The Trade Deadline...

[Benjamin Grimm]

...is just six days away.

My guess is that the Mets won't make a significant deal. But if they do, they'll pay dearly for either Bay or Nady.

[seawolf17]

Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte to the Yanks for Ross Ohlendorf, Jose Tabata, and two other guys.

[Guest themetfairy]

seawolf17 wrote: Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte to the Yanks for Ross Ohlendorf, Jose Tabata, and two other guys.

Tabata leaves the Trenton Thunder less than 4 weeks before Jose Tabata Bobblehead Night.

[seawolf17]

Hope they haven't ordered them yet. Maybe they can trade them to the Altoona Curve for a bobblehead to be named later.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Jeez I thought that trade was a joke. It's not Nady to the MFYs.

Geez.

[seawolf17]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Jeez I thought that trade was a joke. It's not Nady to the MFYs. Geez.

No, it is.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3505686

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I can imagine the conversation...

X, I have good news and bad news.

Good news is you are headed to New York.

Bad new is that you are a Yankee.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

seawolf17 wrote: ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Jeez I thought that trade was a joke. It's not Nady to the MFYs. Geez. No, it is. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3505686

Yeah, it is. Bad punctuation on my part.

Mothereffer. I was scared of the Mets getting Nady because he seemed like a guy who wouldn't live up to massive expectations. Like, he'd become some kinda mythical force that made the early 06 Mets so magic. Now... welll. Fuck.

MFYs won 1-0 over the Sox tonite too.

[Fman99]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I can imagine the conversation... X, I have good news and bad news. Good news is you are headed to New York. Bad new is that you are a Yankee.

I caught part of an interview he was doing on XM just this afternoon. They were talking about the possibility of a trade and he was pretty realistic about it, knowing he was likely to be dealt.

[Guest AG/DC]

I always live in the hope the Yankees management overmythologizes --- and overpays and overplays --- ex-Mets also.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah, brightside analysis:

He's playing way over his head, and sticking him in left field in MFY stadium (with Abreu in right) is begging for blooper reels. You hope the Pirate scouts see the good in these pups the MFYs can't. Tabata, I know, was very well regarded just recently.

[metsmarathon]

too bad. i used to like nady.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Nady deserved better.

[Elster88]

I would've loved to have Nady back. Even if he's not really a .325 hitter, he's a nice player. Definitely an upgrade over the Chavez/Anderson/Evans/Tatis combo.

[Frayed Knot]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: [Nady is] playing way over his head, and sticking him in left field in MFY stadium (with Abreu in right) is begging for blooper reels.

Yeah, if we want to stick with the bright-side anlysis we can note how some fans have a short memory of how shaky an OFer X-man was, or that this season's OPS (918) looks flukeish next to previous years of .761 (2006) & .806 (2007). But he's only 29 (30 in Nov) and maybe THIS becomes his norm for a while and it's not like he's suddenly going to turn the MFY OF defense into something is already isn't.

]You hope the Pirate scouts see the good in these pups the MFYs can't. Tabata, I know, was very well regarded just recently.

'Was' being the operative word here.
Tabata was often paired with Fartinez by the scouts 'n touts crowd: same age, large bonus signee, similar skills. The Yanx didn't run him up the ladder as quickly as the Mets did with FM but he was still doing OK swimming in a pool with older kids. But his star has taken a big hit in the last year as he seemed to stall out and display a total lack of power. Now he also had a wrist injury which maybe had something to do with it and he's still young enough to turn things around, but he also had some discipline problems and wasn't near the top of the MFY system anymore.

Ohlendorf has some potential I guess but turns 26 next week and is pretty much a reliever. Meanwhile I've never heard of either pitcher. The LHP (Coke) has some decent AA numbers but he's[i/] already 26. At least the RHP (Kontos) is only 22.

Def helps the MFYs in the short-term and probably doesn't burn them long-term. Doesn't sound to me like the "steep asking price" we've heard teams have been asking for these OFers.

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

Ugh. This didn't cost the Yanks anywhere near what I thought it would. A couple of guys closer to 30 than high school who are still labelled "prospects" and Tabata, who I've read the organiztion was really down on, and I never thought would play in the majors for them.

I'm guessing the Pirates are still as high on Tabata as everyone else was at the beginning of this season, when he was thought of as roughly the equivalent of Fernando Martinez. Which means the Pirates probably asked Omar for F-Mart plus multiple pitchers (Owen? Gee? Heilman?). If that's the case, good move not to make. I just wish someone would put a real hurting on the Yanks in one of these trades.

[Theoldmole]

With me it's simple. I just hate the MFYs getting Nady.

[Fman99]

It's the same load of garbage that the Phillies took for Abreu two years ago.

Some of these GM's are just dopes, I must conclude.

[metirish]

Weren't the Twins asking for Ohlendorf and Tabata as part of a deal for Santana and the the Yankees wouldn't part with them , that was a deal breaker IIRC.

[Gwreck]

Yes. One of the talking heads on SNY was saying that the Yankees could have had Santana last year for Ohlendorf, Tabata and Ian Kennedy.

[soupcan]

Reported on FAN this morning - Dan Karstens and Jeff McCutchens replace the other two no-name minor leaguers and join Tabata in Pittsburgh.

Don't know how highly regarded those guys are but hopefully that hurts the Yankees more.

[MFS62]

="soupcan"]Reported on FAN this morning - Dan Karstens and Jeff McCutchens replace the other two no-name minor leaguers and join Tabata in Pittsburgh. Don't know how highly regarded those guys are but hopefully that hurts the Yankees more.

Is that the same player as Jeff Karstens, who has pitched in several games for the Yanks over the past few years?

EDIT: additional thought. The original trade looked so imbalanced that the Yanks felt the Pirate GM already had enough coke.

Later

[Frayed Knot]

Fman99 wrote: It's the same load of garbage that the Phillies took for Abreu two years ago. Some of these GM's are just dopes, I must conclude.

It's not that bad. The Phils accepted virtually nothing for Abreu when the Yanx agreed to take on the remaining salary.
Nady is relatively cheap and didn't NEED to be moved. Plus with that update in the pitchers dealt it doesn't look as lopsided. Pitt didn't get anything SURE to help them, but at least they got several pieces that might.

[Guest AG/DC]

If the Yankees want to regulary take well performing players from our National League competitors in exchange for future interests that doesn't mature, pay these players for the superior performances they logged years earlier, and still fail to win pennants, I'm good with that.

[Benjamin Grimm]

David Lennon in Newsday wrote: The Mets' strategy of waiting until the final minutes of next Thursday's 4 p.m. trade deadline to secure an outfielder seemed like a good plan 24 hours ago. Now? Not so much. The Pirates shipped Xavier Nady -- and lefty reliever Damaso Marte! -- to the Yankees late Friday for a total of four prospects. And in the past few hours, the Indians and Dodgers agreed on a deal that sent Casey Blake to LA for two minor-leaguers. Believe it or not, the Mets weren't too high on either Nady or Marte, or so they were saying after Friday's impressive 7-2 win over the Cardinals. As for Blake, it appears that Cleveland got a pair of decent prospects in return, and probably better than what the Mets had on the table. raul.jpg Could the Mariners' Raul Ibanez be next? He seems like the guy the Mets have been targeting all along, as we mention in this morning's Newsday, so don't be surprised if they swing a deal for him in the very near future. At this rate, the Mets really can't afford to be patient much longer.

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

Looks like the Cubs are bidding against the Mets for Ibanez. I say let him go and check out Adam Dunn.

[Frayed Knot]

The Pads are trying to deal Greg Maddux but he won't leave the west coast (he already blocked a potential Philly deal) and the Dodgers & Pads can't seem to agree on a package so he's probably staying.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Seven hours till deadline.

I'm not expecting a move from the Mets.

[Guest AG/DC]

Expect the Mets.

[soupcan]

Jon Heyman on FAN says Griffey, Jr. to the White Sox is a done deal.