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According to a report in the Daily News, Ambiorix Burgos was arrested this morning for beating up his girlfriend at a hotel near Shea Stadium. According to the story, �he repeatedly punched her on the back, bit her and slapped her.�

Burgos will be arraigned today in Queens on assault and harassment charges.


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What a loooser. Release his sorry butt.


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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Bobby Parnell would never beat up his girlfriend.


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"NOW" in capial letters should be followed by four exclamation points, neither more nor less.

-- Crane Pool Manual of Style, p. 14.


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His only Met win was that come-from-behind day game against the Cubs last year. I was at that game. Also at Kane Davis' only Met win (the blue tarp lounge game).


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metirish wrote:
We sponsor him , oh dear.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/burgoam01.shtml

Hey, what's this "we" stuff?

At least maybe we'll get some visitors out of it.


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Side question:

Does a baseball organization promoting its closer as a thing from Hell singularly bent on destroying the hopes of quivering mortals, and sometimes perhaps coaching them to assume a mentality similar to that profile, lead to closers and would-be closers being disproportionately represented in the roles of baseballers accused of domestic abuse?

Discuss.


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AG/DC wrote:
"a baseball organization promoting its closer as a thing from Hell singularly bent on destroying the hopes of quivering mortals"


Is that what the Sandman thing is about? I never got that, by the way. And if fact, I had never even seen/heard the Sandman to-do until this July, when I attended a Billy Wagner save opportunity against Colorado at Shea.

My seven-year-old daughter, watching the DiamondVision spectacle, said, "What's the big deal about Billy Wagner?"


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I'm surprised Burgos had enough control to land any punches where he aimed them.

I don't mean to make light of the situation. He is every bit the loser Brett Myers is.


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Now, as I learned today in jury duty, the accused is considered innocent until proven guilty.

Then again, I didn't get picked for the trial. Dump 'em!


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soupcan wrote:
="themetfairy"]Idiot


Who? Burgos or irish for sponsoring him?


Burgos. I can't fault Irish for wanting to sponsor a young Met.


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Centerfield wrote:
I'm surprised Burgos had enough control to land any punches where he aimed them.

Bravo.


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AG/DC wrote:
Side question:

Does a baseball organization promoting its closer as a thing from Hell singularly bent on destroying the hopes of quivering mortals, and sometimes perhaps coaching them to assume a mentality similar to that profile, lead to closers and would-be closers being disproportionately represented in the roles of baseballers accused of domestic abuse?
Discuss.


Other than Burgos, do you have any other examples?

Aside from not knowing exactly how much electricity his contracter was installing has Mariano Rivera done anything other than be darn close to a man of the cloth as a married man can be?

Do you see John Franco as a country boy who never ever learned to read or write so well, but play the guitar just like ringin a bell?


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I don't understand what you're getting at. Did I say anything about Mariano Rivera or anybody specifically?

Do I have other examples of relievers involved implicated in spousal assault cases? Yes!

Do I know if it's disproportionate from the rest of the baseball population? No!

That's why I invited discussion.


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AG/DC wrote:
I don't understand what you're getting at. Did I say anything about Mariano Rivera or anybody specifically?

Do I have other examples of relievers involved implicated in spousal assault cases? Yes!

Do I know if it's disproportionate from the rest of the baseball population? No!

That's why I invited discussion.


The song that Billy Wagner/Mariano Rivera come out to is not a reflection on how they conduct themselves. Okay, Wagner talks out of his rear, but we haven't heard a peep about him striking family members, or others.

What song did Donnie Moore come out to? I don't think his pitching coaches ever told him to be a "killer" out on the mound.

Conversley, Rich Gossage and Al Harbowsky perfected the "killer" look out on the mound, neither of them ever got into off the field spousal incidents.


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Let me ask again. Did I say anything about Mariano Rivera or anybody specifically?


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Okay fine. No, in my opinion, the fact that closers use "Enter Sandman" and the fact that closers are bred to be stone cold killers on the mound is not a predictor of off the field behavior.

We are still talking about baseball, easily the least violent of the major team sports.


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Which also is beside the point.


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AG/DC wrote:
Which also is beside the point.


I thought I was answering this question.

]Does a baseball organization promoting its closer as a thing from Hell singularly bent on destroying the hopes of quivering mortals, and sometimes perhaps coaching them to assume a mentality similar to that profile, lead to closers and would-be closers being disproportionately represented in the roles of baseballers accused of domestic abuse?


I'll give you that other than guys that bat cleanup, that is the position on a team that can have that mentality, I don't think its the reason closers and would-be closers are being disproportionately represented in the roles of baseballers accused of domestic abuse.

Hell, I'm not even sure if that mentality can be taught at the big league level. Its an "Either you got it, or you don't." situation.


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