K-Rod

[DocTee]

Arrested, domestic abuse.

Cut. Him. Now.

[nymr83]

from cbs

News: New York Mets reliever Francisco Rodriguez is in custody after what police called a "physical assault" on a family member at Citi Field. Police say Rodriguez will be charged with third-degree assault. Police say the incident occurred after the Mets' 6-2 loss to the Colorado Rockies on Wednesday night. Police did not say which family member Rodriguez scuffled with -- reports are it was his father-in-law -- but said the unidentified man had minor injuries. The Mets confirmed there was an incident between Rodriguez and his family, and referred all questions to the police

[Mex17]

It really seems like you can always count on something along the lines of this happening at least one time every year with this team, especially when they are losing.

[metirish]

T'was the father-in-law...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/08/12/2010-08-12_francisco_rodriguezs_alleged_attack_on_fatherinlaw_creates_problems_for_mets_on_.html

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

This clown's gotta go.

Apparently it was Manuel's decision not to go to Rodriguez for a four-out save in the eighth inning with the Mets leading 2-1 last Wednesday night that set the closer off. Manuel went with Manny Acosta, who gave up a grand slam and ruined a terrific outing by starter Jon Niese. When a reporter approached Rodriguez in the clubhouse after the game to ask him about Manuel's decision, K-Rod angrily shouted and cursed at the reporter. "Did, I f-----g pitch tonight," Rodriguez said. "Why do I have to talk to you f-----g guys?" Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/08/12/2010-08-12_francisco_rodriguezs_alleged_attack_on_fatherinlaw_creates_problems_for_mets_on_.html#ixzz0wOF6jEYb

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

FAAAAAAAAANtastic.

I wonder what kind of odds I can get on a "Bay sprays reporters with Grade A maple" bet.

Edited August 12, 2010 by Guest

[bmfc1]

There goes my hope that he'd be traded to Tampa before September 1.

[metirish]

Bucket, when you say this clowns gotta go are you talking about Manuel or Rodriguez?, or perhaps both?

[Ceetar]

Manuel uses him properly this probably never happens.

I thought the Mets didn't have enough "fuck you" attitude?

[bmfc1]

Mets ownership has a "fuck you" attitude toward us when it keeps Perez on the team.

Jerry's excuse that Rodriguez pitched the night before so he didn't want him pitching more than one inning is bullshit. He didn't even think of having Rodriguez ready and that's why he wasn't in the game so he fed us nonsense.

Edited August 12, 2010 by Guest

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: Manuel uses him properly this probably never happens. I thought the Mets didn't have enough "fuck you" attitude?

wtf.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: Manuel uses him properly this probably never happens. I thought the Mets didn't have enough "fuck you" attitude? wtf.

What? is that a stretch?

Seriously though, I think Manuel set this up to distract from his contradictory post game comments.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree! That's exactly the kind of thing Jerry does! He tells his players to attack their fathers-in-law after most losses!

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I agree! That's exactly the kind of thing Jerry does! He tells his players to attack their fathers-in-law after most losses!

To be fair, Jerry though K-Rod's father in law was Oliver Perez.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I thought it was Brian Bruney.

Really, though, when we coddle and indulge our high-end relief pitchers, we shouldn't be shocked when they turn out to be sociopaths.

I'm really confused at how Jerry's still standing. I guess they just want to fire him and Omar together.

It would be really great if there was a statement along the lines of, "We did our own internal investigation and based on the facts we gathered, we concluded he was an asshole. A huge one, to be honest."

[Willets Point]

Did Frankie first load the bases before punching out his father-in-law?

[bmfc1]

Edgy DC wrote: I thought it was Brian Bruney. Really, though, when we coddle and indulge our high-end relief pitchers, we shouldn't be shocked when they turn out to be sociopaths. I'm really confused at how Jerry's still standing. I guess they just want to fire him and Omar together.

Good stuff Edgy in all three lines. The Wilpons have to pay Jerry whether or not he manages the team so why promote someone who will then have to get a raise? Perhaps the day after the season, Jerry goes and Omar is reassigned.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't think it's a question of pay. The amount of money an interim manager gets is neglible in the context of the cost of running a team.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: I don't think it's a question of pay. The amount of money an interim manager gets is neglible in the context of the cost of running a team.

I think it's a question of not seeing the point of grabbing an interim.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I'm sure Jerry is a goner at the conclusion of the year. There's just no way anymore.

This really resembles the Art Howe and Wes Westrum situations where the manager's future joblessness is so apparent they either voluntarily step aside (Westrum) or soldier on despite a leaked firing.

Edited August 12, 2010 by Guest

[Ceetar]

Well, would we feel better if they didn't fire him, but leaked that they were going to?

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree with interim guys being pointless when there are only seven to ten games left in the season. I was glad that they let Art Howe finish up, and they should have done the same with Bud Harrelson and Wes Westrum.

But with 50 games left? I'd rather give Chip Hale, or Tim Teufel, or Ken Oberkfell, or somebody, a chance to audition for the job. Or even better, choose the permanent replacement, like they did when Bobby Valentine replaced Dallas Green in 1996. (And when Bud Harrelson replaced Davey Johnson in 1990.)

There's no reason at all for Jerry to continue any longer. He's a dead man walking.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

ANYWAY, since you douchebags turned this into another conversation about Jerry, I forgot my main point, which is this:

If I'm the Mets, I am exploring every possibility to use this incident and others as a way to excise themselves from the asinine contract Omar gave to Rodriguez, if only because the budget seems like it's such a factor now. If they are not careful they will be on the hook for $29 million for this guy over the next 2 seasons, and nobody, much less a sociopath who beats his own family members, is worth that kind of scratch. Talk to his agent, the union, and work something out, but get this clown out of a Mets uniform and take whatever releif you can get from your own people.

[Frayed Knot]

All threads now - including apparently family-related assaults - lead to Jerry's job status.

[Guest Edgy DC]

To me the best parallel is Yogi Berra. His team needed disciplining and he lacked the juice and support from management to bring the hammer down on them, so he had become emasculated to the point of being a ghost in his own clubhouse.

I get the idea nobody's captaining this ship right now.

I'd love for them to use this as an excuse to get the uniform off of Rodriguez's back and quickly, but I don't see a scenario where that happens.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: To me the best parallel is Yogi Berra. His team needed disciplining and he lacked the juice and support from management to bring the hammer down on them, so he had become emasculated to the point of being a ghost in his own clubhouse. I get the idea nobody's captaining this ship right now. I'd love for them to use this as an excuse to get the uniform off of Rodriguez's back and quickly, but I don't see a scenario where that happens.

I don't see a scenario either. I'm not sure I'd want to. The silliness of a closer aside, he's still one of the better relievers, and I don't quite believe the Mets have no money for a SP/2B/relievers next year.

[Centerfield]

If K-Rod goes, who closes games?

Go in-house like Parnell? Or shop again for an "established" closer?

[MFS62]

If it had been his mother-in-law, I could understand it.

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Or even better, choose the permanent replacement, like they did when Bobby Valentine replaced Dallas Green in 1996. (And when Bud Harrelson replaced Davey Johnson in 1990.)

You really can't do that anymore. The league's affirmative action plan says a minority must be interviewed for each opening, so a typical in-season managerial change has to be temporary while they make a show of interviewing a group of guys. They could just a appoint the guy they want as interim and run cursory interviews before appointing him as full manager a week later, but the Mets are such good soldiers and I don't think they'll roll that way.

Do I have this wrong?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: There's no reason at all for Jerry to continue any longer. He's a dead man walking.

Oui. Maybe he's swallowing his pride and hanging on for the payout. I know I am.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: To me the best parallel is Yogi Berra. His team needed disciplining and he lacked the juice and support from management to bring the hammer down on them, so he had become emasculated to the point of being a ghost in his own clubhouse. I get the idea nobody's captaining this ship right now. I'd love for them to use this as an excuse to get the uniform off of Rodriguez's back and quickly, but I don't see a scenario where that happens. I don't see a scenario either. I'm not sure I'd want to. The silliness of a closer aside, he's still one of the better relievers, and I don't quite believe the Mets have no money for a SP/2B/relievers next year.

Centerfield wrote: If K-Rod goes, who closes games? Go in-house like Parnell? Or shop again for an "established" closer?

Really, why care who closes? Hasn't it become clear that blowing your money on name-brand closers scarcely makes your games any more secure? Develop talented pitchers and put them in important spots.

If they've lost control of the team, fretting over who closes is a deckchair/Titanic issue.