wrong by a 1991 20 game winner and consistant member of the Twins and Orioles staff during the 1990's, Scott Erickson also with 2 Metly games. Rick Baldwin is on the clock...

Kind of an old school looking image on this UD Rookie card. Guy made an All Star Game in 2000 and won, Al Leiter got the loss in that one Off the top of my head he has to be the Met with the most notoriety as a MLBer, with the least amount of games played as a Met (not counting all those who never ending up playing a game for the Mets). At least pitching wise, as I just remember Gary Matthews Jr. also logged in 2 games as a Met

OH, you mean the 1976 Met Billy Baldwin... Now THAT is a pretty good Fro. Not on the Oscar Gamble level, but certaintly up there.