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Are we sure that’s the case? Brittany Ghiroli of The Athletic had an article today saying that DeRosa used the “B” lineup in the game against Italy (Cal Raleigh, Bryce Harper, Alex Bregman, Brice Turang all sat) and even had Clayton Kershaw warming in the pen (instead of Mason Miller) in a key spot. She noted there was social media speculation that maybe DeRosa figured out the issue during the game (and which is why Miller eventually got up and entered the game).

[th]Franchise Rank[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Other Franchise WAR[/th][th]Mets WAR[/th][td]1[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]Mays[/td][td]154.6[/td][td]1.6[/td][td]1[/td][td]Nationals[/td][td]Carter[/td][td]55.8[/td][td]11.4[/td][td]2[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]Henderson[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]1.3[/td][td]2[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]Appier[/td][td]47.1[/td][td]3.5[/td][td]3[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]Fregosi[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]1.6[/td][td]3[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]Bautista[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]1.2[/td][td]3[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]Spahn[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]0.0[/td][td]4[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]Snider[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]1.2[/td][td]4[/td][td]Marlins[/td][td]Castillo[/td][td]22.4[/td][td]2.9[/td][td]4[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]Murray[/td][td]56.6[/td][td]2.8[/td][td]6[/td][td]Cardinals[/td][td]Boyer[/td][td]58.1[/td][td]3.6[/td][td]7[/td][td]Yankees[/td][td]Berra[/td][td]59.7[/td][td]-0.1[/td][td]8[/td][td]Padres[/td][td][/td][td]20.4[/td][td]-0.2[/td][td]8[/td][td]Red Sox[/td][td]Martinez[/td][td]53.8[/td][td]8.1[/td][td]9[/td][td]Mariners[/td][td]Cano[/td][td]23.9[/td][td]1.4[/td][td]9[/td][td]Tigers[/td][td]Verlander[/td][td]56.6[/td][td]2.1[/td][td]10[/td][td]Phillies[/td][td][/td][td]47.2[/td][td]-0.5[/td][td]10[/td][td]Rangers[/td][td][/td][td]31.2[/td][td]1.2[/td][td]13[/td][td]Pirates[/td][td][/td][td]42.3[/td][td]-0.5[/td][td]13[/td][td]White Sox[/td][td]Ventura[/td][td]39.4[/td][td]11[/td][td]15[/td][td]Brewers[/td][td][/td][td]19[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]16[/td][td]Diamondbacks[/td][td][/td][td]14.3[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]17[/td][td]Reds[/td][td]Foster[/td][td]39.5[/td][td]4.7[/td][td]17[/td][td]Twins[/td][td]Santana[/td][td]36.1[/td][td]15.3[/td][td]18[/td][td]Astros[/td][td]Scott (with hitting factored in)[/td][td]23.8[/td][td]-0.7[/td][td]18[/td][td]Astros[/td][td]Ryan (if measuring just the pitching)[/td][td]23.4[/td][td]3.0[/td][td]21[/td][td]Rays[/td][td][/td][td]10.5[/td][td]-0.7[/td][td]21[/td][td]Rockies[/td][td][/td][td]11.8[/td][td]0.8[/td][td]36[/td][td]Guardians[/td][td]Lindor[/td][td]28.3[/td][td]27.3[/td][td]57[/td][td]Cubs[/td][td][/td][td]21.8[/td][td]1.7[/td] Incorrect: Candelaria (#19, Pirates) Wheeler (#24, Phillies) Dykstra (#33, Phillies) Bowa (#36, Phillies) Bass (#36, Astros) Samuel (>#75, Phillies) Hickman (>#75, Cubs) Dunston (>#75, Cubs) Bay (>#75, Pirates) Kazmir (not a Met in the major leagues, #10, Rays)

Interesting! The Baseball-Reference team index page for Houston (https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/) has a “Top 24 players” section with Mike Scott at #18, 23.8 WAR and Nolan Ryan at #20, 23.4 WAR. That’s where the Scott answer was picked from; the “24.8” in the chart must have been a typo. The Baseball-Reference leaders page for Astros pitchers, (https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/leaders_pitch_50.shtml) has Ryan at 25.4 pitching WAR, Scott at 24.8. Scott had -1.0 WAR as a Houston batter and Ryan had -2.0 WAR as a Houston batter, which was factored in for the overall team rankings.

Dunston, Bass, Bowa, Candelaria, Kazmir, and Ryan are all incorrect. Kazmir would have been a correct answer (he’s #10 on the Rays’ leaderboard) but he never reached the majors with the Mets.

[th]Franchise Rank[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Other Franchise WAR[/th][th]Mets WAR[/th][td]1[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]Mays[/td][td]154.6[/td][td]1.6[/td][td]1[/td][td]Nationals[/td][td]Carter[/td][td]55.8[/td][td]11.4[/td][td]2[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]Henderson[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]1.3[/td][td]2[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]Appier[/td][td]47.1[/td][td]3.5[/td][td]3[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]Fregosi[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]1.6[/td][td]3[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]Bautista[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]1.2[/td][td]3[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]Spahn[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]0.0[/td][td]4[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]Snider[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]1.2[/td][td]4[/td][td]Marlins[/td][td]Castillo[/td][td]22.4[/td][td]2.9[/td][td]4[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]Murray[/td][td]56.6[/td][td]2.8[/td][td]6[/td][td]Cardinals[/td][td]Boyer[/td][td]58.1[/td][td]3.6[/td][td]7[/td][td]Phillies[/td][td][/td][td]47.2[/td][td]-0.5[/td][td]7[/td][td]Yankees[/td][td]Berra[/td][td]59.7[/td][td]-0.1[/td][td]8[/td][td]Padres[/td][td][/td][td]20.4[/td][td]-0.2[/td][td]8[/td][td]Red Sox[/td][td]Martinez[/td][td]53.8[/td][td]8.1[/td][td]9[/td][td]Mariners[/td][td]Cano[/td][td]23.9[/td][td]1.4[/td][td]9[/td][td]Tigers[/td][td]Verlander[/td][td]56.6[/td][td]2.1[/td][td]10[/td][td]Rangers[/td][td][/td][td]31.2[/td][td]1.2[/td][td]13[/td][td]Pirates[/td][td][/td][td]42.3[/td][td]-0.5[/td][td]13[/td][td]White Sox[/td][td]Ventura[/td][td]39.4[/td][td]11[/td][td]15[/td][td]Brewers[/td][td][/td][td]19[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]16[/td][td]Diamondbacks[/td][td][/td][td]14.3[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]17[/td][td]Reds[/td][td][/td][td]39.5[/td][td]4.7[/td][td]17[/td][td]Twins[/td][td]Santana[/td][td]36.1[/td][td]15.3[/td][td]18[/td][td]Astros[/td][td][/td][td]24.8[/td][td]-0.7[/td][td]21[/td][td]Rays[/td][td][/td][td]10.5[/td][td]-0.7[/td][td]21[/td][td]Rockies[/td][td][/td][td]11.8[/td][td]0.8[/td][td]36[/td][td]Guardians[/td][td]Lindor[/td][td]28.3[/td][td]27.3[/td][td]57[/td][td]Cubs[/td][td][/td][td]21.8[/td][td]1.7[/td] Incorrect: Wheeler Samuel Dykstra Bowa

Lots of fun with the last quiz, so adding in here its harder cousin. Can you name the highest entry on each franchise’s WAR leaderboard to have also played for the Mets? Example: Yogi Berra has the most WAR as a Yankee (#7 on that franchise list) of any player who was also a Met. What makes this hard is that all the easy/obvious answers came out in the earlier quiz: [th]Franchise Rank[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Other Franchise WAR[/th][th]Mets WAR[/th][td]1[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]Mays[/td][td]154.6[/td][td]1.6[/td][td]1[/td][td]Nationals[/td][td]Carter[/td][td]55.8[/td][td]11.4[/td][td]2[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]Henderson[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]1.3[/td][td]2[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]Appier[/td][td]47.1[/td][td]3.5[/td][td]3[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]Fregosi[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]1.6[/td][td]3[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]Bautista[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]1.2[/td][td]3[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]Spahn[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]0.0[/td][td]4[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]Snider[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]1.2[/td][td]4[/td][td]Marlins[/td][td]Castillo[/td][td]22.4[/td][td]2.9[/td][td]4[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]Murray[/td][td]56.6[/td][td]2.8[/td][td]6[/td][td]Cardinals[/td][td]Boyer[/td][td]58.1[/td][td]3.6[/td][td]7[/td][td]Phillies[/td][td][/td][td]47.2[/td][td]-0.5[/td][td]7[/td][td]Yankees[/td][td]Berra[/td][td]59.7[/td][td]-0.1[/td][td]8[/td][td]Padres[/td][td][/td][td]20.4[/td][td]-0.2[/td][td]8[/td][td]Red Sox[/td][td]Martinez[/td][td]53.8[/td][td]8.1[/td][td]9[/td][td]Mariners[/td][td]Cano[/td][td]23.9[/td][td]1.4[/td][td]9[/td][td]Tigers[/td][td]Verlander[/td][td]56.6[/td][td]2.1[/td][td]10[/td][td]Rangers[/td][td][/td][td]31.2[/td][td]1.2[/td][td]13[/td][td]Pirates[/td][td][/td][td]42.3[/td][td]-0.5[/td][td]13[/td][td]White Sox[/td][td]Ventura[/td][td]39.4[/td][td]11[/td][td]15[/td][td]Brewers[/td][td][/td][td]19[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]16[/td][td]Diamondbacks[/td][td][/td][td]14.3[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]17[/td][td]Reds[/td][td][/td][td]39.5[/td][td]4.7[/td][td]17[/td][td]Twins[/td][td]Santana[/td][td]36.1[/td][td]15.3[/td][td]18[/td][td]Astros[/td][td][/td][td]24.8[/td][td]-0.7[/td][td]21[/td][td]Rays[/td][td][/td][td]10.5[/td][td]-0.7[/td][td]21[/td][td]Rockies[/td][td][/td][td]11.8[/td][td]0.8[/td][td]36[/td][td]Guardians[/td][td][/td][td]28.3[/td][td]27.3[/td][td]57[/td][td]Cubs[/td][td][/td][td]21.8[/td][td]1.7[/td]

Feels like these are two separate questions. Diaz’s absence is still the biggest head-scratcher because there was no good reason to not re-sign him. Everyone else’s absence I can reconcile with a plan to win except Diaz. The “Metliest” absence is easily Pete. Nimmo in second place but Pete both was a constant presence for 7 seasons AND owns significant Mets records.

That’s our list, please collect your fabulous prizes on the way out. [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td]Kevin Appier[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]2[/td][td]47.1[/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td]Luis Castillo[/td][td]Marlins[/td][td]4[/td][td]22.4[/td] Not on the list: Boyer, #6 for the Cardinals Ashburn, #7 for the Phillies Berra, #7 for the Yankees Martinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals) Glavine, #9 for the Braves Cano, #9 for the Mariners (also #21 for the Yankees) Verlander, #9 for the Tigers (also #22 for the Astros) Randy Jones, #11 for the Padres Soto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres) Conine, #16 for the Marlins Sheffield, #17 for the Marlins Santana, #17 for the Twins Piazza, #28 for the Dodgers Kent, #31 for the Giants R. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres) Could’ve Appeared Multiple Times on a Long List: Ryan is also #20 for the Astros and #30 for the Rangers Rickey is also #38 for the Yankees Scherzer is also #42 for the Tigers

Hit us with it.

[th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td]Luis Castillo[/td][td]Marlins[/td][td]4[/td][td]22.4[/td] Not on the list: Boyer, #6 for the Cardinals Ashburn, #7 for the Phillies Berra, #7 for the Yankees Martinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals) Glavine, #9 for the Braves Cano, #9 for the Mariners (also #21 for the Yankees) Verlander, #9 for the Tigers (also #22 for the Astros) Randy Jones, #11 for the Padres Soto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres) Conine, #16 for the Marlins Sheffield, #17 for the Marlins Santana, #17 for the Twins Piazza, #28 for the Dodgers Kent, #31 for the Giants R. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres) Could’ve Appeared Multiple Times on a Long List: Ryan is also #20 for the Astros and #30 for the Rangers Rickey is also #38 for the Yankees Scherzer is also #42 for the Tigers

Rusty is #23 for the Expos (and #49 for the Astros).

[th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td]Luis Castillo[/td][td]Marlins[/td][td]4[/td][td]22.4[/td] Not on the list: Ashburn, #7 for the Phillies Berra, #7 for the Yankees Martinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals) Glavine, #9 for the Braves Cano, #9 for the Mariners (also #21 for the Yankees) Verlander, #9 for the Tigers (also #22 for the Astros) Soto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres) Conine, #16 for the Marlins Sheffield, #17 for the Marlins Piazza, #28 for the Dodgers Kent, #31 for the Giants R. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres) Could’ve Appeared Multiple Times on a Long List: Ryan is also #20 for the Astros and #30 for the Rangers Rickey is also #38 for the Yankees Scherzer is also #42 for the Tigers

[th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list: Ashburn, #7 for the Phillies Berra, #7 for the Yankees Martinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals) Glavine, #9 for the Braves Cano, #9 for the Mariners (also #21 for the Yankees) Verlander, #9 for the Tigers (also #22 for the Astros) Soto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres) Conine, #16 for the Marlins Sheffield, #17 for the Marlins Piazza, #28 for the Dodgers Kent, #31 for the Giants R. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres) Could’ve Appeared Multiple Times on a Long List: Ryan is also #20 for the Astros and #30 for the Rangers Rickey is also #38 for the Yankees Scherzer is also #42 for the Tigers

[th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list: Ashburn, #7 for the Phillies Berra, #7 for the Yankees Martinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals) Glavine, #9 for the Braves Soto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres) Conine, #16 for the Marlins Sheffield, #17 for the Marlins Piazza, #28 for the Dodgers Kent, #31 for the Giants R. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres) Could’ve Appeared Twice on a Long List: Ryan is also #20 for the Astros Rickey is also #38 for the Yankees Scherzer is also #42 for the Tigers

[th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list: Ashburn, #7 for the Phillies Berra, #7 for the Yankees Martinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals) Glavine, #9 for the Braves Soto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres) Conine, #16 for the Marlins Sheffield, #17 for the Marlins Kent, #31 for the Giants R. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres)

[th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]5[/td][td][/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list: Ashburn, #7 for the Phillies Berra, #7 for the Yankees Martinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals) Glavine, #9 for the Braves Soto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals Conine, #16 for the Marlins Sheffield, #17 for the Marlins Kent, #31 for the Giants R. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres)

[th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]5[/td][td][/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list: Berra, #7 for the Yankees Glavine, #9 for the Braves Conine, #16 for the Marlins Sheffield, #17 for the Marlins Kent, #31 for the Giants

[th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]5[/td][td][/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list: Glavine, #9 for the Braves Sheffield, #17 for the Marlins Kent, #31 for the Giants

Glavine is #9 on the Braves’ leaderboard.

Filling in here a bit. Yes, as noted, this does not include the Mets’ own leaders. [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]5[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]5[/td][td][/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td]

Bold choice going with the guy already listed on the leaderboard as the example.

Something I came across recently and seems like an enjoyable [CROSSOUT]CPF[/CROSSOUT] GCM/WPM quiz: Can you name the players who are (a) in the top 5 of a franchise’s all-time WAR leaderboard; and ( also played for the Mets at some point in their career? Example: Willie Mays is #1 on the Giants all-time WAR leaderboard. He also played a few games for the Mets. Note: -Franchises (not teams), so Pilots/Brewers, Senators vs. 1/Twins, etc. are a collective unit. No distinction for city moves either. [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]1[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]5[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]5[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]5[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td]

Stearns is optimistic that Lindor will be back for Opening Day. Mets haven’t made a right field decision yet. Not much groundbreaking here.

They do not. But this suspension conveniently occured after all the good free agents signed elsewhere. Others Busted twice for PEDs: Manny Ramirez Robinson Cano Guillermo Mota Marlon Byrd Neifi Perez Eliezer Alfonzo Francis Martes Jean Carlos Mejia Jennry Mejia (3x, lifetime ban)

Of course. Perhaps that was imprecise wording on my part. The majority of his career was with that team and that’s the team reflected on his HOF plaque. My number retirement stance is the only persons eligible are (1) HOF player, by the primary team; (2) entire career with team with a reasonable level of excellence.