Banners at Citi Field

[stevejrogers]

Should every October count?

Should just the two World Championships, or four NL Pennants be commemorated?

Or hell, should the Mets just keep forgetting their past and not even recount all seven Postseason apperances?

[soupcan]

Pennants and World Series only.

[Benjamin Grimm]

="soupcan":1bsataam]Pennants and World Series only.[/quote:1bsataam] That's my vote too.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 27 2009 12:55 PM

I wouldn't mind the place packed to the rafters with detritus from the WC seasons (not to mention the literal and figurative 88-74 seasons of all stripes). But I'm fine with the banners they've got hanging-- banners for playoff appearances feels like applauding having bought the lottery ticket.

HahnSolo Apr 27 2009 01:04 PM

="Benjamin Grimm":sulefge9] ="soupcan":sulefge9]Pennants and World Series only.[/quote:sulefge9] That's my vote too.[/quote:sulefge9] Me, too. The '88 NL East champ banner always brought back bad memories whenever I saw it. sharpie Apr 27 2009 01:05 PM I agree with everyone else. Pennants only. Gwreck Apr 27 2009 01:07 PM Right now they have the two WS flags and two NL Pennant flags flying. I would also be fine with flags for '88 and '06, personally. TransMonk Apr 27 2009 01:13 PM I don't care. The one I'm most concerned about is the theoretical 2009 banner. seawolf17 Apr 27 2009 01:18 PM I thought only the Yankees won championships. themetfairy Apr 27 2009 01:36 PM I loved that '99 team. I'd give 'em a banner. metsguyinmichigan Apr 27 2009 02:14 PM "Wild Card" banners seem kinda cheesey. Celebrating coming in second place never seemed proper. Nymr83 Apr 27 2009 02:20 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":ml3gqwpb]"Wild Card" banners seem kinda cheesey. Celebrating coming in second place never seemed proper.[/quote:ml3gqwpb] but those are the rules, i think you should either celebrate all playoff appearences with a banner or only celebrate going all the way. i prefer the former only because i'd rather see more acknowledgment of past mets teams than less. 86-Dreamer Apr 27 2009 02:29 PM I voted Pennants and World Series only; but I'd like to amend that to Division Titles, Pennants, and World Series. In other words, a banner for every "championship". Swan Swan H Apr 27 2009 02:37 PM That's where it gets sticky. Is winning a division and losing to the wild card team more bannerworthy than getting the wild card spot and winning the first round? I'd say no - advancement counts. Not to mention that tiebreakers are used to decide division winner vs. wild card if they are tied for the division and both have better records than the next wild card qualifier. This last happened, I believe, in the AL in 2005. Me, if you get in you hang up a banner. These days the goal is to get into the postseason and roll the dice from there, and I think making it should be celebrated. G-Fafif Apr 27 2009 02:42 PM I believe this poll was spurred by a piece I wrote last Flashback Friday[/url:1pvgrw1x] hoping all seven banners would be restored to some place of prominence. Given that the Mets have the precedent, I'd indeed like to see '88, '99 and '06 honored as they were at Shea. I particularly liked the '99 banner not just from a personal affinity for that season but because it would have seemed self-denying to not acknowledge on a going basis the events that gave us Pratt and Ventura (in particular) just because "WILD CARD & NLDS" was a little unwieldy. I'm a big fan of stuff that undeservedly falls down the memory hole. If we confine "history" to the pennant-winning years, more and more it is forgotten what a big deal, in their time, the years they just missed the World Series were. A nice marker signifying that yes, on these approximate grounds massive crowds gathered to cheer extracurricular baseball feats seems plenty appropriate and reasonably dignified. I can't see burying 1988, 1999 and 2006 just because they didn't go quite as far as 1969, 1973, 1986 and 2000. As i wrote last Friday, the most you can ask out of any regular season is to facilitate a postseason. All seven seasons did that. Long may they wave. Met Hunter Apr 27 2009 04:35 PM Three white pennants for World Championships and 2 dark (preferably blue) for NL pennants. That's it. (Oops, make that 2 white WS championship pennants. The third one was the Brooklyn Dodgers. I get so confused these days.) Gwreck May 26 2009 11:57 AM They finally got around to putting them up: soupcan May 26 2009 01:30 PM That seems like an odd location but whatever. Don't look now but New Ebbets Field is getting Metsmerized! Benjamin Grimm May 26 2009 01:43 PM Yeah, that is an odd location. You'd think they'd be where the fans in the seats could see them, and where the TV cameras could pick them up more easily. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2009 01:55 PM "My name is Tom Seaver, pitcher of pitchers: Look on my flags, ye Purchasers of Stolen Hubcaps, and despair!" G-Fafif May 26 2009 02:04 PM The Mets keep their memorabilia in their basement rumpus room. Did somebody insist "you're not putting that baseball crap of yours in my precious living room"? When one enters through the Rotunda and takes the escalator to field level, one can peek into the suite area concourse and glimpse a few of the blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year, that are there for the suite people to enjoy and tell you about if you bump into them on their way to their luxury cars afterwards. At PNC, FYI, there is a veritable courtyard of blown-up Topps cards of Pirates through the years. All are invited to look at them. seawolf17 May 26 2009 02:06 PM ="G-Fafif":1wiz6ldx]blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year[/quote:1wiz6ldx] Seriously? I need photographs, people. Photographs! Inspiration for the baseball card room! G-Fafif May 26 2009 02:08 PM ="seawolf17":6z98j76k] ="G-Fafif":6z98j76k]blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year[/quote:6z98j76k] Seriously? I need photographs, people. Photographs! Inspiration for the baseball card room![/quote:6z98j76k] Suite me and I'll photograph my and Lenny Dykstra's head off.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I wouldn't mind the place packed to the rafters with detritus from the WC seasons (not to mention the literal and figurative 88-74 seasons of all stripes). But I'm fine with the banners they've got hanging-- banners for playoff appearances feels like applauding having bought the lottery ticket.

[HahnSolo]

="Benjamin Grimm":sulefge9] ="soupcan":sulefge9]Pennants and World Series only.[/quote:sulefge9] That's my vote too.[/quote:sulefge9] Me, too. The '88 NL East champ banner always brought back bad memories whenever I saw it. sharpie Apr 27 2009 01:05 PM I agree with everyone else. Pennants only. Gwreck Apr 27 2009 01:07 PM Right now they have the two WS flags and two NL Pennant flags flying. I would also be fine with flags for '88 and '06, personally. TransMonk Apr 27 2009 01:13 PM I don't care. The one I'm most concerned about is the theoretical 2009 banner. seawolf17 Apr 27 2009 01:18 PM I thought only the Yankees won championships. themetfairy Apr 27 2009 01:36 PM I loved that '99 team. I'd give 'em a banner. metsguyinmichigan Apr 27 2009 02:14 PM "Wild Card" banners seem kinda cheesey. Celebrating coming in second place never seemed proper. Nymr83 Apr 27 2009 02:20 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":ml3gqwpb]"Wild Card" banners seem kinda cheesey. Celebrating coming in second place never seemed proper.[/quote:ml3gqwpb] but those are the rules, i think you should either celebrate all playoff appearences with a banner or only celebrate going all the way. i prefer the former only because i'd rather see more acknowledgment of past mets teams than less. 86-Dreamer Apr 27 2009 02:29 PM I voted Pennants and World Series only; but I'd like to amend that to Division Titles, Pennants, and World Series. In other words, a banner for every "championship". Swan Swan H Apr 27 2009 02:37 PM That's where it gets sticky. Is winning a division and losing to the wild card team more bannerworthy than getting the wild card spot and winning the first round? I'd say no - advancement counts. Not to mention that tiebreakers are used to decide division winner vs. wild card if they are tied for the division and both have better records than the next wild card qualifier. This last happened, I believe, in the AL in 2005. Me, if you get in you hang up a banner. These days the goal is to get into the postseason and roll the dice from there, and I think making it should be celebrated. G-Fafif Apr 27 2009 02:42 PM I believe this poll was spurred by a piece I wrote last Flashback Friday[/url:1pvgrw1x] hoping all seven banners would be restored to some place of prominence. Given that the Mets have the precedent, I'd indeed like to see '88, '99 and '06 honored as they were at Shea. I particularly liked the '99 banner not just from a personal affinity for that season but because it would have seemed self-denying to not acknowledge on a going basis the events that gave us Pratt and Ventura (in particular) just because "WILD CARD & NLDS" was a little unwieldy. I'm a big fan of stuff that undeservedly falls down the memory hole. If we confine "history" to the pennant-winning years, more and more it is forgotten what a big deal, in their time, the years they just missed the World Series were. A nice marker signifying that yes, on these approximate grounds massive crowds gathered to cheer extracurricular baseball feats seems plenty appropriate and reasonably dignified. I can't see burying 1988, 1999 and 2006 just because they didn't go quite as far as 1969, 1973, 1986 and 2000. As i wrote last Friday, the most you can ask out of any regular season is to facilitate a postseason. All seven seasons did that. Long may they wave. Met Hunter Apr 27 2009 04:35 PM Three white pennants for World Championships and 2 dark (preferably blue) for NL pennants. That's it. (Oops, make that 2 white WS championship pennants. The third one was the Brooklyn Dodgers. I get so confused these days.) Gwreck May 26 2009 11:57 AM They finally got around to putting them up: soupcan May 26 2009 01:30 PM That seems like an odd location but whatever. Don't look now but New Ebbets Field is getting Metsmerized! Benjamin Grimm May 26 2009 01:43 PM Yeah, that is an odd location. You'd think they'd be where the fans in the seats could see them, and where the TV cameras could pick them up more easily. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2009 01:55 PM "My name is Tom Seaver, pitcher of pitchers: Look on my flags, ye Purchasers of Stolen Hubcaps, and despair!" G-Fafif May 26 2009 02:04 PM The Mets keep their memorabilia in their basement rumpus room. Did somebody insist "you're not putting that baseball crap of yours in my precious living room"? When one enters through the Rotunda and takes the escalator to field level, one can peek into the suite area concourse and glimpse a few of the blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year, that are there for the suite people to enjoy and tell you about if you bump into them on their way to their luxury cars afterwards. At PNC, FYI, there is a veritable courtyard of blown-up Topps cards of Pirates through the years. All are invited to look at them. seawolf17 May 26 2009 02:06 PM ="G-Fafif":1wiz6ldx]blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year[/quote:1wiz6ldx] Seriously? I need photographs, people. Photographs! Inspiration for the baseball card room! G-Fafif May 26 2009 02:08 PM ="seawolf17":6z98j76k] ="G-Fafif":6z98j76k]blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year[/quote:6z98j76k] Seriously? I need photographs, people. Photographs! Inspiration for the baseball card room![/quote:6z98j76k] Suite me and I'll photograph my and Lenny Dykstra's head off.

[Guest sharpie]

I agree with everyone else. Pennants only.

[Gwreck]

Right now they have the two WS flags and two NL Pennant flags flying.

I would also be fine with flags for '88 and '06, personally.

[TransMonk]

I don't care.

The one I'm most concerned about is the theoretical 2009 banner.

[seawolf17]

I thought only the Yankees won championships.

[Guest themetfairy]

I loved that '99 team. I'd give 'em a banner.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

"Wild Card" banners seem kinda cheesey. Celebrating coming in second place never seemed proper.

[nymr83]

="metsguyinmichigan":ml3gqwpb]"Wild Card" banners seem kinda cheesey. Celebrating coming in second place never seemed proper.[/quote:ml3gqwpb] but those are the rules, i think you should either celebrate all playoff appearences with a banner or only celebrate going all the way. i prefer the former only because i'd rather see more acknowledgment of past mets teams than less.

86-Dreamer Apr 27 2009 02:29 PM

I voted Pennants and World Series only; but I'd like to amend that to Division Titles, Pennants, and World Series. In other words, a banner for every "championship".

Swan Swan H Apr 27 2009 02:37 PM

That's where it gets sticky. Is winning a division and losing to the wild card team more bannerworthy than getting the wild card spot and winning the first round? I'd say no - advancement counts. Not to mention that tiebreakers are used to decide division winner vs. wild card if they are tied for the division and both have better records than the next wild card qualifier. This last happened, I believe, in the AL in 2005. Me, if you get in you hang up a banner. These days the goal is to get into the postseason and roll the dice from there, and I think making it should be celebrated.

G-Fafif Apr 27 2009 02:42 PM

I believe this poll was spurred by a piece I wrote last Flashback Friday[/url:1pvgrw1x] hoping all seven banners would be restored to some place of prominence. Given that the Mets have the precedent, I'd indeed like to see '88, '99 and '06 honored as they were at Shea. I particularly liked the '99 banner not just from a personal affinity for that season but because it would have seemed self-denying to not acknowledge on a going basis the events that gave us Pratt and Ventura (in particular) just because "WILD CARD & NLDS" was a little unwieldy. I'm a big fan of stuff that undeservedly falls down the memory hole. If we confine "history" to the pennant-winning years, more and more it is forgotten what a big deal, in their time, the years they just missed the World Series were. A nice marker signifying that yes, on these approximate grounds massive crowds gathered to cheer extracurricular baseball feats seems plenty appropriate and reasonably dignified. I can't see burying 1988, 1999 and 2006 just because they didn't go quite as far as 1969, 1973, 1986 and 2000. As i wrote last Friday, the most you can ask out of any regular season is to facilitate a postseason. All seven seasons did that. Long may they wave.

Met Hunter Apr 27 2009 04:35 PM

Three white pennants for World Championships and 2 dark (preferably blue) for NL pennants. That's it. (Oops, make that 2 white WS championship pennants. The third one was the Brooklyn Dodgers. I get so confused these days.)

Gwreck May 26 2009 11:57 AM

They finally got around to putting them up:

soupcan May 26 2009 01:30 PM

That seems like an odd location but whatever. Don't look now but New Ebbets Field is getting Metsmerized!

Benjamin Grimm May 26 2009 01:43 PM

Yeah, that is an odd location. You'd think they'd be where the fans in the seats could see them, and where the TV cameras could pick them up more easily.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2009 01:55 PM

"My name is Tom Seaver, pitcher of pitchers: Look on my flags, ye Purchasers of Stolen Hubcaps, and despair!"

G-Fafif May 26 2009 02:04 PM

The Mets keep their memorabilia in their basement rumpus room. Did somebody insist "you're not putting that baseball crap of yours in my precious living room"? When one enters through the Rotunda and takes the escalator to field level, one can peek into the suite area concourse and glimpse a few of the blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year, that are there for the suite people to enjoy and tell you about if you bump into them on their way to their luxury cars afterwards. At PNC, FYI, there is a veritable courtyard of blown-up Topps cards of Pirates through the years. All are invited to look at them.

seawolf17 May 26 2009 02:06 PM

="G-Fafif":1wiz6ldx]blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year[/quote:1wiz6ldx] Seriously? I need photographs, people. Photographs! Inspiration for the baseball card room! G-Fafif May 26 2009 02:08 PM ="seawolf17":6z98j76k] ="G-Fafif":6z98j76k]blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year[/quote:6z98j76k] Seriously? I need photographs, people. Photographs! Inspiration for the baseball card room![/quote:6z98j76k] Suite me and I'll photograph my and Lenny Dykstra's head off.

[Guest 86-Dreamer]

I voted Pennants and World Series only; but I'd like to amend that to Division Titles, Pennants, and World Series. In other words, a banner for every "championship".

[Guest Swan Swan H]

That's where it gets sticky. Is winning a division and losing to the wild card team more bannerworthy than getting the wild card spot and winning the first round? I'd say no - advancement counts.

Not to mention that tiebreakers are used to decide division winner vs. wild card if they are tied for the division and both have better records than the next wild card qualifier. This last happened, I believe, in the AL in 2005.

Me, if you get in you hang up a banner. These days the goal is to get into the postseason and roll the dice from there, and I think making it should be celebrated.

[G-Fafif]

I believe this poll was spurred by a piece I wrote last Flashback Friday[/url:1pvgrw1x] hoping all seven banners would be restored to some place of prominence. Given that the Mets have the precedent, I'd indeed like to see '88, '99 and '06 honored as they were at Shea. I particularly liked the '99 banner not just from a personal affinity for that season but because it would have seemed self-denying to not acknowledge on a going basis the events that gave us Pratt and Ventura (in particular) just because "WILD CARD & NLDS" was a little unwieldy.

I'm a big fan of stuff that undeservedly falls down the memory hole. If we confine "history" to the pennant-winning years, more and more it is forgotten what a big deal, in their time, the years they just missed the World Series were. A nice marker signifying that yes, on these approximate grounds massive crowds gathered to cheer extracurricular baseball feats seems plenty appropriate and reasonably dignified. I can't see burying 1988, 1999 and 2006 just because they didn't go quite as far as 1969, 1973, 1986 and 2000.

As i wrote last Friday, the most you can ask out of any regular season is to facilitate a postseason. All seven seasons did that. Long may they wave.

[Met Hunter]

Three white pennants for World Championships and 2 dark (preferably blue) for NL pennants. That's it.

(Oops, make that 2 white WS championship pennants. The third one was the Brooklyn Dodgers. I get so confused these days.)

[Gwreck]

They finally got around to putting them up:

[soupcan]

That seems like an odd location but whatever.

Don't look now but New Ebbets Field is getting Metsmerized!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, that is an odd location. You'd think they'd be where the fans in the seats could see them, and where the TV cameras could pick them up more easily.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

"My name is Tom Seaver, pitcher of pitchers:
Look on my flags, ye Purchasers of Stolen Hubcaps, and despair!"

[G-Fafif]

The Mets keep their memorabilia in their basement rumpus room. Did somebody insist "you're not putting that baseball crap of yours in my precious living room"?

When one enters through the Rotunda and takes the escalator to field level, one can peek into the suite area concourse and glimpse a few of the blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year, that are there for the suite people to enjoy and tell you about if you bump into them on their way to their luxury cars afterwards. At PNC, FYI, there is a veritable courtyard of blown-up Topps cards of Pirates through the years. All are invited to look at them.

[seawolf17]

="G-Fafif":1wiz6ldx]blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year[/quote:1wiz6ldx] Seriously? I need photographs, people. Photographs! Inspiration for the baseball card room!

G-Fafif May 26 2009 02:08 PM

="seawolf17":6z98j76k] ="G-Fafif":6z98j76k]blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year[/quote:6z98j76k] Seriously? I need photographs, people. Photographs! Inspiration for the baseball card room![/quote:6z98j76k] Suite me and I'll photograph my and Lenny Dykstra's head off.

[G-Fafif]

="seawolf17":6z98j76k] ="G-Fafif":6z98j76k]blown-up Topps cards, one Met per year[/quote:6z98j76k] Seriously? I need photographs, people. Photographs! Inspiration for the baseball card room![/quote:6z98j76k] Suite me and I'll photograph my and Lenny Dykstra's head off.