Predict the Mets, 2010

[metsmarathon]

i predict that after the first 90 wins, they call the season and hand us the trophy.












or, somewhat more realistically, 90 wins take an nl east dogfight that would bring a tear to michael vick's eye. they breeze into the world series and face some team other than the yankees, who finally realized just how old their damned core is, and win in 6 games.

[bmfc1]

SI has the Mets at 79-83 and 4th place.
Washington Post says 4th.
MLB.com says last place.

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100326&content_id=8955272&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Edited March 31, 2010 by Guest

[TransMonk]

bmfc1 wrote: SI has the Mets at 79-83 and 4th place.

Funny since they had virtually the same team winning the World Series last year.

[bmfc1]

Maybe this year's SI pick will be just as wrong as last year's.

[Ceetar]

Part of it is that managers --- and Manuel is a good example but he's hardly alone --- are so obsessed with getting a foolproof bullpen formula down that they are reluctant to resist going to the bullpen even when they don't need to. Just once, I'd like it to be: Devil on one shoulder: "Our guy made it through six and we have a three-run lead. We can go to our pen and shut them down." Angel on the other shoulder: "Fuck our pen. This guy is shutting them down and he's only thrown 81 pitches." Devil: "But we've been working so hard on getting the formula down." Angel: "This ISN'T ABOUT US!"

This is one of my bigger issues with Manuel. He goes through the bullpen like he's trying to find the guy that doesn't have it today. I look at bullpens mathematically. a good bullpen has 5/7 guys that will be successful on any given day. So the more you call in, the more chance you are of finding the 2/7. If you've only got a 4/7 bullpen, you better be better at managing them.

[Benjamin Grimm]

There's been so much talk about that SI prediction from last year (and I mean from the Mets and their players) that they should put a banner up at Citi Field:

2009
SPORTS
ILLUSTRATED
PREDICTED
WORLD
SERIES
CHAMPION

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ceetar wrote: This is one of my bigger issues with Manuel. He goes through the bullpen like he's trying to find the guy that doesn't have it today. I look at bullpens mathematically. a good bullpen has 5/7 guys that will be successful on any given day. So the more you call in, the more chance you are of finding the 2/7. If you've only got a 4/7 bullpen, you better be better at managing them.

Absolutely. The game shouldn't be playing well enough so you can confidently turn the game over to your pen. It should be playing well enough so you can stay out of your pen as long as possible and, when you must dip in to the pen, dipping in as shallowly as possible.

[Guest GYC]

bmfc1 wrote: Just the Mets: 1. Where they will finish in the NL East 2. What the final record will be 3. If you predict a wild card spot, say so 4. If you predict a playoff appearance, how far will they go?

1. 4th
2. 79-83
3. lol

[bmfc1]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/03/29/expert.picks/index.html

Why don't they just give the Phillies a bye until October?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I know!

Fork these losers for picking the two-time defending champs-- who've upgraded at the front of the rotation and 3B-- to win again!

[HahnSolo]

For the second day in a row, I have a Heyman observation: today he has picked two teams to win the world series.

SI is looking to hand Heyward the ROY now while they're at it.

[ashie62]

HahnSolo wrote: For the second day in a row, I have a Heyman observation: today he has picked two teams to win the world series. SI is looking to hand Heyward the ROY now while they're at it.

Heyward is certainly the designer pick for ROY in many places.

The Rockies are catching some love amongst the prognostigators.

If you are a contrarian be very happy the Mets are catching little or no love.

[TransMonk]

Expert picks are no better than yours or mine.

If their picks were anywhere close to right, it would make the baseball season pretty meaningless since we would find out in March who was gonna win in October.

[bmfc1]

The Forum's picks ranged from 4th place to a World Series Championship. The high was Fman99 with 124 wins (maybe he was high) and the low was Mex17 with 72. Here's to a great '10!

[TransMonk]

Here, here. I wish them the best...and hope we have meaningful games in October.

I think there would need to be total devastation for this season to be any worse than last season. For that reason alone I am excited about 2010, even if they finish 4th.

[bmfc1]

With one game to go and the Mets at 79 wins, it's between Chad Ochoseis (79 wins), GYC (79-wins) and Nymr83 (80 wins) for the win:

Finish Record Playoffs
Mex17 4th 72-90 no
Gfafif 4th 78-84 no
HahnSolo 3d 78-84 no
Chad Ochoseis 4th 79-83 no
GYC 4th 79-83 no
Nymr83 3d 80-82 no
bmfc1 3d 81-81 no
Benjamin Grimm 3d 83-79 no
LWFS 3d 84-78 no
attgig 2d (tied) 85-75 yes
TransMonk 2d 88-74 yes
metirish 2d 88-74 yes
Gwreck 1st 91-69 yes
JCL 1st 91-71 yes
Ceetar 1st 92-70 yes
seawolf17 1st 92-72 yes
Ashie62 1st 93-69 yes
Edgy DC 1st 107-55 yes
Fman99 1st 124-38 yes

Edited October 2, 2010 by Guest

[Benjamin Grimm]

Nice to be reminded, I guess, that I didn't go into this season with a lot of optimism.

[Willets Point]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Nice to be reminded, I guess, that I didn't go into this season with a lot of optimism.

Optimism and Grimm are two words that don't go together.

[Guest Edgy DC]

If you think about it, hewing close to 81-81 is simply the smart bet. Even smarter is probably picking the mean between 81 and the number of wins the team had the previous season.

[Fman99]

I am proud to be the wrongest one of this list.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Willets Point wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Nice to be reminded, I guess, that I didn't go into this season with a lot of optimism. Optimism and Grimm are two words that don't go together.

I'm optimistic when there's reason to be.

[metirish]

metirish wrote: 2nd place 88-74 playoffs via WC World Series Champs(sorry , couldn't help myself)

This is what I picked and not the 84-74 bmfc has me down for......I'd not want those that don't think I'm a moran to start thinking that way, it's not many but still.

[bmfc1]

metirish: fixed.

"Congrats" to Chad Ochoseis and GYC.

[G-Fafif]

Never thought I'd say this, but oh, if the Mets had lost just one more game...