Bring Back Ces

[Edgy MD]

Well, that'd sure end the give-the-money-to-charity-instead initiative.

[ashie62]

Oh screw charity, its the Mets.

[Mex17]

So what I have heard (paraphrasing) is that Bautista is the "Plan B" if the market for Cespedes goes to five years, right?

Riddle me this then. . .

You figure that Bautista will want at least a two year deal, which would cover his age 36 and age 37 seasons. This coming off a year where his stats regressed. And there is no DH option for him (a quick glance informed me that his games played were greater than his games played in the field for at least the last few years)

Conversely, an extra year for Cespedes (assuming that the Mets are comfortable with four and not so much with five) would take Cespedes into his age 35 season.

So in what world is a shorter term Bautista commitment less risky at this juncture than a five year Cespedes commitment?

[Edgy MD]

Well, it's two years. 730 days in which something can go terribly wrong instead of 1876.

And well, it's a plan B. I'm guessing the Mets are willing to go for five years, if push comes shove, but how hard and how high relative to the other suitors is the rub.

[Frayed Knot]

Mex17 wrote: So what I have heard (paraphrasing) is that Bautista is the "Plan B" if the market for Cespedes goes to five years, right?

It is speculation that Bautista is A Plan B if the Cespedes market goes to five years and the Mets bow out - which is by itself speculation.

[Centerfield]

Haven't you heard? We are getting Giancarlo Stanton.

[Benjamin Grimm]

For Rick Ownbey!

[Zvon]

Centerfield wrote: Haven't you heard? We are getting Giancarlo Stanton.

Who started that rumor?!

When I read that the first and almost only thing I thought was that he would more than pacify me if we couldn't get Cespedes. And I can't say I feel that way about players like Bautista and Encarnacion. I also think that getting Stanton is more of a far out fantasy than getting Cespedes back again. But that's what I do. That's what we all do. Fantasize about the Mets, lol.


This is not a commercial for my blogthing.

[Centerfield]

I gave this some thought over the holiday. You know what? I'm ok giving 5 years. Let's get it done.

If you can make that fifth year an option, all the better, but he'll only be 35 at the end of his contract. Or, a year younger than Bautista is now.

And give him an opt out after 2 years to keep the guy motivated. He can hit the market again at 33 and look for the type of deal Encarnacion is seeking.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm also totally down with the fifth year. I admit that it may result in having a horribly overpaid and underproductive malcontent in 2021, but it's a risk worth taking. Now is not the time to worry overly much about the 2021 season.

[Zvon]

I figured the Mets have already gone to five years but I can't truthfully say. I get 95% of my Mets news here.
They gotta go at least 5.

The Turkeyday Metropolitan talks ended on a bad note as $$ and 7 yrs whisks Yo to Washington. And of course, ever the optimistic fool, I said I don't think it's all about the $$ w/Cespedes, and we'll see.

But one thing we can't let happen (if we don't have a Stanton up our sleeve) is Yo to the Nats. That would be a devastating kick in the nutz.
So bring him home Sandy!

[Edgy MD]

Long-term contracts to Jayson Werth and Ryan Zimmerman are a big part of the anchor keeping the Nats from going over the top these last few. I'd be surprised if they came in with seven years for Céspedes, but I'd imagine there'd be buyer's remorse almost immediately. Plus, they'd be forced to dump Werth for pennies on the dollar or move Harper to center. Plus, they haven't locked up Harper yet.

They aren't the team I fear. San Francisco, maybe.

[Centerfield]

Deal is done. 4 years $110 million. Pending physical.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

As per Yahoo/Ken Rosenthal. YAHOO! (Having a source attached makes this a lot more solid.)

So, basically... a two-year extension?

Edited November 29, 2016 by Guest

[Centerfield]

My word means nothing to you? Jerk.

Full no trade clause.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Splitting the diff between the 4/100 and 5/125 offers discussed here, though if they "started" with 5/125 as advocated above wouldn't have gotten here.

My 1 year/30 + opt-out plan didn't fly either.

[Guest d'Kong76]

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[Centerfield]

Does this mean we don't get Stanton?

[Centerfield]

I gave this some thought over the holiday. You know what? I'm ok giving 5 years. Let's get it done. If you can make that fifth year an option, all the better, but he'll only be 35 at the end of his contract. Or, a year younger than Bautista is now. And give him an opt out after 2 years to keep the guy motivated. He can hit the market again at 33 and look for the type of deal Encarnacion is seeking.

Good thing Sandy is at the helm and not me.

I can picture the Mets' brass conferring yesterday:

Should we do it now Sandy? You said after Thanksgiving.

Did I? Let's give it 'til tomorrow. He'll blink first.

[Frayed Knot]

Centerfield wrote: Deal is done. 4 years $110 million. Pending physical.

WHOA!!!
I wasn't expecting anything at least until the winter meetings got going and wasn't expecting them to get going unless and until the CBA deets got hammered out!!
So this was certainly a nice surprise for an otherwise dull Tuesday afternoon.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Bravo, Sandy!

[Guest d'Kong76]

Pending physical.

Examine, re-examine, then re-examine the examination and re-examination.
Ya know what I'm sayin'?

[TransMonk]

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Bravo, Sandy!

Agreed. I wasn't expecting a deal without going 5 years.

[Lefty Specialist]

[Benjamin Grimm]

I can't help but think that the Tabloid Cover Derby had something to do with this. The deadline for covers to be considered is December 4. I bet they noticed that the covers from Cespedes' return in January didn't make it out of the first round (because of competition from Mike Piazza).

Anyway, this is FANTASTIC news! This is almost as good as if we had traded Donald Trump to Venezuela for a president-elect to be named later.

Cespedes' new contract expires after the 2020 season, the same year that David Wright's does. A lot of money will be coming off the books then.

[Guest themetfairy]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I can't help but think that the Tabloid Cover Derby had something to do with this. The deadline for covers to be considered is December 4. I bet they noticed that the covers from Cespedes' return in January didn't make it out of the first round (because of competition from Mike Piazza).

Yo's no dummy!

[Centerfield]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I can't help but think that the Tabloid Cover Derby had something to do with this. The deadline for covers to be considered is December 4. I bet they noticed that the covers from Cespedes' return in January didn't make it out of the first round (because of competition from Mike Piazza). Anyway, this is FANTASTIC news! This is almost as good as if we had traded Donald Trump to Venezuela for a president-elect to be named later. Cespedes' new contract expires after the 2020 season, the same year that David Wright's does. A lot of money will be coming off the books then.

Has a Met ever been signed twice in the same calendar year? Kinda crazy.

[Guest Mets Willets Point]

Yay!

[metsmarathon]

damn, that's a lot of fancy cars for driving to spring training!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Centerfield wrote: Has a Met ever been signed twice in the same calendar year? Kinda crazy.

I know! It's strange to think that we're not going to have a Cespedes signing next winter to provide off-season jubilation.