The Trade Deadline...

[stevejrogers]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Oh, and the Ken Jr. trade is official.

I'm sorry, I gotta say it:

OH MY GOD, THEY TRADED KENNY!

YOU BASTARDS!

[metirish]

SteveJRogers wrote: ="metsguyinmichigan"] Oh, and the Ken Jr. trade is official. I'm sorry, I gotta say it: OH MY GOD, THEY TRADED KENNY! YOU BASTARDS!

I don't get it.

[Gwreck]

If nothing else, it's nice to have Bay, Nady and Marte off the Pirates when we play our remaining 4 games against them.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

metirish wrote: ="SteveJRogers"] ="metsguyinmichigan"] Oh, and the Ken Jr. trade is official. I'm sorry, I gotta say it: OH MY GOD, THEY TRADED KENNY! YOU BASTARDS! I don't get it.

South Park reference.

I'm a little surprised by the deal. Junior is still Mr. Cincy. There are all kinds of things dedicated to him at that stadium, including a giant home run tote board.

They'll retire his number before long.

[seawolf17]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: None of this applies to the Hostess version with the thin chocolate icing with the white curley-ques on top, and "cream" filling.

Now I have to stop at the grocery store on the way home. Ass.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

seawolf17 wrote: ="metsguyinmichigan"]None of this applies to the Hostess version with the thin chocolate icing with the white curley-ques on top, and "cream" filling. Now I have to stop at the grocery store on the way home. Ass.

Later.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ken Rosenthal now confirms the Mets pursuit of Ayala, adding that the Mets would surrender "a low level prospect" in return.

Hard to imagine this deal would take so long that a half dozen reporters know about it before its complete.

[metirish]

Manny to Dodgers is now the hot one.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

Vince Coleman Firecracker wrote: Jason Bay to the Rays for Reid Brignac and Jeff Niemann. Good move for the Pirates, and the Rays get a lot better this year.

http://minors.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/bay_not_a_ray_yet.html

Now maybe not. Interesting fact: Jason Bay's middle name is Raymond. Jay Ray Bay.

[Guest AG/DC]

Well, you can call me Jay.

Or you can call me Ray.

Or you can call me Jay Ray.

Or you can call me Ray Bay. ...

[metirish]

It's 4:04 do you know where your players are?

[Frayed Knot]

"Interesting fact: Jason Bay's middle name is Raymond. Jay Ray Bay"

So it's Jay Ray Bay, who may or may not be a T-Bay Ray.

[G-Fafif]

You can call him Bay
You can call him Ray
But ya doesn't have to call him Pirate

[Centerfield]

Bay to the Rays is a nay.

[G-Fafif]

Ya apparently have to call him Pirate.

[G-Fafif]

Or not -- Bay becomes a Red Sock as part of Manny to Dodgers drama.

Still doesn't have to call him Johnson.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

Dodgers have now added Juan Pierre, Andruw Jones, and Manny in the last two seasons. They really loves fucking with Matt Kemp and Eithier.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

This has been the greaatest trade deadline season in baseball history, and the Mets didn't even play.

How many All-Stars and Future HOFers moved?

[Guest AG/DC]

Holla Famers:

Manny, Griffey, Ivan Rodriguez. CC, Maybe.

[smg58]

So the Dodgers get Manny and convince the Red Sox to fork over two of the four young players (including Craig Hansen) in the package the Pirates are getting. And the Rays get the rug swept out from under them. Unfortunately I think the Yankees are even bigger winners than the Dodgers on this one.

Andruw Jones is going to be an awfully expensive reserve, though.

[Guest attgig]

pirates got a great package of young/cheap players for jason bay. good for them.

[Guest AG/DC]

He already is, anyhow. Do you realize his OPS+ is 36?!

I think the Dodgers send him and billion dollars to Houston for PTBNL.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

smg58 wrote: Unfortunately I think the Yankees are even bigger winners than the Dodgers on this one.

Hate to say it but the MFYs did very well for themselves this time around. Apparently the Pudge deal was suggested by Pudge himself -- he wasn't going to start allatime anymore and apparently had become the kinda douche who looks for a trade to the MFYs -- but it's a fun thrill to see a midseason trade not involving a team that sucks. Detroit & the MFYs could be the last 2 WC contenders easily.

[seawolf17]

How the hell did the Pirates wind up with four good young players for Jason Bay? That's great work by them.

[Guest AG/DC]

Yup. The sons of Jason Bay will long outlive him.

[Valadius]

I can't believe we didn't make a move. Ryan Church better come back soon.

[metirish]

I'm a bit surprised Minaya didn't make a move but I am glad that he didn't part with any significant kids for the likes of Alaya and I guess Seattle were asking for a lot for the players they were rumored to trade to various teams.

[nymr83]

Seattle, a team with no playoff hopes at all, is still holding Raul Ibanez (36 y/o and a free agent at year's end) and Jarrod Washburn (33 and an overpaid innings-eater), they've got to be considered big losers today.

[Guest AG/DC]

Curt Schilling has offered Jason Bay State his number 38 in exchange for a donation.

Super important stats: Bay is hitting .421 lifetime (8-19) against Andy Pettitte, .429 (3-7) against Mike Mussina and .500 (1-2) against Joba Chamberlain.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

We can only hope that Jason Bay will continue his mastery of Yankee pitching, but the small sample sizes involved really don't prove very much other than he's had a few good games against those in the past. As they say in investing prospectuses, past performance is not necessarily an indication of future performance.

Still, I think the Pirates did well in this deal depending on the future development of the prospects they acquired. Boston should be okay, they lose a great hitter that had become a headache and distraction in the clubhouse, but acquire a younger slugger to replace at a far lower price in the years to come. I think the Red Sox should come out all right. The Dodgers get Manny for virtually nothing (financially) this year, but have invested heavily in an aging future HOFer in hopes that his hitting, already poor fielding, and attitude do not diminish too much further in the future. Ramirez may make this ultimately look like a great deal for the Dodgers, but I doubt it.