In hindsight, was Phillips right to not sign ARod?

[stevejrogers]

metirish wrote: I don't remember any point in his free agency where the Mets were close to getting him or even serious contenders, apart from all the talking that it's.

Right, they balked at Boras' first salvo of contract demands which demanded specific merchandising tents and everything in a big prospectus type of document. Which gave Phillips/Wilpon the "24 and 1" out. Though tin-foil hat wearers would claim that it, Phillips falling on the sword so early when none of the original demands would eventually show up in Texas or The Bronx, was because the Wilpons wanted to keep the franchise value down for their eventual buyout of Doubleday's portion of the franchise.

[Ceetar]

metirish wrote: Michael Kay just so you know is #here4u https://twitter.com/RealMichaelKay #asshole

mocking Francesa right?

[smg58]

SteveJRogers wrote: metirish wrote: I don't remember any point in his free agency where the Mets were close to getting him or even serious contenders, apart from all the talking that it's. Right, they balked at Boras' first salvo of contract demands which demanded specific merchandising tents and everything in a big prospectus type of document. Which gave Phillips/Wilpon the "24 and 1" out. Though tin-foil hat wearers would claim that it, Phillips falling on the sword so early when none of the original demands would eventually show up in Texas or The Bronx, was because the Wilpons wanted to keep the franchise value down for their eventual buyout of Doubleday's portion of the franchise.

Tents or not, the "24 and 1" scenario happened in Texas. There was only one team where A-Rod could go and it not be a "24 and 1" scenario. And he's playing for them tonight.

[stevejrogers]

smg58 wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: metirish wrote: I don't remember any point in his free agency where the Mets were close to getting him or even serious contenders, apart from all the talking that it's. Right, they balked at Boras' first salvo of contract demands which demanded specific merchandising tents and everything in a big prospectus type of document. Which gave Phillips/Wilpon the "24 and 1" out. Though tin-foil hat wearers would claim that it, Phillips falling on the sword so early when none of the original demands would eventually show up in Texas or The Bronx, was because the Wilpons wanted to keep the franchise value down for their eventual buyout of Doubleday's portion of the franchise. Tents or not, the "24 and 1" scenario happened in Texas. There was only one team where A-Rod could go and it not be a "24 and 1" scenario. And he's playing for them tonight.

That is true, but the pro-signing and anti-Wilpon press delighted in reminding everyone what ended up not being the case, basically decrying the Mets as the world's worst poker players.

[Edgy MD]

Well, maybe they are, but... well, who cares. Steve Phillips is disgraced a half dozen times over since then, and we, for better of for worse, at least aren't associated with the Rodriguez Sideshow.

[metsmarathon]

if the mets had arod, then the awful absurdity of '02-'04 likely never happens, and maybe the mets, boosted by the increased fan attendance and arod's performance, sail past the yankees and dominate the city for the early first half of the decade, and beyond.

or, the mets are anchored down by his heavy contract, are unable to free up enough other payroll to buy any good players, and finally jettison him to the yankees for alfonso soriano. and end up right back where we are now.

or maybe we end up worse. who really knows.

[Fman99]

I don't know if the Mets should've topped the contract Texas ended up paying. But the Mets dropped out of the bidding almost immediately. Who knows? If the Mets offfered A-Rod a fair market value contract early on, maybe Texas never submits an offer. A-Rod did everything but formally announce his preference to play for the Mets. Here's another good question: Do you think that in hindsight, the Mets should've traded Amos Otis for Joe Foy? Or do you think somebody should've drowned Hitler before he reached puberty?

Can we have one thread on this forum that doesn't mention Hitler's pubic hair?

I'll speak out -- I wanted to see A-Rod in a Mets uni. I can recall him sitting in the stands at Shea during the 2000 WS as a spectator and it was the biggest deal -- because it was like he was courting the Mets. That "24+1" was a lot of horse shit, ultimately, the Wilpons didn't want to pay for him and off he went to Texas.

[Fman99]

Edgy MD wrote: Well, maybe they are, but... well, who cares. Steve Phillips is disgrace a half dozen times over since then, and we, for better of for worse, at least aren't associated with the Rodriguez Sideshow.

Like you never banged a fat ESPN production assistant dressed up like Princess Leia. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

[Ceetar]

Fman99 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Well, maybe they are, but... well, who cares. Steve Phillips is disgrace a half dozen times over since then, and we, for better of for worse, at least aren't associated with the Rodriguez Sideshow. Like you never banged a fat ESPN production assistant dressed up like Princess Leia. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

well no, but not for lack of trying.