nymr83

Yeah nobody liked the deal and it was pretty dumb, even at the time. But when ts over I dont think it ends up looking as bad as Mike Hampton.

Centerfield wrote: Second generation contracts are tough. You want to sign a star player in his prime, but you know you're going to pay for it on the back end. For as much as we love Piazza, he gave us 4 great years, one injury shortened year, then two serviceable years. Which is a pretty good reason to like Piazza. He was 30 when we gave him that deal and most of these contracts turn out poorly. 4 great, 2 decent, 1 injured (and he played well in 40% of a season) is a return on investment that most teams would love to have on a 7 year deal for a 30 year old player. Of course they wont admit that the day they sign the guy.

Edgy MD wrote: I always thought VanLandingham was a William. His name isnt long enough already??

If this means the Mets want to spend more on players they feel may have more talent than 2 minor leaguers who arent going anywhere I'm ok with it. International draft would be a waste and I wish they'd take this system to the states... the owners can have the cost control they want (and the union wants it too for non-members) but without stopping guys from signing where they want to.

Frayed Knot wrote: metsmarathon wrote: jeez, how could you not blatantly root for arod here? the alternative is for hte yankees to get off scot-free on one of the worst signings in the history of baseball (second, unfortunately, to pujols). i don't think the teams should have a get out of jail free card when one of their players gets suspended for ped use. otherwise, i think very soon, you're going to see arte moreno spiking pujols' gatorade. This is kind of funny in that the prevailing wind from the collective sports media on this topic is that increased player penalties in the form of voided contracts in the case of dirty tests is the only thing that will keep them off the juice. Braun, it's being argued, got a $100+ million dollar contract on at least partial account of his drug use and the penalty for being caught (twice really) is a loss of about $3 mil. The Pujols contract may not be the worst yet. Mike Hampton got 121 million for 7 years and only pitched 2 terrible years for Colorado before they traded him and ate a large portion of it. The Ryan Howard extension is pretty bad. Vernon Wells was terrible for the Angels.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Bob Gibson? Correct!

I already said the player retired after that 1975 season, the next hint: he played his entire career for the same team.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Willie McCovey? Harmon Killebrew? McCovey was 37, Killebrew played his entire career in the AL (and was 39 in 1975, his final season in KC) Joe Torre was 34 in his first season as a Met. I guess he played and looked older!

Eh. Murphy gives us better (is Havens some kind of defensive whiz?) of course it would be nice if Havens can become better injury-insurance than Turner/Tejada at 2nd.

Edgy MD wrote: This led me to take a look at Baseball Reference (I wont give away answers) and another interesting question: Not since 1975 has the National league failed to have a player 40 years of age or older. What player (then 39 years old) was the oldest in the league in 1975? Hint: Tony Taylor was the 2nd oldest, and the oldest in 1976 at 40, as the player in question retired after the 1975 season. Do we have answer on this? By "the League," do we man the National League or all of MLB? If not Frank Robinson, how about Hank Aaron? Sorry I was unclear, I was reffering solely to the National League as there was a 40 year old in the A.L. those seasons. Not Frank, not Hank. Robinson was 39 in 1975 and in the AL anyway Aaron was a 40 year old for Atlanta in 1974, but in 1975 he too was playing in the AL for Milwaukee (then an AL club)

This led me to take a look at Baseball Reference (I wont give away answers) and another interesting question: Not since 1975 has the National league failed to have a player 40 years of age or older. What player (then 39 years old) was the oldest in the league in 1975? Hint: Tony Taylor was the 2nd oldest, and the oldest in 1976 at 40, as the player in question retired after the 1975 season.

Thats another part of the OF discussion... who sits when Duda gets back? does Duda not play nearly full-time?

Ashie62 wrote: We keep tooo many and use tooo many relievers... thats another thing. just STOP using 3 relievers to get through an inning.

I've seen enough of Valdespin that I think he'll never be more than the 24th/25th guy on the roster. If he's already on the 40 then there is no reason not to call him up when rosters expand, but I wouldn't waste too many ABs on him. let him shuffle between Vegas and here as needed for a couple of years until he runs out of options and gets claimed (I wouldnt hesitate to expose him to waivers)

Right now I'd want to start Lagares/Young/Byrd on most days, but you can work Niewenhuis in there a little and save Brown for "we need a homer" PH duties as the 5th guy. Unless the Mets want to callup den Dekker or another guy from the minors to see what he can do. There is really no good reason for Kirk not to be on this team right now.

I went to the Cyclones today (thankfully missed the Mets getting drubbed) and this was the only name in the lineup I recognized. I think he's missed a ton of time because his rate stats seemed low. He hopped a routine throw to first base which was ugly. he had some ugly swings too. its just one game though!

Real letdown today, Mets offense shitting the bed again and this time against a starter who has been terrible this year.

Gee suddenly decided to throw two batting practice pitches?

vtmet wrote: vtmet wrote: I find some of those defensive metrics to be head scratchers...according to fangraphs defensive stats, Tejada is a better shortstop than "Q"...but when you watch both play, "Q" is obviously the better shortstop... Not sure I'd say that. This year, sure, overall? nah. I've never been impressed with Tejada as a shortstop...he's an ok 2nd baseman or utility guy, but not really a decent MLB shortstop... Is Q really better, or is this the "Jeter problem"... A guy who doesn't throw the ball away so you don't notice the balls he never even gets to. Tejada has made his errors, but does he also make more plays?

bmfc1 wrote: It's not like FOX had a good camera angle on it so we could see what happened. Sorry, we were the low budget game.

It took forever to decide Wright hit that ball foul...

Let's hit Haren hard and early!!

Ceetar wrote: vtmet wrote: 15 errors just seems like a lot for this point of the season for a 2nd baseman...and his error totals didn't seem that bad about 5 or 6 weeks ago... It's a wee bit high, but errors aren't real predictive of how good a guy is defensively. I'm not sure I'd classify Murphy as "good" but perhaps "Above average"? I'd say "somewhat below-average". Nobody really seems to agree on defensive stats, but all of them say he costs runs at baseballreference.

Felt like every Harvey start there. As much as Hawkins, blame the offense for this one. They shot their load earlier today and forgot to show up tonight.

Great play by Turner but wow, murphy fucked that up a dozen ways... He had time to set and throw, but even if not you can't make a wild throw there... Just put the ball in your pocket and let Harvey face the pitcher with the lead still intact!!