WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

[A Boy Named Seo]

I'll stick this Verlander Bugs Bunny curve and delicious Todd Frazier swing in any thread where it's remotely relevant.

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[metirish]

Damn , that's a joy to watch

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Really been two wonderful games to watch. What the fuck has gotten into Verlander? Touched up by a couple homers, but still pretty sensational.

Psst!

[Frayed Knot]

So with Darvish getting rolled in the early innings of Game 3 here an exiting with the score 4-0 Houston after recording just 5 outs, you think maybe Dave Roberts regrets pulling Rich Hill in Game 2
after just 4 innings/1 Run/3 Hits/60 Pitches and therefore leaning on his pen for 8 pitchers and 7 innings including 20+ pitches from four different guys?

[Fman99]

Frayed Knot wrote: So with Darvish getting rolled in the early innings of Game 3 here an exiting with the score 4-0 Houston after recording just 5 outs, you think maybe Dave Roberts regrets pulling Rich Hill in Game 2 after just 4 innings/1 Run/3 Hits/60 Pitches and therefore leaning on his pen for 8 pitchers and 7 innings including 20+ pitches from four different guys?

Sure, their team won 104 games, but, you know, it's the playoffs, so they have to do everything differently from the way that worked for them the whole season, all because they have two days off in a five day stretch.

It's beyond stupid.

[Frayed Knot]

An extra-long five minute break in order to get in the 7th inning stretch dog and pony show, followed by a double on the first pitch of the bottom of the inning, followed by a pitching change and another
two minute break. IOW, one pitch over a seven minute span ... and they wonder why these games last four hours.

[Fman99]

I mean, it's 11:35, and I'm two strong drinks in (Friday, y'all!) and this game started 3 1/2 hours ago. And there are two innings left. Oh well.

[Frayed Knot]

From the last out in the top of the 7th inning until the last out in the bottom of the 7th [u:pl1vf46u]took 21 minutes to play -- 13 pitches were thrown during that time.[/u:pl1vf46u]

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[Frayed Knot]

The big question on the docket at the moment is whether Houston 1B Yuli Gurriel's reported 'slant eyes' gesture towards You Darvish is going to land him a suspension heading into Game 4.
I didn't hear anything about this until after the game and the only evidence I've seen is subject to interpretation, one of those things that you'll see if you're looking for it but wouldn't even notice otherwise.

[bmfc1]

Fman99 wrote: I mean, it's 11:35, and I'm two strong drinks in (Friday, y'all!) and this game started 3 1/2 hours ago. And there are two innings left. Oh well.

MLB is so damn stupid. 48% of the country lives in the eastern time zone but the culmination of the season is played after most of it/us have gone to bed. I spoke with 4 baseball loving fans on Thursday and none saw the last innings of the epic game on Wednesday night. MLB loves us in May when our team is playing damn Milwaukee but doesn't give a crap about us when the "classic" is on. We'll be back in March but how does this grow the game?

And F those new 6 second commercials.
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[Guest 41Forever]

That's a fascinating map. Wyoming needs people.

I went to bed before the big extra-inning outburst, too.

[bmfc1]

41Forever wrote: That's a fascinating map. Wyoming needs people.

And yet they have the same number of Senators as New York and California... but I digress.

[bmfc1]

Frayed Knot wrote: The big question on the docket at the moment is whether Houston 1B Yuli Gurriel's reported 'slant eyes' gesture towards You Darvish is going to land him a suspension heading into Game 4. I didn't hear anything about this until after the game and the only evidence I've seen is subject to interpretation, one of those things that you'll see if you're looking for it but wouldn't even notice otherwise.

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This is a test for Manfred. Will he accept Gurriel's "apology" ("I love those people! I meant no disrespect. If Darvish was upset, I'm sorry"), suspend him for a game now to make a statement, or kick it down the road until he can meet with Gurriel in the off-season to "truly assess the situation")?
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-hernandez-20171027-story.html

[Benjamin Grimm]

Any suspension would likely be served in April, because of the right to appeal.

I haven't seen this incident. I'll have to look for a clip online.

[bmfc1]

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21189685/houston-astros-yuli-gurriel-apparently-mocks-los-angeles-dodgers-yu-darvish

[Benjamin Grimm]

Okay, I found the video.

http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/10/27/astros-yuli-gurriel-appears-to-mock-yu-darvish-with-racist-gesture-during-world-series-video/

It keeps looping, with a voice (sounds like Bob Costas?) saying over and over again "and that's the guilty party".

Was the gesture mentioned at all during the telecast? Or is it something that caught fire with online commentary?

[Frayed Knot]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Was the gesture mentioned at all during the telecast? Or is it something that caught fire with online commentary?

I don't think it was mentioned during the game (although it's possible I missed a bit coming in or out of commercial breaks).
I first heard about it when I flicked on the radio after the game was over. The chatter seemed to be mostly among mainstream media types there covering the game rather than just on-line agitators
but I can't say exactly who 'started' it.

I have to say that those I heard last night seemed to be much more sure that this was a 'thing' than I was once I saw it this morning. If this were a replay review I'd have to say there's not enough
evidence to convict Gurriel on the offense even though that may have been exactly what he was doing.

[Frayed Knot]

bmfc1 wrote: And F those new 6 second commercials.

I actually think ads like that are part of the future.
When I'm elected king of baseball (lifetime appointment of course) and outlaw the additional warmup pitches the incoming relief pitcher gets when he comes on in mid-inning, having short ads that run
while the new pitcher comes in and without cutting from the action entirely is how the clubs are going to make up for any time they lose by not taking a full commercial break.

[Frayed Knot]

Five game suspension for Gurriel ... to be served next season.

[Edgy MD]

I thought he'd get a stern warning. I guess a suspension next season for post-season infractions this season kind of follows the Roberto Alomar/Roger Clemens precedent, but I guess since it wasn't an on-field, in-competition infraction (like Clemens'), it makes sense.

I saw Iggy Pop like 25 years ago. During "China Girl," he curled up with his head between his knees sorta fetal-style during the guitar solo, and when he came out of that position, he had his hands on the side of his head, violently pulling his skin back in the mock-Asian-eyes style. And even then, his skin was loosely attached to his face, so the effect was dramatic. I'm sure he was trying to make a meaningful statement, but for a guy with an Asian wife, singing a song about racism, it was an uncomfortable moment to be part of.

[Fman99]

Both managers stupid early with the hooks on the SP. Wood gives up his first hit and gets lifted, and Morton's thrown less than 80 pitches through six? Just dumb.

[Fman99]

And it costs them, as the bullpen coughs up the tying run on an RBI single to the gap.

[Frayed Knot]

Houston's erstwhile closer Ken Giles hasn't won himself many fans in this post-season.

[Edgy MD]

Fman99 wrote: Both managers stupid early with the hooks on the SP. Wood gives up his first hit and gets lifted, and Morton's thrown less than 80 pitches through six? Just dumb.

What gives?

[Centerfield]

Frayed Knot wrote: I have to say that those I heard last night seemed to be much more sure that this was a 'thing' than I was once I saw it this morning. If this were a replay review I'd have to say there's not enough evidence to convict Gurriel on the offense even though that may have been exactly what he was doing.

Is this a serious statement? What the fuck else could he have been doing?

And I assure you that this is a “thing”.

[Centerfield]

Frayed Knot wrote: The big question on the docket at the moment is whether Houston 1B Yuli Gurriel's reported 'slant eyes' gesture towards You Darvish is going to land him a suspension heading into Game 4. I didn't hear anything about this until after the game and the only evidence I've seen is subject to interpretation, one of those things that you'll see if you're looking for it but wouldn't even notice otherwise.

So there is no racism unless one happens to be looking for it?

This is such a stupid statement I don’t know where to start. It’s not subject to interpretation. And it’s pretty fucking noticeable.

It’s a slur. There is no other interpretation. There should be no tolerance for it. Does he need to come out in blackface for the point to be clear?

Did he not mean to offend anyone? He should start by not using slurs. Verbal or physical.

Don’t know what’s worse. The slur itself or white america saying “what’s the big fucking deal”.

I mean, he stood up for the anthem right? All good.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I wasn't watching the Gurriel thing. But I saw it later in the evening, after work. It's quick, but... come on.

If you were watching at that moment, and you didn't notice, well... There is no mistaking what he was doing, man. So if you're missing his message, you're doing so because you can afford to or because you're opting out of noticing. Y'ever wonder what "white privilege" is? Well, bud, I don't mean to sound accusatory, but you're sitting in it.

[Frayed Knot]

Centerfield wrote: Is this a serious statement? What the fuck else could he have been doing?

I dunno, touching the sides of his head for half a second?
My point is that not only didn't I see it but that, even if I were directly looking at him at the time, unless I were told what to look for and why, I still likely would have missed it.

That there were no denials coming from him or from Houston indicates that's probably exactly what he was doing and so I have no problem with Manfred's response.

[bmfc1]

Frayed Knot wrote: bmfc1 wrote: And F those new 6 second commercials. ... having short ads that run while the new pitcher comes in and without cutting from the action entirely is how the clubs are going to make up for any time they lose by not taking a full commercial break.

I'd be fine with that but not in addition.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Frayed Knot wrote: Five game suspension for Gurriel ... to be served next season.

Personally, I think it should have been the two WS home games. Five games in April isn't a pun-
Ishment, it's a cop out.