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We were in Puerto Rico last week. This gives me the chance to share some Fun Facts about Puerto Rico as background for the Mets three games in San Juan:

The population of Puerto Rico is 3.9 million. If Puerto Rico was a state, it would rank 27th in population (and have six or seven Congressmen).

The sun goes down in Puerto Rico at around 7 so it will be dark at game time (Puerto Rico is on Atlantic Standard Time which is the same as EDT).

It�s been raining a lot. We might have seen two hours of sun in six days.

Hiram Bithorn was the first Puerto Rican native to play in the majors (he was a pitcher for the Cubs in 1942).

Next to San Juan is Carolina (�Caro-leena�) which is known as the �City of Giants� because it was the birth place of Roberto Clemente and Felipe Birriel, who was 7�11� (one tour guide said 8�4�).

Posters for these games featured Carlos Beltran, Puerto Rican native. Also on the posters are Jose Reyes, from the Dominican Republic, and Johan Santana, from Venezuela. They could have had pictures of Puerto Rican natives Alex Cora, Angel Pagan, Pedro Feliciano and Jesus Feliciano (called �El Motorito� in the local insert of [u:3qcwahyz]USA Today[/u:3qcwahyz]). One of our tour guides said that they are sorry that Beltran will not be able to play.

According to Mets.com, �The Marlins have no active players from Puerto Rico, though their interim manager, Edwin Rodriguez, is a native of Ponce, P.R.�

If you read that the Mets enjoyed a local food called mofongo before the game, that will not be good news. It is delicious but heavy and it will make the Mets lethargic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mofongo

You�ve heard that Miami is New York�s �6th Borough� but I�ll go with San Juan. You can get [u:3qcwahyz]The Times[/u:3qcwahyz] and [u:3qcwahyz]The Post[/u:3qcwahyz] everywhere. A local TV station has a contract with MLB and mostly shows Mets games (either on WAPA or WAPA 2). The ABC affiliate shows �Eyewitness News� from NY each day at 5, 6 and 11. You can get Schaefer at the Super Max (although I don�t know why you would when you can get excellent local beers Medalla and El Presidente) so there will be plenty available for the Mets to earn during these three games.


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I wonder if the home-field-away-from-home effect will be more pronounced than it is in Miami.

Puerto Rico has been generous to the Mets, especially if you like strength up the middle and aren't, you know, too particular about starting pitching depth. If you want more home town flava, you can always call up San Juan's Jose De La Torre or Rio Piedras' Jorge Padilla from Buffalo.

All Time NuYorkiquan Mets team

Starting Pitcher
Dicky Gonzalez
Julio Valera

Relief Pitcher
Pedro Feliciano
Roberto Hernandez
Juan Padilla
Edwin Nu�ez
Willie Collazo
Jos� Santiago

Catcher
Junior Ortiz
Ramon Castro
Omir Santos
Robinson Cancel
Orlando Mercado
Raul Casanova
Sandy Alomar, Jr.

First Base
Carlos Delgado
Willie Monta�ez
Luis Rosado

Second Base
Felix Millan
Jose Valentin
Roberto Alomar
Carlos Baerga
Ruben Gotay
Luis Alvarado
Sandy Alomar, Sr.
Third Base
Felix Mantilla
Shortstop
Jos� Oquendo
Alex Cora
Rey Sanchez
Mario Diaz
Sergio Ferrer
Luis Lopez
Mario Ramirez
Tito Navarro
Luis Rivera

Left Field
Raul Gonzalez
Benny Ayala
Ricky Otero
Ricky Ledee

Center Field
Carlos Beltran
Angel Pagan
Jerry Morales
Pepe Mangual
Jesus Feliciano

Right Field
Gil Flores

Coaches
Luis Alicea
Luis Aguayo
.
.
.
.
.
.


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It will be more fun if the Mets improve on their all-time 2-5 HBS mark this week.


Guest Edgy DC
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Hiram Bithorn:





Retirees:


The first all-Puerto Rican MLB doubplay combinatino to play in San Juan: Roberto Alomar and Rey Sanchez.



My money says Bay can reach these walls.


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Great information!!!

I was in Puerto Rico only for a short while back in 2005, as it was a cruise stop. The ride into Old San Juan, past the castillo, is stunning. I was hoping to make a run to the stadium, but given the time constraints we were pretty much limited to Old San Juan.

Having only been to Canada previously, Puerto Rico seemed like my first real international place, even though technically it's not. Then again, Miami seemed more foreign than Toronto.

Anyway, it was a really neat place and I'd love to go back.


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Nice knowledge bmfc1!


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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
I was in Puerto Rico only for a short while back in 2005, as it was a cruise stop. The ride into Old San Juan, past the castillo, is stunning.


Was it limping?


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Here's a fun fact , this is Bob , a chicken that Lorcan adopted when we were there for New years, we would feed him every morning ....he got fat....he gave birth to a bunch of chick the week after we left....Bob is now Bobbi





Guest Edgy DC
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I, myself wrote:
My money says Bay can reach these walls.


metsmarathon wrote:
after how many bounces?

Bounce this.

Not much going right, but Bay's on the board.


Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
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Not to get all Cassandra on y'all, but I have a bad feeling about the next two games. Tak* and Pelf both tend to get hammered by the Fish.

*SSS Alert!


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Edgy DC wrote:
I, myself wrote:
My money says Bay can reach these walls.


metsmarathon wrote:
after how many bounces?

Bounce this.

Not much going right, but Bay's on the board.


oh sure.

there's a juicy setup for an easy funny, and it blows right up on me, yet we still lose.

jerks.


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Edgy, I know you showed his number in the wall.
But do you have any photos of HBS that include the statue of Roberto Clemente?
I didn't spot it in the pics you posted.
Maybe it will change the karma for the series if you post one.

Later


Guest Edgy DC
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Don't worry about karma.


Guest The Second Spitter
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metirish wrote:
Here's a fun fact , this is Bob , a chicken that Lorcan adopted when we were there for New years, we would feed him every morning ....he got fat....he gave birth to a bunch of chick the week after we left....Bob is now Bobbi



Wow, Lorcan's getting bigger. He'll be playing with the other type of chicken before too long.


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MFS62 wrote:
Edgy, I know you showed his number in the wall.
But do you have any photos of HBS that include the statue of Roberto Clemente?
I didn't spot it in the pics you posted.
Maybe it will change the karma for the series if you post one.

Later


Stay tuned. I took one last night, and I'll post it when I get home. The statue of Clemente isn't actually at Hiram Bithorn, but next door at the Roberto Clemente Arena. (Not its actual name. I'll post that as well.)


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Anyway, as the previous post more than hints, I'm in Puerto Rico right now, typing this from a hotel in Condado Beach (San Juan) with a balcony overlooking the ocean. When we checked in, our room wasn't ready, so they upgraded us (for free!) to a suite! Sweet!

I'll post photos in this thread when I get home. (We're attending the Monday and Tuesday games, but we're returning home on Wednesday afternoon.)

The retired numbers in the photo Edgy posted were nowhere to be seen last night, by the way.

There's a statue of Hiram Bithorn in front of the stadium, and, as I said above, one of Roberto Clemente in front of the hideous arena adjacent to Bithorn.

There was a very excited vibe in front of the stadium last night as we waited for the gates to open. Sort of a playoff atmosphere with a Caribbean flavor. A camera man was taking video of the throngs, and he zeroed in on me, in my Mets cap. I might have been on the local news last night, shouting YAHHHHHHHHHHH! into the camera. (I was trying to get into the spirit of the moment!)

In the last few days, as I've been around town (and around the island) in my Mets cap, I've had a few people approach me. One guy said that the Mets are the "team of Puerto Rico" and that might very well be. The crowd at the ballpark was definitely a Mets crowd; there were Mets caps and jerseys all over the place, and very little evidence of Marlins fans. (Except for Billy Marlin, who had his work cut out for him trying to get Mets fans to root for the Marlins. He only made a few quick appearances.)

Weirdest moment of the game, for me: After the Mets were out in the seventh, I stood up to stretch. I remembered something I used to do at Shea when I was a callow youth. I'd stand just a little before most of the other fans, and gesture for everyone else to stand. It made it seem like 50,000 people were following me lead. (A fun little thing to do.) Last night I stood, and realizing that I was the first one up, I had a little flashback and did the "up" gesture again.) Nobody stood. Nobody. The guys next to me, who didn't look or sound Puerto Rican and who were wearing Mets gear, looked at me like I was crazy. There was no seventh-inning stretch. It was like I had slipped into an alternate Fringe universe where nobody had ever heard of the seventh inning stretch. Even my wife and kids refused to stand! Bizarre! I felt like I had been punked by Ashton Kutcher or something.

The game had very few of the "distractions" that we've become used to between innings. Other than one acrobatic exhibition, and a few- t-shirt launchers, there was nothing. Very laid back, but noisy at the same time. The P.A. system was kind of garbled, so it was hard to understand the announcements. (Was that Vera Clemente throwing out the first pitch? I couldn't hear clearly enough to know for sure.)

Beer sales continued right up until the last out. Whatever policy MLB has regarding beer sales doesn't seem to apply in Puerto Rico. Either that, or the rule was simply flouted.

I had my first experience, either as a kid or as a parent, with the pre-game autograph ritual. Johan Santana was signing, and my daughter and I tryed to jockey our way close to him so that he could sign her orange Kids Club Mets cap. He bailed, though, before she got her turn. But then Pedro Feliciano came along, and she was in good position and was the third or fourth fan that he signed for. She was thrilled! I think Pedro Feliciano has a new fan.

That's it for now. Photos forthcoming...


Guest themetfairy
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Very cool BG - I'm glad you had such a great time (despite the results on the field)!

Enjoy the rest of your trip :)


Guest The Second Spitter
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:

In the last few days, as I've been around town (and around the island) in my Mets cap, I've had a few people approach me. One guy said that the Mets are the "team of Puerto Rico" and that might very well be. The crowd at the ballpark was definitely a Mets crowd; there were Mets caps and jerseys all over the place, and very little evidence of Marlins fans. (Except for Billy Marlin, who had his work cut out for him trying to get Mets fans to root for the Marlins. He only made a few quick appearances.)


Billy the Marlin should watch out - Fresh grilled marlin and chorizo with crabalaitos and corn salsa is a PR delicacy. I highly recommend you try it before you leave (if your diet permits, that is).It's yum.

Benjamin Grimm wrote:

I had my first experience, either as a kid or as a parent, with the pre-game autograph ritual. Johan Santana was signing, and my daughter and I tryed to jockey our way close to him so that he could sign her orange Kids Club Mets cap. He bailed, though, before she got her turn. But then Pedro Feliciano came along, and she was in good position and was the third or fourth fan that he signed for. She was thrilled! I think Pedro Feliciano has a new fan.


I'm happy for daughter but who is the new fan, you or your daughter?


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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Anyway, as the previous post more than hints, I'm in Puerto Rico right now, typing this from a hotel in Condado Beach (San Juan) with a balcony overlooking the ocean. When we checked in, our room wasn't ready, so they upgraded us (for free!) to a suite! Sweet!

I'll post photos in this thread when I get home. (We're attending the Monday and Tuesday games, but we're returning home on Wednesday afternoon.)

The retired numbers in the photo Edgy posted were nowhere to be seen last night, by the way.

There's a statue of Hiram Bithorn in front of the stadium, and, as I said above, one of Roberto Clemente in front of the hideous arena adjacent to Bithorn.

There was a very excited vibe in front of the stadium last night as we waited for the gates to open. Sort of a playoff atmosphere with a Caribbean flavor. A camera man was taking video of the throngs, and he zeroed in on me, in my Mets cap. I might have been on the local news last night, shouting YAHHHHHHHHHHH! into the camera. (I was trying to get into the spirit of the moment!)

In the last few days, as I've been around town (and around the island) in my Mets cap, I've had a few people approach me. One guy said that the Mets are the "team of Puerto Rico" and that might very well be. The crowd at the ballpark was definitely a Mets crowd; there were Mets caps and jerseys all over the place, and very little evidence of Marlins fans. (Except for Billy Marlin, who had his work cut out for him trying to get Mets fans to root for the Marlins. He only made a few quick appearances.)

Weirdest moment of the game, for me: After the Mets were out in the seventh, I stood up to stretch. I remembered something I used to do at Shea when I was a callow youth. I'd stand just a little before most of the other fans, and gesture for everyone else to stand. It made it seem like 50,000 people were following me lead. (A fun little thing to do.) Last night I stood, and realizing that I was the first one up, I had a little flashback and did the "up" gesture again.) Nobody stood. Nobody. The guys next to me, who didn't look or sound Puerto Rican and who were wearing Mets gear, looked at me like I was crazy. There was no seventh-inning stretch. It was like I had slipped into an alternate Fringe universe where nobody had ever heard of the seventh inning stretch. Even my wife and kids refused to stand! Bizarre! I felt like I had been punked by Ashton Kutcher or something.

The game had very few of the "distractions" that we've become used to between innings. Other than one acrobatic exhibition, and a few- t-shirt launchers, there was nothing. Very laid back, but noisy at the same time. The P.A. system was kind of garbled, so it was hard to understand the announcements. (Was that Vera Clemente throwing out the first pitch? I couldn't hear clearly enough to know for sure.)

Beer sales continued right up until the last out. Whatever policy MLB has regarding beer sales doesn't seem to apply in Puerto Rico. Either that, or the rule was simply flouted.

I had my first experience, either as a kid or as a parent, with the pre-game autograph ritual. Johan Santana was signing, and my daughter and I tryed to jockey our way close to him so that he could sign her orange Kids Club Mets cap. He bailed, though, before she got her turn. But then Pedro Feliciano came along, and she was in good position and was the third or fourth fan that he signed for. She was thrilled! I think Pedro Feliciano has a new fan.

That's it for now. Photos forthcoming...


Hey that's great. Bob the Chicken great.

The Lunches have Puerto Rico on the calendar for next spring.


Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
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Kick-ass, BG!

How's the stadium food?


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Fman99 wrote:
Good story BG. No "Take Me Out to the Ballgame?" Do the results even count at the end then?


On the second day, they did have a band atop the Marlins dugout playing Take Me Out to the Ballgame. But nobody was stretching, except for me and the guy sitting on my right. He's an upstate New Yorker who's in San Juan for a two-year project. I said, "Don't they stretch here?" and his weary answer was, "They do everything different down here."


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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
How's the stadium food?


Sucked. Not a whole lot of variety. The hot dog/burger concession was run by Fuddruckers, so I thought my burger would at least be of the quality you'd expect from a restaurant chain. (Houlihans, Fridays, etc.) But it was more like the kind you'd get at a bad backyard barbecue.

For Tuesday's game we ate before we went to the stadium. There's a big shopping mall across the street from Hiram Bithorn, and we got sandwiches and stuff at the food court. I had a Caribbean turkey platter from a place called La Vaca Frita.


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Frayed Knot wrote:
Keith said he's going to go check out Old San Juan today.
Go over there and maybe you can hang out with him.


Of all the Mets, I figured Keith would be the one I'd be most likely to run into in Old San Juan. We were there on Monday, though, and from what you say, Keith was there on Tuesday.

Oh well.


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