José Fernandez Killed in Boating Accident

[Guest d'Kong76]

Aside from PED's I always assumed there's a comprehensive test for everything
not legal too. I have friends with CDL's that get tested for insurance purposes and
it's just one urine sample from time to time.

[Guest themetfairy]

Wait until cooby sees this....

[ashie62]

Testing for drugs of abuse is not administered randomly, but on a basis of reasonable cause. If one of the HPAC panel members has evidence that a player has used, possessed, or sold banned substances in the last 12 months, they call a conference and discuss the evidence with the other members. If a majority vote to test the suspected player is reached then testing will take place no more than 48 hours later. Drugs of abuse include natural cannabinoids (e.g., THC, hashish and marijuana), synthetic THC and cannabimimetics (e.g., K2 and Spice), cocaine, LSD, opiates (e.g., oxycodone, heroin, codeine, and morphine), MDMA (ecstasy), GHB and phencyclidine (PCP).

Schedule 1 testing is not mandatory.

[Zvon]

metirish wrote: Cocaine and alcohol in his system , a series of bad choices , sucks http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/29/us/miami-jose-fernandez-toxicology/

The first thing I thought when I read that was I wish I hadn't read it. Some things I'd just rather not know.

[Frayed Knot]

Ashie62 wrote: If one of the HPAC panel members has evidence that a player has used ....

Who or what is HPAC?

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Heartbreaking.

[Guest d'Kong76]

HPAC and the Wiki-page on MLB drugs and stuff...

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

if he was as into 5 Hour Energy as he appeared to be in commercials not a shocker he was into the coke too.

[Lefty Specialist]

Sad but not entirely unexpected given the circumstances of his death.

[Centerfield]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Sad but not entirely unexpected given the circumstances of his death.

Yup. It's actually like the least surprising thing in the world.

Not sure if the journalists who are reacting to this are feigning shock in an attempt to write an interesting column or are the most naive person in the world.

Actually, take that back. I think I know what the answer is.

Now will come the disputes over who was driving the boat, and whether there is a basis to sue Fernandez.

[seawolf17]

Zvon wrote: Cocaine and alcohol in his system , a series of bad choices , sucks http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/29/us/miami-jose-fernandez-toxicology/ The first thing I thought when I read that was I wish I hadn't read it. Some things I'd just rather not know.

And yet... fuckin' hell, kids. This was a guy who seemingly had everything... and yet, the drugs won. If I'm Dwight Gooden, I'm thanking my lucky stars I didn't buy a boat in 1986.

[Frayed Knot]

Centerfield wrote: Now will come the disputes over who was driving the boat, and whether there is a basis to sue Fernandez.

And the answers are: 1) Fernandez, and 2) yes -- according to the results of the police report which became public today.

The families of the other two victims were already in the process of suing to get a payout from JF's estate anyway, but this certainly gives them more ammo for their case.
In fact the report added that, had Jose survived the crash, the circumstances dictated that he would be brought up on manslaughter charges. The boat was doing 65 mph at the time of the crash.

[seawolf17]

Frayed Knot wrote: Now will come the disputes over who was driving the boat, and whether there is a basis to sue Fernandez. And the answers are: 1) Fernandez, and 2) yes -- according to the results of the police report which became public today. The families of the other two victims were already in the process of suing to get a payout from JF's estate anyway, but this certainly gives them more ammo for their case. In fact the report added that, had Jose survived the crash, the circumstances dictated that he would be brought up on manslaughter charges. The boat was doing 65 mph at the time of the crash.

I wonder about situations like this now that the raw sadness is gone. You want to honor his on-field success, but at the same time, this looks like he was being a complete jackass.

[ashie62]

Still want a uni patch for Jose?

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/investigation-into-jose-fernandez-crash-concludes-he-was-driving-boat-intoxicated/

My moral compass says no.
I got laughed down when I suggested a uni patch might not be the best idea.

End result? three dead young men dead.

[seawolf17]

Ashie62 wrote: Still want a uni patch for Jose? http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/investigation-into-jose-fernandez-crash-concludes-he-was-driving-boat-intoxicated/ My moral compass says no. I got laughed down when I suggested a uni patch might not be the best idea. End result? three dead young men dead.

That's kind of my point. It taints the memory a bit too much for me; I don't know that I'd want to hold him up as a beacon all season long.

[Edgy MD]

Ashie, you certainly weren't laughed down.

[ashie62]

I got carried away.

Three young lives were lost in a tragedy that didnt need to happen.

r.i.p.

[ashie62]

Edgy MD wrote: Ashie, you certainly weren't laughed down.

Hyperbole is my middle name Edgeward.

[Guest d'Kong76]

I re-read the thread before, no laugh down. Not a trace. Not a smidgen.
Let's leave hyperbole to the nut en El Casa Blanca.

[Edgy MD]

José Altuve now doing the 5-Hour Energy Drink commercials.

I'm not particularly superstitious, but I wouldn't touch that account.