Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 �liver (Martinez) P�rez. Pos: SP; BL-TL.Born: August 15, 1981 in Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico. (He'll be 29 in 2011.)Birth Context Karma: The SHaMs of 1981 were storming into the fringes of the second-half race with a 3-1 victory over the world champeen Phillies. That Leach guy might be worth a look.Acquired: Traded by the Pirates with Roberto Hernandez to the New York Mets for Xavier Nady on July 31, 2006.TmLgWLW-L%ERAGGSGFCGSHOSVIPHRERHRBBIBBSOHBPBKWPBFERA+WHIPH/9HR/9BB/9SO/9SO/BBBB-Ref WARFG WARSt.�LucieFLOR (A+)11.5004.6322000011.6776624014101470.9435.41.53.110.83.5BuffaloIL (AAA)00.0002.3122000011.67104327010202531.4577.71.55.47.71.43TotalMinors11.5003.4744000023.33171094110243031001.2006.61.54.29.32.18NYMNL05.0006.80177400046.1543735942337404234582.07210.51.78.27.20.88-1.5-1.1TotalAll16.1435.702111400069.437147441353361707334583.27217.13.212.416.53.06Number: 46Wife: Luz Arianna Felix Gutierrez PerezNickname: Nothing kind.Namesakes: Gigolo on the left:Best Day in 2010: Good days were not common for Ollie in 2010, at least not on the field. But he didn't come out terrible. His second start had some grind-it-out quality, before the bullpen spit it out. (Yes Fernando Nieve was pitching his third day in four there.)Last Word: Oliver is coming to camp, expecting to be abused, and ultimately released before camp ends. If he pitches well, it's most likely to be a set up for a trade to a team willing to take him on at 5-10% of his salary. If.What do you expect of Oliver Perez in 2011? Be kind. He's holding a puppy.
Guest El Segundo Escupidor Guests Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I think he'll revert to the chinstrap extended to his sideburns, with a small soul patch. No mo.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 12, 2011 Author Posted February 12, 2011 Wouldn't it be great if he showed up with a big fuckin' crazy rooster mohawk?
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Hurts his leg jumping over the foul line and we never see him again.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Squirted out of this universe like a cosmic watermelon seed, never to be seen or heard from again.
Guest El Segundo Escupidor Guests Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:Wouldn't it be great if he showed up with a big fuckin' crazy rooster mohawk?Shit yeah. If I was his PR man I'd tell him to do it. Get him some thick-rimmed black glasses, too. The Citi faithful will lap it up.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Released during the final week of spring training. Will sign a minor league deal elsewhere and will briefly resurface in the majors in August.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 He's got a chance of sticking around longer than Castillo, IMO. He might also be the No. 5 starter, someone has to be and he prolly has more stuff than any of the other candidates. Fan/media racism will be his enemy. Would they be satisfied if he repeated 2008?10-7, 4.22, 105/180 K/BB in 194 IP
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:He's got a chance of sticking around longer than Castillo, IMO. He might also be the No. 5 starter, someone has to be and he prolly has more stuff than any of the other candidates. Fan/media racism will be his enemy. Would they be satisfied if he repeated 2008?10-7, 4.22, 105/180 K/BB in 194 IPPretty much. Castillo, while probably not as 'washed up' as people make him out to be, doesn't have the potential to contribute above and beyond what Ollie does. I'd accept that line out of our fifth starter. My 'ideal' I guess, would be Young and Cap, with Perez accepting Buffalo, which seems slim. When someone goes down, he comes up and has a decent couple of months as a bridge to Santana.
Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 OK, someone has to be the insane optimist. Drastically improves his WHiP, becomes the 4th starter, wins 12 games.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 i expect he just barely, and quite unpopularily, makes the rotation out of spring trianing. by the end of april, with an ERA approaching six, he's on his last legs. in his first game of may, he improbably throws a no hitter, but still walks seven, including the winning runs. it is his last start as a met.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 metsmarathon wrote:i expect he just barely, and quite unpopularily, makes the rotation out of spring trianing. by the end of april, with an ERA approaching six, he's on his last legs. in his first game of may, he improbably throws a no hitter, but still walks seven, including the winning runs. it is his last start as a met.Awesome
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 He'll make the team, then surprise everyone when he pitches so well that, if Omar were still here, he'd give him a contract extension.OK, so I'm taking the last of my pain pills.Never mind.Later
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Late one night, after Ollie's release in April, Luz will watch Ollie walk slowly to the curb to take out the trash, miss the can three times, and shuffle around aimlessly. She will sob and cry, dry her eyes with 1500-thread-count disposable tissue, and drift off to sleep, thinking about how things might be different if she hadn't blown off that cocky Gallardo kid in the club that night.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I don't expect a lot, so boy, am I in a position to be pleasantly surprised.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Released during the final week of spring training. Will sign a minor league deal elsewhere and will briefly resurface in the majors in August.This.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Misses the team flight from Florida heading north, and is never seen or heard from again. Mets security tapes, leaked to the press by Mets security, show that Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz were the last persons to see Ollie alive. Fred and Saul's Q ratings quadruple when Ollie is later declared dead and it is revealed that Wilpon and Katz were each the sole beneficiaries of a $50 million life insurance policy taken out on Ollie.Ollie Perez pitched two of the worst 11 pitcher-WAR seasons in franchise history. He would've had two in the top 10, but Ollie v2010 displaced Ollie v2009 by one slot. Ollie's 2010 pitching WAR is the worst of the worst rate-wise, averaging one negative WAR every 30.89 innings.Some contract.RankPitcherWARYEARIP/WAR1Paul Wilson-2.81996-53.212Craig Anderson-2.01962-65.673Randy Jones-1.81981-32.964Doug Sisk-1.71985-42.945Jim McAndrew-1.71973-47.256Oliver Perez-1.52010-30.897Aaron Heilman-1.52003-43.558Cal Koonce-1.51969-55.339Pete Schourek-1.51993-85.5510Jay Hook-1.51963-101.7811Oliver Perez-1.42009-47.14
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Expectations? None whatsoever.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 13, 2011 Author Posted February 13, 2011 I expect him to give an interview in which, no matter what he says, people will passionately use it against him.
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I don't understand your post, Edgy. Perez hasn't earned a bit of credibility with me, and with almost all Mets fans, after refusing to do what was best for the team and go to the minors. Shame on the Mets for not cutting his sorry ass right then but he became a non-entity to me the minute that happened. He's a horrible pitcher, he's not a team player, and the Mets have wasted far too much time and energy on him.I hope that he wins 30 games this year for the Mets, I hope that he become successful in any role, because as long as he's wearing the blue & orange I will root for him but they could cut him right now and I'd be happy. I have no expectations for him other than to continue to suck, to pout, and to take up spring innings that could be taken by someone with a better chance of success in 2011 which is anybody else in camp.
Guest Mets Guy in Michigan Guests Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I am convinced that Oliver Perez will throw the Mets' first no-hitter.Sadly, it will come on a night game in San Francisco with a two-hour rain delay, meaning none of us will see it live. But that's OK because we'll miss Jose Reyes spraining his ankle on the wet turf. The next day, the Daily News back page will have a dominant photo of ARod buying Cameron Diaz a hot dog from a street vendor -- but he accidentally knocks over a baby in a stroller trying to dodge the camera, all under the headline "DOG DISASTER: ARod tips tot." Buried in a teaser box at the bottom, the headline: Despite Madoff mess, Mets blank Giants.Ian O'Conner will Tweet that day: Ollie would have more no-nos with Jeter behind him. Bob Klapisch will write a whole column hinting -- but not actually saying -- that Bud Selig ordered the Giants to go easy on the Mets that night, noting that Buster Posey was given the night off and Ollie was matched up against the fifth starter.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 13, 2011 Author Posted February 13, 2011 bmfc1 wrote:I don't understand your post, Edgy.When fans decide they hate somebody, they tend to make something of everything he says that supports the narrative already established.
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) Do you expect me to pitch competently?No, Mr. Perez. I expect you to DIE. Edited February 13, 2011 by Guest
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 I was all set to click "like" on that last post. Then I remembered this wasn't Facebook.
Guest El Segundo Escupidor Guests Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:bmfc1 wrote:I don't understand your post, Edgy.When fans decide they hate somebody, they tend to make something of everything he says that supports the narrative already established.I usually go to the comments pages on umdb to gauge the prevailing fan sentiment on players. They are quite revealing.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 I'll stick with what I wrote last year which I am sure was very optimistic, Ollie does that to me.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 14, 2011 Author Posted February 14, 2011 Joel Sherman published the following cryptic tweet:All Ollie Perez stories must cease now until one begins: The #Mets today released Ollie Perez ... #notinterestingWhich was cryptic enough that folks misinterpeted it to read that the Mets had, in fact, released �liver P�rez, which they of course had not.It was a small seismic tremor in the blogosphere. You could feel it if you were on a high floor.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:Joel Sherman published the following cryptic tweet:All Ollie Perez stories must cease now until one begins: The #Mets today released Ollie Perez ... #notinterestingWhich was cryptic enough that folks misinterpeted it to read that the Mets had, in fact, released �liver P�rez, which they of course had not.It was a small seismic tremor in the blogosphere. You could feel it if you were on a high floor.Joel Sherman must love messing with the heads of Mets fans, sending a message that could be so easily misinterpreted..Later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 14, 2011 Author Posted February 14, 2011 �liver P�rez, goaded by reporters and blogs (along with Luis Castillo) for not reporting early, actualy reports early, and takes the the time to say a dozen postiive things to boot.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Perez would not rule out becoming a relief pitcher."If they want to use me in the bullpen or for one inning, I don�t know," he said. "What�s more important for me is trying to be on the team and try to help the team, because I know the past few years we�ve had trouble winning the games."I suspect that if Ollie knew he was healthy again, he wouldn't have said that.
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