nymr83

Edgy MD wrote: Nymr83 wrote: The initial ten year Texas contract ended up being probably one of the best long-term deals ever signed by a franchise!, it would have been even more valuable had the Yankees not moved him to 3rd while he was still a near gold-glove caliber defender at SS in favor of playing an inferior defender at SS. its the extension that screwed the Yankees. Yabbut, the extension was prompted by him moving to exercise an exit clause in the original contract, was it not? and the right decision there might have just been to say "take care, Asshole" knowing you got your money's worth on the years he already played.

The initial ten year Texas contract ended up being probably one of the best long-term deals ever signed by a franchise!, it would have been even more valuable had the Yankees not moved him to 3rd while he was still a near gold-glove caliber defender at SS in favor of playing an inferior defender at SS. its the extension that screwed the Yankees.

He can do that??? Wow.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck Wheeler running... Terry fired if HE gets hurt running Give Lutz or Flores a chance!

Lagares grounds out, free baseball!

Walking Young for Lagares? Weird.

Ughh Turner... Way to swing at 2 balls in the dirt

Welcome back Pedro!

Edgy MD wrote: Gee coming back in the eighth. How about that? I like it.

Given the summer weather, I would happily remain at Binghamton instead of Vegas.

theres plenty to be pessimistic about with thew Mets, but I don't think Juan Lagares is on of those things. Yeah he doesnt walkmuch and yeah the BABIP is unsustainable, but I think the defense and doubles power are enough to make him an average regular in center next year.

Not sure what the rule is here but it does seem bizarre for the reasons Edgy stated... what if two righties had been warming? - Jason Giambi's walk-off HR for Cleveland made him the oldest player ever to do that, breaking Aaron's mark by about six weeks. Aaron can't catch a break, juiced up cheaters just keep breaking his records

Vic Sage wrote: don't forget Benny the Jet Abayani, who was a gosh darn good hitter, and brian McRae, too, had 1 or 2 good years for us in that period. In fact, i'd venture a guess that the aggregate OPS of the 99-00 Mets outfielders (Henderson-Cedeno-Agbyani-Payton-McRae-Bell) was superior to that of our current aggregation of castoffs, has-beens, and kids. 1999 Mets OPS+ in the outfield - Henderson 128, Cedeno 107, McCrae 72 also Agbayani 125, Hamilton 130, Bonilla 49, Dunston 100, Allensworth 74 2000 Mets OPS+ in the outfield - Agbayani 122, Payton 98, Bell 98 also Henderson 64, Hamilton 86, Nunnally 81, Trammell 81 There are also going to be guys like Joe McEwing and Lenny Harris that may have had some outfield starts contributing to the overall numbers but i tried to only list individuals that i remember as normally being outfielders when they played. 2013 Mets OPS+ in the outfield - Duda 123, Lagares 100, Byrd 134 also Young 106, Niewenhuis 74, Valdespin 59, Baxter 77, Ankiel 68, Brown 89 We are pretty clearly doing better than 2000 and probably right around where 1999 was

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Other downside of the short bench --- hard to pinch run. Use Wheeler? If Buck gets to 2nd I'd do just that because at that point you're going to have to {H Recker anyhow. This isn't a pennant race, Harvey/Wheeler are not available to run the bases unless they happen to get a hit/walk. Its not worth the risk. Is Gee slow?

Can't PR for Buck when you carry 20 pitchers. Really dumb roster right now. Is there a fast pitcher? We have too many of them to pitch anyway

dgwphotography wrote: I believe Spitter was referring to Gordon-Levitt playing Robin. IIRC, Bale said he would never have anything to do with a Batman movie that involved Robin. I think the movie had enough too it already without adding in a Robin storyline. You don't want to get to where Spiderman 3 was with too many characters to deal with.

Mejia wins this season's "NO HUSTLE" award for that play. Bunting into a doubleplay is bad enough, but when you bunt you really need to FUCKING RUN IT OUT

Ceetar wrote: Nymr83 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I don't know. I mean, I'm against bunting, but let's not fall into the notion that who Lagares had been earlier in the evening against other pitchers (actually 3-3, with a walk, not 4-4) define who he was at that moment. As for walking the Q, well, there was a whole lot to be said for setting up the double play. Extra-innings are full of such stuff. That marathon against St. Louis that should have been Jerry Manuel's last game, it was going on all night. Guy reaches base, guy gets bunted over, next guy walked to set up double play. I look at Lagares as actually trying to bunt not just for a sac but for a hit there with the side effect of moving the runners up if he fails. i hate bunting, but this wasnt the worst bunt, particularly in a situation (already up 2 runs in the last inning) where increasing your probability of scoring 1 more run at the cost of your probability of adding more than that might not be the worst trade to make. I believe the run expectancy matrix suggests that bunting with first and second and no outs actually leads to more runs than not. Well, successfully bunting does anyway. But that factors in average hitters, not Quintanilla and we don't know. 1st and 2nd nobody out is 1.556 runs (with the chance of scoring at least 1 at 64.3%) 2nd and 3rd 1 out is 1.447 runs (with the chance of scoring at least 1 at 69.8%) so like i said, you are increasing your chances at 1 run while decreasing your chances at more. Also, these numbers assume the bunt was successful. if the bunt is unsuccessful and they get the lead runner (or you pop it up and they get you without runners advancing) your expectancy is down to 0.963 and 42.9%... other things can go wrong too (bunt into doubleplay, bunt foul and lower your chances of getting a hit when forced to swing with extra strike) Frayed Knot wrote: I think what a run analysis may show is that a bunt in that situation increases the likelihood that you'll score at least one run even if the average number of runs decreases overall -- and the argument can be made that an extra run or two there vastly increases the odds of winning the game so it's the better move than playing for the larger inning. Yes, thats what the tables show and I agree (as per my original comment that this wasnt the dumbest of bunts) that the strategy may be an ok one here. but i think we can easily refute the silly notion that bunting "leads to more run than not" here is an article with the charts (i referenced the most recent of the 3 data sets) http://beyondthescorecard.blogspot.com/2013/04/tom-tangos-run-expectancies.html

Edgy MD wrote: I don't know. I mean, I'm against bunting, but let's not fall into the notion that who Lagares had been earlier in the evening against other pitchers (actually 3-3, with a walk, not 4-4) define who he was at that moment. As for walking the Q, well, there was a whole lot to be said for setting up the double play. Extra-innings are full of such stuff. That marathon against St. Louis that should have been Jerry Manuel's last game, it was going on all night. Guy reaches base, guy gets bunted over, next guy walked to set up double play. I look at Lagares as actually trying to bunt not just for a sac but for a hit there with the side effect of moving the runners up if he fails. i hate bunting, but this wasnt the worst bunt, particularly in a situation (already up 2 runs in the last inning) where increasing your probability of scoring 1 more run at the cost of your probability of adding more than that might not be the worst trade to make.

I agree with FK, no trades will get done.

Come on Satin!!

SUCK IT Marlins!!

Stranding the leadoff triple?? Argjhhhhhhhhhh

Well, this game was going great until my fiance came in to bug me. Way to ruin the no-hitter!!

Ceetar wrote: we're getting off topic, don't diffuse the Yankee hate. What type of horrible contract are the Yankees going to give Cano, their only good hitter, after this season? This is his age 30 season. 2Bman seem to break down at not too much later than that. (Look at Utley?) I haven't seen that many numbers floated recently, but he's gotta be looking at something significantly crippling to the Yankees right? I'm thinking 8 years $220 Million. I'm hoping more.