Vic Sage wrote: All we're talking about in this thread is revisionist history, about which move would we want to undo. Certainly, the Bay/Middlebrook deal, in retrospect, was a bone-headed trade of youth for age in desperate and failed attempt to stay in the race, during the Steve Phillips `02 implosion. I object to the (frequent, not necessarily all by you) characterization of this deal as an obvious mistake because that certainly didn't become clear until several years later.