Panic Time

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

"Remain calm. All is well!"

[Willets Point]

I don't know what you people were all worried about. The Mets are just fine.

Sosa kicked ass.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Edgy DC wrote: 1) Starting pitching has been money for a while. The last 14 games produced 13 quality starts and a 14th when the guy was relieved one out short.

Yeah, I said that.

Edgy DC wrote: 8) I remembered what eight was for. In addition to his generally fine work for the Mets, Jorge Sosa was 4-0, 1.13 in 32 innings with New Orleans. This is at least somewhat for real.

Said that too.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

How is he doing it though? I can't help but feel like there's a room ahead with nothing but banana peels on the floor.

[Frayed Knot]

Well, he's still young, has a good arm, and has had success in the bigs before (even if not lately) so it's not like he's totally out of the blue.

In the meantime, just have him tip-toe past those banana peels until Pedro is ready.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, this isn't unprecedented, and 2005 wasn't that long ago. Maybe Sosa + Good Pitching Coach > Sosa + Roger McDowell.

[stevejrogers]

="Rockin' Doc"]"Remain calm. All is well!"

Over? Did you say over?...

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Yeah but even in '05 I thought he was one of those guys who musta gotten lucky on BABiP since the K/IP was hardly remarkable except for the fact that it paired with 2-something ERA all year. His ratios weren't all that worse last year when he was killed.

Now, I don't doubt I see what I see when I see him. It's just that, I gotta know... how?

[Elster88]

6/8 Sosa 8 innings and 0 earned runs
6/7 Maine 7 and 2
6/6 Hernandez 6 and 0
6/5 Glavine 7 and 2
6/3 Perez 7 and 3
6/2 Sosa 6.2 and 1
6/1 Maine 6 and 2
5/31 Hernandez 7 and 2
5/30 Glavine 7 and 3
5/29 Perez 7 and 3
5/27 Sosa 5.2 and 2
5/26 Maine 6 and 2
5/25 Hernandez 6 and 0
5/24 Glavine 6 and 2
5/23 Perez 7 and 0

[Frayed Knot]

What Sosa did in his previous good year and is doing again now is keep the ball in the park.
He served up 12 HRs over 134 IPs w/the Braves in '05, then they dumped him mid-way through '06 after he had given up 20 in just 87 IPs and he went on to give up another 10 in barely 30 IPs with the Cardinals.
Maybe Rick's 1st commandment of [u:d429c1654e]Thou Shalt Keep the Ball Down[/u:d429c1654e] is paying off here.

His K rates are about where they've always been (5-6 per 9 IPs) and his walk rates (3/9) are roughly the same as a year ago too (although better than in his early years).
The hits/9 are way down and there may be an element of randomness to that that'll come back to bite him at some point - although the reduced HRs are certainly part of that.

[Guest cleonjones11]

We need a full-time corner OF'er with power...Write off Alou and Shawnie and get someone

[Willets Point]

I think we're past panic time and into rebuilding time. Seriously. Even if this team manages to go .500 or thereabouts and squeak in as a wild card I'd rather that Omar do something to build this team up as a consistent contender rather than the lighting in the bottle squad held together by duct tape we have now.

I'd start by weeding out the older guys (Glavine, Hernandez, Easley, Franco, Valentin, Sele, LoDuca, Green and yes, maybe even Delgado). Maybe some of them can bring us prospects from AL contenders at the trade deadline. In their place bring up some of current top performers from AAA & AA and let them play out the season. They can't do any worse than the team is now.

[Guest Edgy DC]

That's cashing in the season, isn't it?

[Willets Point]

Maybe, maybe not. It's taking a risk on building a contending team for several seasons with possible loss of contention this season (which may happen regardless).

[metirish]

Willets,your taking the piss,right?,I think Omar has built a consistent contender,needs some tweaking now and then but it's OK.

[Vic Sage]

]Willets,your taking the piss,right?,

taking it where?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Willets Point wrote: They can't do any worse than the team is now.

I think that's always dangerous thinking. New Orleans is a first place team and that's good, but comparing them to how the Mets are doing now in a snapshot isn't what we're trying to do, but rather figure out who will do better over the course of the season. And yes, beyond.

The Mets are (still!) in first place, with a record every team in the National League besides San Diego covets. And they're a team with a foundation for long-term success.

Two weeks of bad ball is two weeks of bad ball. Sooner or later, a team has to play the card they have instead of going back to the deck, and they're in a much better postiion to play them than most everybody els.e

[Willets Point]

metirish wrote: Willets,your taking the piss,right?,I think Omar has built a consistent contender,needs some tweaking now and then but it's OK.

"Pissed off" actually (which means "angry" in US lingo).

[Guest cleonjones11]

To Carlos Beltran..

Please take the stick out of your ass and hustle

You are a diva concerned mostly with your appearance and self-love..you will not accept advice from others

And please..Remove the large MOLE from your cheek

MOLY MOLY MOLY MOLY MOLY

I'd actually like Sheffield to kick esse Carlos's moly butt

[Guest Edgy DC]

So, basically , as much as he's more concerned with his appearance than baseball, you're more concerned with his appearance than he is.

[Guest cleonjones11]

Edgy..I think he's a clubhouse cancer and is grossly overrated...Do you think he gives his all most or all of the time..you may...I just dont..

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'll give my all most or all of the time. Will you?

[Batty31]

I've never warmed up to Beltran. He's always given me a Roberto Alomar type of vibe.

[Guest cleonjones11]

Edgy DC wrote: I'll give my all most or all of the time. Will you?

Sure..but a two person sample doesnt prove anything about Beltran..

[HahnSolo]

Willets Point wrote: I think we're past panic time and into rebuilding time. Seriously. Even if this team manages to go .500 or thereabouts and squeak in as a wild card I'd rather that Omar do something to build this team up as a consistent contender rather than the lighting in the bottle squad held together by duct tape we have now. I'd start by weeding out the older guys (Glavine, Hernandez, Easley, Franco, Valentin, Sele, LoDuca, Green and yes, maybe even Delgado). Maybe some of them can bring us prospects from AL contenders at the trade deadline. In their place bring up some of current top performers from AAA & AA and let them play out the season. They can't do any worse than the team is now.

Take it easy Willets. They're still in first place. I'm sure there was a Cardinal fan somewhere last year who was ready to blow up the roster mid-season.
I'll point out that we already have one of our current top AAA players on the big league roster...his name is Ricky Ledee. I can't believe you really want what you say you want.

[Guest Edgy DC]

cleonjones11 wrote: Sure.

That's all this forum needs.

[Willets Point]

This team just plain sucks.

[seawolf17]

Will you people stop? We have the best record in the National League. Until there's a digit in the "GB" column next to "New York," everybody cool out.

[Willets Point]

Well let me just say that being swept by the Phillies going into Atlanta does not fill me with cahn-fidence that the Mets will be in first place much longer.

[metsmarathon]

everytime i start to panic, i put on my footie pajamas in blue and orange, and it all feels better.