Pedro at a Cockfight

[Valadius]

]Video posted of Mets pitcher Pedro Martinez and Hall of Famer Juan Marichal at cockfight By The Associated Press February 7, 2008 A video of New York Mets pitcher Pedro Martinez and Hall of Famer Juan Marichal at a cockfight was posted this week on YouTube. Martinez and Marichal laugh before releasing the roosters. The two took part as honorary "soltadores," the word used to describe the person who puts the animal to fight. The animal released by Martinez appears to be killed on the video, which was posted Tuesday. The fight takes place in the Coliseo de Gallos (Rooster Coliseum) in Santo Domingo, the Dominican Republic's biggest cockfighting venue. Cockfighting is legal and popular in the Dominican Republic. By early Thursday, the video was removed "due to terms of use violation."

[Benjamin Grimm]

Disappointing, but it's a cultural thing. And as someone who had chicken for dinner last night, I can't be casting any stones here.

[metirish]

I've no problem with it.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

I find cruely to animals is repugnant. I doubt that Pedro Martinez, Juan Marichal, or anyone else in attendance of the cockfights had the slain rooster(s) for dinner.

[Guest AG/DC]

I sure like Pedro's gardening hobby better.

I'm switching my vote on the opening day starter to Santana.

[metsmarathon]

if pedro's going to be doing things that i find repugnant, at least he has the decency to do them in nations where it is both legal and culturally accepted.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Did you see the video? Maracial's chicken pulled out a bat and finished Pedro's off.

[Frayed Knot]

I liked the real high leg kick on Marichal's chicken.

[Guest AG/DC]

They're roosters, you eejit.

[Guest attgig]

metsmarathon wrote: if pedro's going to be doing things that i find repugnant, at least he has the decency to do them in nations where it is both legal and culturally accepted.

thumbs up

context is a bitch.

[Willets Point]

The question is, did Pedro grab the cock by the head and throw him to the ground?

[Guest AG/DC]

You know, if I'm looking for Mets content on youtube, and I see a link titled "Cockfight with Pedro Martinez and Juan Marichal," I'm just a little bit afraid to click the link.

[HahnSolo]

]The fight takes place in the Coliseo de Gallos (Rooster Coliseum) in Santo Domingo, the Dominican Republic's biggest cockfighting venue. Cockfighting is legal and popular in the Dominican Republic.

There's something quite breezy, casual, and funny about how they wrote this. Almost like it came from page 1 of the Santo Domingo Chamber of Commerce's brochure.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Did you see the video? Maracial's chicken pulled out a bat and finished Pedro's off.

Bad ass!

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Now anybody who complains about the name "Citi Field" can look to "Rooster Stadium" and realize we didn't do that poorly after all!

[Farmer Ted]

I would have predicted Jose Valentin and his porn 'stache to be seen at a cock fight.

[soupcan]

As printed in the New York Post


WILD PITCH:Pedro Martinez and Juan
Marichal throw their roosters into the ring...


...and seem to genuinely enjoy the blood sport.


PLUCKED:Pedro's fighting rooster appears
to have been killed.

[Guest AG/DC]

So, somebody's bound to ask why Michael Vick goes to jail --- indeed, was cut loose by his team very early in the legal process --- and Pedro continues to pitch.

[seawolf17]

Most likely because what he did was illegal, and what Pedro did wasn't.

[Methead]

Cockfighting on astroturf. I had no idea.

All I have in my yard is a small ring filled with sawdust. Astroturf would last a lot longer, and look better too.

[Guest AG/DC]

seawolf17 wrote: Most likely because what he did was illegal, and what Pedro did wasn't.

(Devil's advocate)Understood, but the key difference there is jurisdiction. That should matter to a DA, but should it matter to a team?(/Devil's advocate)

[Benjamin Grimm]

seawolf17 wrote: Most likely because what he did was illegal, and what Pedro did wasn't.

Yeah, and people don't love chickens the way they love dogs.

I think cockfighting is cruel and awful and I wish it wouldn't happen. But as someone who eats chicken, and therefore patronizes an industry that surely conducts all kinds of cruelty to chickens and other poultry, I can't really say a whole lot about this.

[metsmarathon]

if michael vick was running his dogfighting operation in a nation where it was both legal and culturally accepted, he would be gainfully employed by a football team today. unfortunately for him, he chose to do so in one where it is rather illegal, and widely unaccepted, and managed to violate both federal and state statutes in the process.

[Guest AG/DC]

Surely we all acknowledge there's a self-serving logic here.

[seawolf17]

Yes, absolutely... but if Pedro was caught beating his kids, or electrocuting people in his pool, or murdering people after getting into car accidents, then we'd come down on him like we would on any other player.

[metsmarathon]

AG/DC wrote: ="seawolf17"]Most likely because what he did was illegal, and what Pedro did wasn't. (Devil's advocate)Understood, but the key difference there is jurisdiction. That should matter to a DA, but should it matter to a team?(/Devil's advocate)

i think that whether or not you are breaking a law influences the level of morality of your actions.

i also believe that the type of animals you choose to have engaged in bloodsport also affects the morality of your actions.

[Frayed Knot]

AG/DC wrote: (Devil's advocate)Understood, but the key difference there is jurisdiction. That should matter to a DA, but should it matter to a team?(/Devil's advocate)

There are a helluva lot more differences than merely juristiction.

[nymr83]

its legal there, not the Mets' business.

[Guest AG/DC]

Frayed Knot wrote: ="AG/DC"](Devil's advocate)Understood, but the key difference there is jurisdiction. That should matter to a DA, but should it matter to a team?(/Devil's advocate) There are a helluva lot more differences than merely juristiction.

Well, I'm Kaz Ishii, and quite wild today.

Please include the quote I was responding to when I wrote "there."

[Guest AG/DC]

Nymr83 wrote: its legal there, not the Mets' business.

How far do you want to take that logic?