Carlos Quentin

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

We should trade for him, and release Bay.

Or not trade for him and release Bay.

Thoughts?

[metirish]

But Bay is a good guy.......was Q injured this season....only 102 PA so far.

[soupcan]

metirish wrote: But Bay is a good guy.......

And - as I learned watching 'Beer Money' last night, pre-game - he played in the 1990 Little League World Series.

[metirish]

soupcan wrote: metirish wrote: But Bay is a good guy....... And - as I learned watching 'Beer Money' last night, pre-game - he played in the 1990 Little League World Series.

and Bucket wants to trade him....Christ , guy can't catch a break.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'd trade Bay for a bag of balls. Just to ensure that Hairston and Newy and eventually Baxter play more. I guess what I'm sayin' is that I'd release Bay.

This is where you miss Bobby V's sharp eye for talent: Bobby V could look a player over and in five minutes, know whether he's done or not and the fuck with the sample sizes.

[metirish]

I'd trade Bay for a bag of balls. Just to ensure that Hairston and Newy and eventually Baxter play more. I guess what I'm sayin' is that I'd release Bay. This is where you miss Bobby V's sharp eye: Bobby V could look a player over and in five minutes, know whether he's done or not and the fuck with the sample sizes.

traded for IIRC because Bobby V went to Boston and checked him out at the "hit dog machine" gym...if that was the name of the place

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'd trade Bay for a bag of balls. Just to ensure that Hairston and Newy and eventually Baxter play more. I guess what I'm sayin' is that I'd release Bay. This is where you miss Bobby V's sharp eye: Bobby V could look a player over and in five minutes, know whether he's done or not and the fuck with the sample sizes. traded for IIRC because Bobby V went to Boston and checked him out at the "hit dog machine" gym...if that was the name of the place

Ha! Is that true?

[metirish]

yes it is if memory serves.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Well if they wanted a better first baseman that off-season, they coulda signed Jason Giambi.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Re: Carlos Quentin

Aren't we already over our "Q" quota for the current half century?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

metirish wrote: But Bay is a good guy.......was Q injured this season....only 102 PA so far.

Knee surgery, with Tommy John surgery before that.

Right know, he's essentially Uncle Cliffy at the time we got him.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Quentin's a right-handed hitter, $7 M contract is up after this season and the Pads are going nowhere.

I think the Mets need a right-handed bat who can play either left field or second base. He's not so old that he couldn't be the kinda guy who'd be worth getting a look-see prior to his free agency.

[TransMonk]

What would you be willing to give up for Carlos?

[metirish]

TransMonk wrote: What would you be willing to give up for Carlos?

this is what the Six got for him last off season


Traded by the Chicago White Sox to the San Diego Padres for Pedro Hernandez (minors) and Simon Castro (minors).


This guy is the piece I guess

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hernan007ped

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=castro001sim

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

So... Carson/Edgin and, say, Erik Goeddel? Or Familia?

I'd imagine Den Dekker and change would happen in a little more than a heartbeat, but... do we want to do that?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Den Dekker or Nieuwenhuis, maybe.

I was thinking that Doodoo would be an especially fair price but might kill the need from our perspective.

[Benjamin Grimm]

He's a bit closer to free agency now than he was last season.

[metirish]

Don't think I want to give up much for a guy coming back from knee surgery, having no clue how serious it was or anything I do know from listening to Fran Healy how important knees are in swinging the bat.

[DocTee]

Den Dekker would be too steep for a free-agent to be, I think. Plus, there'll be bats that could be had for less soon enough....Soriano could come cheap, and apparently the Cubs would pay major freight. Shin-Shoo Choo anyone? (perhaps the Tribe could even send us back Joe Smith, or Matt LaPorta if we sent say, Murphy and Davis). Quentin is intruiging but the injury and potential short-term part of this deal worry me

[TransMonk]

I'd be willing to give up very little...and nothing off the ML roster. If the Mets are buyers, they should be should be looking for additions and not upgrades.

I'd rather get some bullpen help for cash and take our chances with the offense we have than give up anything that may help in the future.

I'm all for Quentin on the dirty-cheap.

[Fman99]

I'd trade Bay for a bag of balls. Just to ensure that Hairston and Newy and eventually Baxter play more. I guess what I'm sayin' is that I'd release Bay. This is where you miss Bobby V's sharp eye: Bobby V could look a player over and in five minutes, know whether he's done or not and the fuck with the sample sizes. traded for IIRC because Bobby V went to Boston and checked him out at the "hit dog machine" gym...if that was the name of the place

I can see why they called him the "Hot Dog Machine."

Wait, what?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

DocTee wrote: Den Dekker would be too steep for a free-agent to be, I think. Plus, there'll be bats that could be had for less soon enough....Soriano could come cheap, and apparently the Cubs would pay major freight. Shin-Shoo Choo anyone? (perhaps the Tribe could even send us back Joe Smith, or Matt LaPorta if we sent say, Murphy and Davis). Quentin is intruiging but the injury and potential short-term part of this deal worry me

Choo's interesting, but would make us even more lefty-heavy.

And isn't the "short-term" part of this deal what's appealing about Quentin? He's an affordable rental at the right price for a short-term need, even without any Pod kick-in.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I still don't think the Mets will be serious contenders deep into the season, so I'm not in favor of them trading real prospects for a rental. If we're going to trade youth, I'd rather get a guy like Hunter Pence, who may also be available, and is under control through 2013. But my preferred approach for the remainder of this season would be to try to bolster the bullpen and not deal any blue chips.

[Edgy MD]

Do you see

(1) taking Hairston's appearances in left?
(2) taking Hairy and Nieuie's appearances in left
(3) taking Hairston's appearances in left, but pushing him to center, where he steals time from Andres Torres?
(4) taking Hairston's and Nieuies appearances in left, but pushing them both to center, where they steal time from Andres Torres?

Because what he's worth should be weighed in the context of who he's displacing.

[nymr83]

DocTee wrote: Den Dekker would be too steep for a free-agent to be, I think. Plus, there'll be bats that could be had for less soon enough....Soriano could come cheap, and apparently the Cubs would pay major freight. Shin-Shoo Choo anyone? (perhaps the Tribe could even send us back Joe Smith, or Matt LaPorta if we sent say, Murphy and Davis). Quentin is intruiging but the injury and potential short-term part of this deal worry me

LaPorta is an AL-player from what i've heard, his ideal position is DH and i don't think we need more of those guys.

[ashie62]

I would take Quentin to make a run this season. I wouldn't give up much and Matt Den Dekker really isn't much, he can be included...

[Lefty Specialist]

Edgy DC wrote: Do you see (1) taking Hairston's appearances in left? (2) taking Hairy and Nieuie's appearances in left (3) taking Hairston's appearances in left, but pushing him to center, where he steals time from Andres Torres? (4) taking Hairston's and Nieuies appearances in left, but pushing them both to center, where they steal time from Andres Torres? Because what he's worth should be weighed in the context of who he's displacing.

That's exactly what Bay will do when he returns, isn't it?