Soothsaying for Sixteen: Yoenis Cespedes

[Edgy MD]

Edgy can't help himself. He's a completionist. He's bought more Mets books than he can frankly read. And his completionism leads him to put up soothsaying threads for the Raywilly Gomezes of the world in order to have all potential Mets covered. But seriously? What's to predict? Will he be flotsam or will he be jetsam? Will he get zero plate appearances or nine? The difference, as they say, is negligible.

But then there's me. I'm Yoenis Cespedes, and I'm a big, crazy, slugging Cuban expat. I might slug fifty homers, or I might slug a cop. I might unleash spectacular throws from the centerfield fence, or I might unleash ravenous doberman pinschers in a park full of middle schoolers. WHO KNOWS WITH ME? I could be a disaster in centerfield, or I might steal home five times. I'm what they call volatile. Here, have a smoke.

So yeah, the range of outcomes with me is, as Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders will tell you, YOOJ. It's one thing they agree on. But it's my job to drive super-expensive and attention-grabbing automobiles, count my money, and play a little baseball once in a while, and it's your job to predict what my season will look like when the dust settles. I don't envy you. At all. VROOM!

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[Vic Sage]

.270 ba / 25 hr / 95 rbi / 85 r /.800 ops

[Benjamin Grimm]

Hey! I've heard of this guy.

Put me down for 35 homers and 105 runs batted in.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

25-89-.256/.314/.499 //.813

Hoping to round up on all of those numbers but also trying to keep things in perspective. Ultimately the opt-out will worry us all: That he takes it or that he doesn't. He's that kinda player.

[Lefty Specialist]

.265/28/99. Worth it not least because he helps the hitters around him in the lineup.

[Vic Sage]

Lefty Specialist wrote: .265/28/99. Worth it not least because he helps the hitters around him in the lineup.

SABRmetricians say "what"?

[Ceetar]

.287/.315/.490 4.5 fWAR. 32 HR. 5th in MVP voting, but second on the Mets.

Playoff line: .250/.363/.501 4 HR. 4 2B. 15 RBI.

What he'll ride in the parade: A tricked out blue and orange Ferrari that belches flames to the tune of Meet the Mets.

opts out.

Gets 5/120 from someone else with an opt out after 2 which he doesn't take, and a 6th year option that the team doesn't take.

[ashie62]

61 hr 138 rbi .288 MVP

[Zvon]

What he'll ride in the parade: A tricked out blue and orange Ferrari that belches flames to the tune of Meet the Mets.

lol. Tweet that in his general direction and he just might.

Ashie62 wrote: 61 hr 138 rbi .288 MVP

There ya go. I'm with Ash. Why think small when all you're doing is thinking?

That's why I haven't jumped into any of these. I want them all to excel even past their potential so why predict anything less?
I'd put Conforto down for the 35 kaBOOMs you guys are giving Cespedes. Ha.

[MFS62]

.280
65-75 extra base hits, of which 28-30 will be home runs.
.835-.860 OPS
115 RBI
2nd in MVP voting.


Later

[Lefty Specialist]

Vic Sage wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: .265/28/99. Worth it not least because he helps the hitters around him in the lineup. SABRmetricians say "what"?

Well, he'll give David Wright a new barbecue recipe. And one day Lucas Duda's car won't start and he'll give him a lift to the ballpark.

[Vic Sage]

good recovery!

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

A Slingshot in every Florida parking spot, a custom hovercraft in every potential hovercraft-garage.

630 PA, .273/.320/.481; 29 HR, 82 R, 91 RBI, 7 SB/2 CS, 65 XBH

[Guest d'Kong76]

Comes up limping into a cold night late in April and hits a game winning
home run. Rounding second the limping gets worse and we don't see him
again until late June. And what a late June it's going to be! And what a July,
and what an August. September? Maurice will rise from the dead and write
another song just. about. Yoenis!

[Edgy MD]

So, what do you do with this guy?

He's a one man cannon of offensive potential about to be released at any moment, but that jogging show was not only utter bullshit, but so consistent with his act.

The steal of third was pretty consistent too. Like his most celebrated throws coming after misplays, it's like he has to dig a hole of indifference before finding the motivation to dig out with the full power of his machine of excellence.

[Centerfield]

You re-sign him after he opts out.

[TransMonk]

Agreed. He's been a pretty consistent offensive force for over a year now and has earned long-term consideration from the Mets.

Yeah, he makes some head-shaking defensive and base running errors, but I feel his bat is necessary to compete next season and beyond...especially with the question marks now surrounding Harvey, deGrom, Matz and Wheeler coming back from injury.

If Conforto of 2016 was the Conforto of 2015, I might feel differently.

[Edgy MD]

Centerfield wrote: You re-sign him after he opts out.

Well, that could depend on a lot of factors. Dollars and years and willingness to play right and such. Mostly dollars and years.

But that indifference ... it's a lot uglier a look when you're not hitting 30 homers, but instead hitting 18.

[TransMonk]

I'd love to be confident going into '17 with an outfield of Conforto, Bruce and some sort of Laggy/Grandy platoon in center.

But looking at the performance of Bruce and Conforto right now, and given Laggy's injury history and the continuation of a Granderson decline due to age next season, it's hardly confidence building.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'll feel much better about 2017 if Cespedes is part of the team.

The Mets can go cheap at second base next year (letting Walker walk) and they'll save another $12 million if Bruce gets cut loose. I'd like them to use that money to get a yes from Cespedes.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Edgy MD wrote: So, what do you do with this guy? He's a one man cannon of offensive potential about to be released at any moment, but that jogging show was not only utter bullshit, but so consistent with his act. The steal of third was pretty consistent too. Like his most celebrated throws coming after misplays, it's like he has to dig a hole of indifference before finding the motivation to dig out with the full power of his machine of excellence.

He's a modern superstar through and through. I was listening on the radio and Howie started hammering him during the call, then for 5 minutes afterward.

The stolen base was okay but it seemed to cost Rivera a swinging strike which was very expensive.

I will say hte man tends to rise to the occasion like few others. A day after he failed in a GW situation he came inches from winning one in consecutive innings.

Guy's one of a kind.

[Edgy MD]

If they continue with him as their crowned prince of superstardom, I sure hope have get a manager who can get him to play hard, instead of one who talks like a no-bullshit guy but seems to brook a lot of bullshit.

Love you, Terry. Don't get me wrong.

And yeah, the steal of third put him the right spot but a few pitches too late.

[Centerfield]

Just realized tonight might be the last time we see Ces in a Mets uniform.

Whatever you do this offseason (which will not start for a few weeks yet), you have to bring him back.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree. The fate of Cespedes will be the first big story of the offseason. My guess (and hope) is that they negotiate an extension before he hits free agency.

[Lefty Specialist]

Hafta have him back. He'd be a fool not to opt out, and unless he wants a 6+ year deal, they'd be fools not to sign him.

[Edgy MD]

Poster	PA	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	XBH	HR	RBI	Runs	SB	CS	fWAR	MVP
Vic Sage		.270			.800		25	95	85
Ben Grimm							35	105
John Cougar Lunchbucket		.256	.314	.499	.813		25	89
Lefty Specialist		.265					28	99
ceetar		.287	.315	.490	.805		32					4.5
Ashie62		.288					61	138					1st
MFS62		.280			.847	70	29	138					2nd
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr	630	.273	.320	.481	.801	65	29	91	82	7	2
REAL YOENIS CESPEDES	543	.280	.354	.530	.884	57	31	86	72	3	1	3.2	8th

I think MFS62 takes this one, too, though his second-in-MVP voting guess kind of throws his prediction a bit off.

[MFS62]

The crystal ball got fogged up by the time I got into the later categories.
I can sayeth sooth if I only have to type it, but not sayeth it out loud.

Later

[ashie62]

.277 38 HR 122 RBI 887 OPS 7 SB

[Edgy MD]

This thread is from 2016. You seem to be jumping the gun on 17.

[ashie62]

oopski lol