The Dynasty Crumbles - the 2013 MFY Thread

[MFS62]

So far today, Jeter is 2-2 with a homer.
The Mets are down 8-0 and being no-hit.

I don't think I'm gonna' read tomorrow's newspapers.

Later

[ashie62]

Hey..maybe Arod will get picked up with a transvestite tonight.

[Fman99]

Ashie62 wrote: Hey..maybe Arod will get picked up with a transvestite tonight.

I thought maybe she just had a really big clitoris! Next question please...

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

The Yankees helped the Red Sox regain first place today. So kind of them.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Suspension could be coming down today. Supposedly there is evidence that he's been using for the last three years -- though I don't know how that lands him the threat of a lifetime ban.

More importantly, are the MFYs officially the most roided up franchise?

ARod
Clemens
Pettitte
Giambi
Boone

That's not counting the scrubs, the Cervelli types.

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Remember that 9 players on the 2000 Yankees roster were on the Mitchell Report. 'Roidiest team ever.

[Ceetar]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Suspension could be coming down today. Supposedly there is evidence that he's been using for the last three years -- though I don't know how that lands him the threat of a lifetime ban. More importantly, are the MFYs officially the most roided up franchise? ARod Clemens Pettitte Giambi Boone That's not counting the scrubs, the Cervelli types.

I'm sure you're missing some.

Not to mention the old-timers that have been around since those free steroid years who claim they'd do anything to win.

[Edgy MD]

What we haven't talked about is that "true Yankee" nutcase Tino Martinez being dismissed from the team we are playing RIGHT NOW, for being physically abusive.

We also haven't talked about the Yankees on a pace to break a record.

An offensive record.

A offensive futility record.

A offensive futility record currently held by the Mets.

A offensive futility record currently held by the 1983 Mets.

Ouch.

Dear Yankees,

Thanks.

Love,

Brian Giles and Jose Oquendo

[Centerfield]

Tino and A-Rod are both big enough assholes to deserve their own threads no?

Funny how many are trying to write this off as Tino being old school and not being able to adjust to today's player. To me, this is about an asshole who has a big ego thinking he is better than the kids he is coaching.

Does this mean that Jeter would have been ok with Tino verbally abusing him and grabbing him around the neck?

Fuck Tino.

[Edgy MD]

Really?

You know, if Yankee fans are defending Tino for being too righteously bad-assed for the wimpy simps that the Marlins must be, and the Yankees are simultaneously setting an offensive futility record, the only logical choice for the true Yankee fan is to advocate for him to replace Kevin Long as their batting coach.

[Ceetar]

Edgy MD wrote: Really? You know, if Yankee fans are defending Tino for being too righteously bad-assed for the wimpy simps that the Marlins must be, and the Yankees are simultaneously setting an offensive futility record, the only logical choice for the true Yankee fan is to advocate for him to replace Kevin Long as their batting coach.

Well duh, the Yankees do like Marlins cast offs for coaches and managers after all.

[metirish]

Here's what I don't get...now, I don't care for Rodriguez in the slightest....not one bit, but reports have Selig throwing the book at him, lifetime ban and if he appeals that Selig will invoke " integrity of the game" to keep him out.

Again, I don't care for Rodriguez but unless Selig has compelling evidence this seems like bullshit, dare I say bullshit pushed by the MFY?

What could he have done that is worse that Braun?, he cheated, lied and smeared people.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I believe Arod may have attempted to interfere with MLB's investigation. That's part of it. But the MFYs are so desperate to extract themselves from the contract its palpable. I am sort of rooting for Arod to make things difficult for the MFYs.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Best possible outcome: He never plays again, but the Yankees have to pay him anyway.

[metirish]

Exactly, while Rodriguez getting banned for life makes good headlines I would much rather a smaller ban, the MFY still paying him and Rodriguez coming back to absolutely suck .

[Edgy MD]

Most certainly.

And Melky Cabrera attempted to interfere with the investigation too. Jason Grimsley attempted to steal Albert Belle's incriminating bat, and he ain't permanently ineligible or anything.

[Ceetar]

my ideal i think is A-Rod being banned for the rest of the season, and the Yankees working out a Jason Bay deal with him so that he then goes to Seattle and plays for the Mariners, successfully, for a couple more years so that when he retires and, eventually, gets into the Hall it's as a Mariner.

Then I could even like him again.

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

metirish wrote: Exactly, while Rodriguez getting banned for life makes good headlines I would much rather a smaller ban, the MFY still paying him and Rodriguez coming back to absolutely suck .

This.

[Centerfield]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I believe Arod may have attempted to interfere with MLB's investigation. That's part of it. But the MFYs are so desperate to extract themselves from the contract its palpable. I am sort of rooting for Arod to make things difficult for the MFYs.

Sort of? I am flat out rooting blatantly for ARod. I just tattooed ARod's lawyer's face on my boob*.





*the one that doesn't have Matt Kemp's grandmother on it.

[bmfc1]

Rodriguez is on the cover of the new SI. Crap.

[metsmarathon]

Centerfield wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I believe Arod may have attempted to interfere with MLB's investigation. That's part of it. But the MFYs are so desperate to extract themselves from the contract its palpable. I am sort of rooting for Arod to make things difficult for the MFYs. Sort of? I am flat out rooting blatantly for ARod. I just tattooed ARod's lawyer's face on my boob*. *the one that doesn't have Matt Kemp's grandmother on it.

jeez, how could you not blatantly root for arod here? (hell, i just tattooed arod's boob on my face! i'm in it to win it!) the alternative is for hte yankees to get off scot-free on one of the worst signings in the history of baseball (second, unfortunately, to pujols).

i don't think the teams should have a get out of jail free card when one of their players gets suspended for ped use. otherwise, i think very soon, you're going to see arte moreno spiking pujols' gatorade.

[Frayed Knot]

metsmarathon wrote: jeez, how could you not blatantly root for arod here? the alternative is for hte yankees to get off scot-free on one of the worst signings in the history of baseball (second, unfortunately, to pujols). i don't think the teams should have a get out of jail free card when one of their players gets suspended for ped use. otherwise, i think very soon, you're going to see arte moreno spiking pujols' gatorade.

This is kind of funny in that the prevailing wind from the collective sports media on this topic is that increased player penalties in the form of voided contracts in the case of dirty tests is the only thing that will keep them off the juice. Braun, it's being argued, got a $100+ million dollar contract on at least partial account of his drug use and the penalty for being caught (twice really) is a loss of about $3 mil.

[bmfc1]

Excellent points above. The MFYs are being allowed to manipulate the system and the union isn't doing anything on the player's behalf. The MFYs are stalling (claiming that Rodriguez is hurt) until Selig bans him for the season. Somehow, the MFYs won't have to pay him and it will all work out just swell for them.

[Frayed Knot]

bmfc1 wrote: Excellent points above. The MFYs are being allowed to manipulate the system and the union isn't doing anything on the player's behalf. The MFYs are stalling (claiming that Rodriguez is hurt) until Selig bans him for the season. Somehow, the MFYs won't have to pay him and it will all work out just swell for them.

Well, the MFYs are paying ARod NOW whether he plays or not so this stalling act isn't saving them a dime. They certainly will NOT be paying him during the time he's suspended but that's more MLB's doing than the Steinbrenners & Levines of the world. When and for how long that suspension comes is still up in the air especially since Alex and lawyers threaten to fight ANY punishment in the face of MLB claiming they've got enough to throw an entire library of books at him that will ban him for life.

Where this is all going to help the Yanx is in their desire to get under the salary cap next season. They were determined to do so with him but it'll probably be a breeze if Selig has enough to keep him out all of 2014. The reason they're so anxious to get under that cap is that the penalties for going over the cap multiply the longer you're over it and, let's face it, the Yanx have been over it since it was invented. But getting under, even just once, in effect 'resets the clock' so even if they head back over the cap in 2015 they'll do so at only the lowest level of tax rates, not the multiplier rates they're paying now. So whatever money they save on even a temporary ARod ban could pay off for them in larger savings down the road.

[Centerfield]

Which is why we have to prove A-Rod is getting set up here. It's all part of the conspiracy.

FREE AROD.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Well, the MFYs are paying ARod NOW whether he plays or not so this stalling act isn't saving them a dime.

supposedly if he misses the entire season(due to injury) they can collect insurance money.

[nymr83]

Frayed Knot wrote: metsmarathon wrote: jeez, how could you not blatantly root for arod here? the alternative is for hte yankees to get off scot-free on one of the worst signings in the history of baseball (second, unfortunately, to pujols). i don't think the teams should have a get out of jail free card when one of their players gets suspended for ped use. otherwise, i think very soon, you're going to see arte moreno spiking pujols' gatorade. This is kind of funny in that the prevailing wind from the collective sports media on this topic is that increased player penalties in the form of voided contracts in the case of dirty tests is the only thing that will keep them off the juice. Braun, it's being argued, got a $100+ million dollar contract on at least partial account of his drug use and the penalty for being caught (twice really) is a loss of about $3 mil.

The Pujols contract may not be the worst yet.

Mike Hampton got 121 million for 7 years and only pitched 2 terrible years for Colorado before they traded him and ate a large portion of it.

The Ryan Howard extension is pretty bad. Vernon Wells was terrible for the Angels.

[Edgy MD]

Jason Bay suddenly looking like a bargain.

[metirish]

Hi wiki page this morning briefly had "former third baseman".


As it is the page starts out with some strange wording

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Rodriguez

[metsmarathon]

pujols is still owed $212M after this year.

someone needs to do a really intensive look at the actual return on investment of major league free agents. i'm sure its been done every year at fangraphs, actually. but i don't have it, and now want to see it. so somebody should do it for me.