Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune: Injuries 2010

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I don't mean to be one of those fans who presumes to know how to treat athlete injuries but sure seems like the Mets took a different approach to "Prevention & Recovery" when 4 games out vs. early in the year. Especially when it was clear that Compromised Reyes was nowhere hear the player Healthy Reyes was.

[ashie62]

Adam Rubin has Justin Turner coming up from the Bisons to NY in anticipation of a DL stint by Jose Reyes.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Went looking for that story only to find that Big Pelf is being pushed to Monday with neck stiffness.

Turner is en route but not clear that Reyes DL is the corresponding move?

[ashie62]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Went looking for that story only to find that Big Pelf is being pushed to Monday with neck stiffness. Turner is en route but not clear that Reyes DL is the corresponding move?

Rubin is speculating. I found it on Rotoworld.

[DocTee]

Turner up, Evans down.

[Ceetar]

DocTee wrote: Turner up, Evans down.

I was all for playing short for 5 or so days and hoping Reyes got better. but if he can't even play the field in an emergency (and swing righty and righty if he had to) then he shouldn't be on the roster right now.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Apparently, Omar learns this facet of roster management at the pace Jerry learns game-management lessons.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Apparently, Omar learns this facet of roster management at the pace Jerry learns game-management lessons.

Well, the decision would've been easier had Manuel not decided to play him injured.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Ceetar wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Apparently, Omar learns this facet of roster management at the pace Jerry learns game-management lessons. Well, the decision would've been easier had Manuel not decided to play him injured.

Indeed. Quite a team.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Apparently, Omar learns this facet of roster management at the pace Jerry learns game-management lessons. Well, the decision would've been easier had Manuel not decided to play him injured. Indeed. Quite a team.

The Mets penchant for keeping injured players on the roster and playing shorthanded is the front office correlate to Jerry's love of sacrifice bunting. It's as if the entire Mets organization has an aversion to prosperity and goes out of it's way to make things as difficult as possible.

[Willets Point]

Oliver Perez had a no-decision tonight pitching for Buffalo against the Gwinnett Braves. His line 6.2 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 7 K.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Sweeter.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Maine's done for the year... and possibly in blue-and-orange.

#Mets John Maine had arthroscopic surgery yesterday to clean out scar tissue in his right shoulder. =#008000]21 minutes ago via web

#Mets Maine is expected to be ready for Spring Training. =#008000]20 minutes ago via web

[Guest themetfairy]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Maine's done for the year... and possibly in blue-and-orange. #Mets John Maine had arthroscopic surgery yesterday to clean out scar tissue in his right shoulder. =#008000]21 minutes ago via web #Mets Maine is expected to be ready for Spring Training. =#008000]20 minutes ago via web

Damn - I really thought he was on the road back....

[Guest Edgy DC]

It's probably for the best. I had difficulty seeing how he'd come back at any meaningful level of effectiveness.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

After yesterday's strain, Throb may be headed DLward. (With three catchers and Ollie sucking up a 'pen spot, I don't understand how this is a "may" situation.)

[ashie62]

Maybe Thole can make the job his own. If the Mets fall out of it they can do the same thing at 2B with Tejada.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

The problem today was that Dickey was in Kershaw's hole, and it ended up straining things.

[Chad ochoseis]

Concerned that your D1ckey isn't working like it should? The Hospital for Special Surgery can help!

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Apparently, they'll take a look at your strained Rod as well.

BTW... this is sheer coincidence that the team's had three guys come down with oblique strains in the last four weeks, right?

[Willets Point]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: BTW... this is sheer coincidence that the team's had three guys come down with oblique strains in the last four weeks, right?

No coincidence at all. The Mets were playing too well for his dastardly plans, so Fred Wilpon hired a hit man who specializes in straining obliques.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Jenrry Mejia, throwing simulated games in St. Lucie.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

You can relax, stiffies: Dickey looks okay after yesterday's exam.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Bay suffered a concussion making that catch in Los Angeles, will miss the Cardinals series, perhaps beyond.

[Ceetar]

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2010/082010/08042010/566077/index_html?page=1

Very interesting article about John Maine, and how basically he's been pitching injured this entire time since the very first DL stint. Something about the arm angle in the MRI machine. Phillies doctors caught it, he had the surgery, and theoretically should actually be 'healed' now.

Still can't bring him back for anything but a minimum incentive-laden compete for a spot but might be depth type contract, but I did/do like Maine and hope he does get healthy again.

[Gwreck]

Ceetar wrote: Still can't bring him back for anything but a minimum incentive-laden compete for a spot but might be depth type contract

That's not an immediate option. He's arbitration eligible, which means he can't have his salary reduced more than a small percentage over what it was in 2010.

The Mets would have to non-tender Maine, allow him to become a free agent, assume no one else signs him, and then re-sign him to a minor league deal in May (?) of 2011.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Copy editors had the day off I see. Pelphrey!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Gwreck wrote: The Mets would have to non-tender Maine, allow him to become a free agent, assume no one else signs him, and then re-sign him to a minor league deal in May (?) of 2011.

Hmmm... you have me wondering. Is that May 1 thing applicable to non-tenders? Or just for guys who have the six or more years of service?

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Gwreck wrote: The Mets would have to non-tender Maine, allow him to become a free agent, assume no one else signs him, and then re-sign him to a minor league deal in May (?) of 2011. Hmmm... you have me wondering. Is that May 1 thing applicable to non-tenders? Or just for guys who have the six or more years of service?

What'd he make this year? 3 or so? probably too much for what's pretty much going to be a crapshoot.

[Frayed Knot]

That May 1st deadline doesn't apply anymore.
It used to be that if you cut ties with your own guy you were unable to sign him until May 1 while other teams could hook up with him at any time, but that clause has been removed.

So the first half of that is correct - that in order to get Maine at some greatly reduced price not determined under the threat of arbitration they'd have to cut him and allow him to be a FA.
But once they did they'd still have the same opportunity to pursue him as anyone else - unless he's pissed off in which case none of this matters.