Signing Sugar

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Grimm must have had a job where he churned out boilerplate for press releases at some point.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

bmfc1 wrote: What is that cap DW is wearing at his press conference?

New alternate cap, to go with the blue uni tops.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

bmfc1 wrote: What is that cap DW is wearing at his press conference?

New orange brimmer for '13.

I read that his girly is there. What's she like?

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I read that his girly is there. What's she like?

She's out of your league, dude.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Hell, she may be out of Wright's league.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Good heavens Miss Sakamoto.

[Edgy MD]

Whoah...

[metsmarathon]

Edgy MD wrote: Whoah...

LOL

[Ceetar]

you know he's looking at Molly.

[Edgy MD]

Howie Megdal, come out and play.

[Farmer Ted]

Verducci = Donnie Fucking Downer.


Nice to see David Wright step up again to play in the World Baseball Classic. But keep this in mind, Mets fans, now that Wright is wrapped up for the next eight seasons: At age 29, Wright is about the same player Scott Rolen was at the same age. But here is Rolen's average season for the next eight years: .273, 11 home runs, 57 RBIs, 105 games. That's not $138 million of value.

[metirish]

What a dick, seriously, fuck off Verduochebag.

[metsmarathon]

other comparables for wright include carl yastrzemski, chipper jones, carlos beltran, gary sheffield and george brett. those comparables of his who have retired to date (yaz, sheff, brett, and del ennis), and thus have a complete career, averaged 26 WAR from their age 30 season to the end of their career. using the current $/WAR value, this translates to an expected value of $117M. hell, even scott rolen, felled by injuries, logged 22 WAR from age 30 onward, good for $99M at current exchange rates. scott rolen is a bit of a stealth hall of fame candidate.

oh, in other news, robinson cano is basically hte same player as carlos baerga. sorry yankee fans. you're screwed.

using similarity scores as presented on bbref to project out a player's career is bunk. just stop it.

[Frayed Knot]

metsmarathon wrote: ... using similarity scores as presented on bbref to project out a player's career is bunk. just stop it.

Or, more accurately, using ONE player on the similarity list to project out a player's career is especially bunk if the majority of that list shows otherwise.

And hey look, he's not wrong to say that this might not all work out before the deal is done. It's just that picking and choosing your evidence skews things towards the pre-determined conclusion, and doing so with a guy whose demise was so obviously caused by chronic shoulder injuries makes it even more so.

[Edgy MD]

Danny Frisella died at David's age. Sorry, Mets fans.

But that's silly. He's an infielder. Like Ray Chapman or Danny Thompson.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Details about the contract, from Jayson Stark at ESPN:

The Mets will defer $15.5 million of the $138 million in David Wright's new eight-year extension, according to sources familiar with the details of the contract. However, the deferred dollars were reduced significantly from the amount the club initially wished to defer. The Mets will defer $3 million of Wright's $11 million salary in 2013, then $2.5 million annually from 2014 through 2018. Because of the deferrals, the total deal is valued at $134,015,678 by the Major League Baseball Players Association, sources said. The team originally pressed for a greater percentage of deferred money, a demand that nearly caused discussions to unravel, according to a baseball official who was consulted on the negotiations. However, subsequent negotiations succeeded in reducing the deferred money to a level that was amenable to both sides. Wright's contract calls for him to earn $11 million next year, $20 million in each of the following five seasons, then $15 million in 2019 and $12 million in 2020. The contract also includes numerous award bonuses. Wright would earn an additional $500,000 if he wins the MVP award, $1 million if he wins it a second time, and $1.5 million if he wins it a third time during the life of the deal. He would receive an additional $200,000 for any season in which he finishes second through fifth in the voting. He also would collect $100,000 for making the All-Star team, another $100,000 if he receives the most All-Star votes in the league and $100,000 apiece if he wins a Sporting News, Baseball America or Associated Press player of the year award. The contract calls for $100,000 bonuses if Wright wins the Gold Glove, Silver Slugger or Hank Aaron Award. It also contains postseason MVP provisions. Wright will donate $1.38 million over the life of the contract to a charity designated by the Mets.

[Edgy MD]

That's a funny last line. Reads like a shakedown.

[metsmarathon]

eventually the deferrals have to come home to roost, no? pretty soon, the mets are going to have a $100M payroll just from deferred payments alone.

[seawolf17]

Edgy MD wrote: That's a funny last line. Reads like a shakedown.

It kinda does. "That charity may or may not involve the Wilpon Family Trust Fund."

[ashie62]

metsmarathon wrote: eventually the deferrals have to come home to roost, no? pretty soon, the mets are going to have a $100M payroll just from deferred payments alone.

The money is supposed to be invested to pay for itself, like Madoff used to do.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Mark Carig, Newsday wrote: David Wright has earned right to be face of Mets, and he plans to be In the earliest stage of a ballplayer's career, he essentially is the property of his organization, his salary determined by the club in control of his rights. It is the lasting remnant of baseball's infamous reserve clause. As a player establishes himself, he accumulates various rights, beginning with salary arbitration and ending with free agency. Relatively few reach this end of the spectrum. Even fewer reach it without ever having to change uniforms. David Wright is one of the chosen ones. He sealed his destiny with an eight-year, $138- million contract that represented much more than an endorsement of his skills as a third baseman. It is the culmination of a relationship that has evolved on that spectrum. He stands alone now as the public face of the franchise. During the next eight years, fans will learn how Wright will adapt to his unquestioned stature within the organization and whether his presence ultimately will lead to a turnaround. But Wright, 30, already has offered brief glimpses of how he envisions his new role. "I want to do everything I can to meet the goals that I have and the goals the organization has,'' he said this past week. Wright took an active role during his contract negotiations with general manager Sandy Alderson and chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon. He insisted upon a detailed explanation of the organization's revival plan. He studied the team's minor-league prospects and spoke freely about the types of players he thought should be brought in as free agents. During that process, he was clued in on the fact that trading away reigning National League Cy Young Award winner R.A. Dickey remained a distinct possibility. When the deal finally was made official, Wright did not hesitate to offer his endorsement. The Mets had lost a 20-game winner and the anchor of their starting rotation, but Wright emphasized the acquisition of two elite prospects in the process. He personally called catcher Travis d'Arnaud and pitcher Noah Syndergaard to welcome them to the organization. From finding places to dine in New York to searching for spring training lodging in Port St. Lucie, Wright let both know his line is open. "I told Sandy and I told Jeff this,'' Wright said. "I'm willing to obviously go all in and give you everything that I have. And in return, they told me that they would do the same.'' Even before the extension, as Wright moved from one end of the player spectrum to the other, the Mets had sensed that kind of loyalty. Without it, there would have been no new contract. "I thanked his parents, I really did,'' Jeff Wilpon said earlier this month at the winter meetings. "I know Fred [Wilpon] wanted to make sure I thanked his parents, because if they didn't raise him to be the man he is, we wouldn't have committed to him.'' Through the new contract, that loyalty has been codified, and Wright said he's prepared to show it. That means staying on the right side of a blurry line. "Am I lucky and do I feel privileged that Sandy has shown me and talked about the plan moving forward? Of course,'' Wright said. "But by no means am I going to be -- unless he asks me my input on something -- I'm not going to be in his ear trying to convince him to do this or that. If he asks my opinion, I'll be more than happy to share it. But I think there has to be that kind of separation of powers there.'' Nevertheless, Wright is aware of the areas in which he's uniquely qualified to exert his influence. The franchise's stability emerged as Wright's primary concern when he began talks on his new contract. He signed only after gaining assurances from Wilpon and Alderson that the Mets eventually will be positioned to spend on talent. Only one more year separates the Mets from their first taste of payroll freedom. When that time comes, Wright said he's prepared to do his part. "Of course I'm going to do everything I can, whether it's helping the front office when they're signing and trying to recruit other players or whatever it is,'' he said. Wright also must convince the fans, and to do that, he must remain an All-Star-caliber player for his voice to hold any sway. He faces a tough sell. Lingering questions loom over the team's financial outlook, and years of losing have eroded the goodwill between the club and its fans. But in Wright, the Mets have a player capable of leveraging an uncommonly strong bond with his fans. It is a delicate responsibility bestowed upon the few who reach the end of the spectrum -- when player and franchise are almost one and the same. "I think that I have a special relationship, a special connection, not only with the organization but with the fans,'' Wright said. "I've been here for nine years already and I'm going to be here for another eight. I feel like growing up a Mets fan, being raised a Mets fan, I do have a certain perspective as to what this fan base, what this organization, kind of yearns for and the direction that we're heading.''

[metirish]

It's still weird that Jeff calls his dad Fred. Not saying it's wrong,just weird.

[ashie62]

They snowed Wright and David hung R.A out..period.

[Edgy MD]

The buzz makes it sound inevitable that the captaincy is going to happen this spring. Only open questions seem to be who signs off on it and whether he wears a C.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I hope he wears a Cap'n Crunch hat.

[metirish]

Edgy MD wrote: The buzz makes it sound inevitable that the captaincy is going to happen this spring. Only open questions seem to be who signs off on it and whether he wears a C.

What would Jeter do?


Utter nonsense.

[MFS62]

metirish wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The buzz makes it sound inevitable that the captaincy is going to happen this spring. Only open questions seem to be who signs off on it and whether he wears a C. What would Jeter do? Utter nonsense.

When Michael Kay discussed the idea of a Mets Captain a few years ago, he said the "C" on the Yankee uniforms is classier; the Mets' one was too big.
Yes, he did say that.

Later

[Edgy MD]

It's all unfolding perrrfectly.

[stevejrogers]

MFS62 wrote: metirish wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The buzz makes it sound inevitable that the captaincy is going to happen this spring. Only open questions seem to be who signs off on it and whether he wears a C. What would Jeter do? Utter nonsense. When Michael Kay discussed the idea of a Mets Captain a few years ago, he said the "C" on the Yankee uniforms is classier; the Mets' one was too big. Yes, he did say that. Later

Are you sure that wasn't his attempt at ironic humor?

[MFS62]

SteveJRogers wrote: MFS62 wrote: metirish wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The buzz makes it sound inevitable that the captaincy is going to happen this spring. Only open questions seem to be who signs off on it and whether he wears a C. What would Jeter do? Utter nonsense. When Michael Kay discussed the idea of a Mets Captain a few years ago, he said the "C" on the Yankee uniforms is classier; the Mets' one was too big. Yes, he did say that. Later Are you sure that wasn't his attempt at ironic humor?

No. It was just his YLDBaggery.

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