METS GAME USED JERSEYS FOR SALE!!!

[Guest NYGAMEUSED]

RealityChuck wrote: ="NYGAMEUSED"]I am a bit confused from your statement your saying it brings Fantasy to Reality - but this hobby has been going on since the late 1800's people have been collecting Game Used item dating back to the Lemon Peel Baseballs Cite? Or, in other words, can you give any evidence to back this claim? Any ads from the late 1800s selling these? Any dealers, buyers or sellers ever using the term "game-used" during that era?

Actually I can give plenty of examples for one, they are out there floating around being sold just check ebay or any sports auction thats proof enough!! As far as actual paperwork showing People buying and selling - thats the business end of it I didnt say the business end of it existed back then I said the hobby did of people collecting these Game Used items.

cooby as your statement regarding me a Scarlet Groupie???? I don't even know who he is???
Towards your question regarding chopping up Game Used pieces for baseball cards I think its disgusting. Why how do you feel about it?

[Centerfield]

Have the game-used jerseys been washed or are they still sweaty?

[Guest cooby]

I think it is terrible but it seems to be a popular new trend

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

cooby wrote: Oh no, he's a Scarlet Night groupie!

One of many

[Guest NYGAMEUSED]

I understand why the baseball card companies did it and continue to do it but its not right at all!!!

[RealityChuck]

NYGAMEUSED wrote: Actually I can give plenty of examples for one, they are out there floating around being sold just check ebay or any sports auction thats proof enough!!

I didn't know they had eBay in the 19th Century. Live and learn.

However, unless you are willing to make that claim, an eBay auction is no proof that the hobby existed in the 19th Century.

NYGAMEUSED wrote: As far as actual paperwork showing People buying and selling - thats the business end of it I didnt say the business end of it existed back then I said the hobby did of people collecting these Game Used items.

Attacking a straw man. I didn't ask for the sales paperwork. I asked for evidence that anyone was selling game-used jerseys in the 19th century.

You have asserted people in the 19th century collected "game-used items." Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? Any names of prominent 19th century collectors or dealers, for example. Any cites from a 19th century document that uses the phrase "game-used"? Any ads in Baseball periodical selling jerseys?

You made an assertion. I have called it into question. Now, produce some evidence to prove me wrong.

[Guest NYGAMEUSED]

RealityChuck wrote: ="NYGAMEUSED"]Actually I can give plenty of examples for one, they are out there floating around being sold just check ebay or any sports auction thats proof enough!! I didn't know they had eBay in the 19th Century. Live and learn. However, unless you are willing to make that claim, an eBay auction is no proof that the hobby existed in the 19th Century. I never once claimed that ebay did exist then, isaid you can find these items on ebay. ="NYGAMEUSED"]As far as actual paperwork showing People buying and selling - thats the business end of it I didnt say the business end of it existed back then I said the hobby did of people collecting these Game Used items. Attacking a straw man. I didn't ask for the sales paperwork. I asked for evidence that anyone was selling game-used jerseys in the 19th century. You have asserted people in the 19th century collected "game-used items." Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? Any names of prominent 19th century collectors or dealers, for example. Any cites from a 19th century document that uses the phrase "game-used"? Any ads in Baseball periodical selling jerseys? Yes collected sure as mentioned earlier these items out there, if no one collected them, then how would they exist today on the secondary markets? I personally do not know the names of prominent 19th century collectors, but I can give you the name of my grandfather who passed down a collection to me of Game Used baseballs and a Jersey. As stated before the phrase"Game Used" falls into the aspect of the business end of it. I don't know if there were periodicals back then for such an item as said before back then people collected these items, an actual sale didnt necessarilly take place. I SEE THIS IS A HARD CONCEPT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND. You made an assertion. I have called it into question. Now, produce some evidence to prove me wrong.

The insertion I made has nothing to do with the questions you ask.
I stated it was a collectin hobby yet you keep referring to the business aspect of it. I dont understand why you can't comprehend the difference between someone just collecting something and a business sale

[RealityChuck]

NYGAMEUSED wrote: The insertion I made has nothing to do with the questions you ask. I stated it was a collectin hobby yet you keep referring to the business aspect of it. I dont understand why you can't comprehend the difference between someone just collecting something and a business sale

So? You haven't given any evidence that the hobby existed, either. I'm merely suggesting evidence that would prove it did, but if you can come up with something else, that's great: the name of a 19th century collector, for instance. Or any document from the time (e.g., a private letter) that talks about getting a "game-used jersey."

Let's see some proof. You made an assertion, but keep changing the subject whenever I ask you to back it up.

[Guest NYGAMEUSED]

I see you didnt full read my reply by accident i posted my responses in the quote part - if you read through the last quote part I answered all your questions.

As far as me backing up what I said, that I did. As far as chaning the subject, I have not that's what you have been doing because you don't know the difference between Hobby collectiong and Business.

But thats ok your excused, I am curious why you don't have this comprehnsion i see its a problem for you.

[Valadius]

You know, if you didn't constantly attack people's intelligence, etc., maybe we'd take you a bit more seriously.

[Guest NYGAMEUSED]

Vladius so let me get this correct its ok for him to attack me because he full doesnt understand what I wrote and after explaining it the second time he still doesnt get it and continues to attack me for a 3rde time thats ok???

but becuz after his second attack I attacked him back thats not ok???????

Meanwhile he continuosly attacks me

[Guest Edgy DC]

RealityChuck wrote: Let's see some proof. You made an assertion, but keep changing the subject whenever I ask you to back it up.

I think Chuck is wasting his time with you. It doesn't matter how far back this hobby goes.

But this isn't an attack.

[Valadius]

Brush it off, for crying out loud. It's not right for anyone to attack anybody, but come on, lighten up a little. Crack a joke or two.

[Benjamin Grimm]

]Yes collected sure as mentioned earlier these items out there, if no one collected them, then how would they exist today on the secondary markets?

There's a difference between someone "collecting" something and someone not throwing it out.

If my great grandchildren somehow find my toaster oven in my attic years after I die, it's not evidence that I collected toaster ovens. It simply means that my toaster oven was never disposed of.

]I personally do not know the names of prominent 19th century collectors, but I can give you the name of my grandfather who passed down a collection to me of Game Used baseballs and a Jersey.

How did your grandfather come by these items? If he bought them from players or teams because he liked having used baseball jerseys, then he was a collector. But unless you're pretty old your grandfather probably wasn't doing this collecting in the 19th Century. I'd guess he probably bought them, either directly or indirectly, from the families that never threw them out.

[RealityChuck]

NYGAMEUSED wrote: I see you didnt full read my reply by accident i posted my responses in the quote part - if you read through the last quote part I answered all your questions.

You're right. Here it is:

]Yes collected sure as mentioned earlier these items out there, if no one collected them, then how would they exist today on the secondary markets?

Not proof. Or, at least, no more proof than saying, "they exist, thus elves laid them on people's pillows." There are many ways these could have existed without active collectors -- they were kept by the players themselves, for example, or their relatives. You are claiming that there were actually people who went around gathering these items as part of a collection, not merely keeping one or two personal souveniers.

] I personally do not know the names of prominent 19th century collectors, but I can give you the name of my grandfather who passed down a collection to me of Game Used baseballs and a Jersey.

Your grandfather was a 19th century collector? Really? My grandfather was born in 1899, so he couldn't be a collector in the 19th century, and I bet I'm older than you are. What year was your grandfather born?

More likely, he started collecting well into the 20th century. That's does nothing to prove your claim.

]As stated before the phrase"Game Used" falls into the aspect of the business end of it. I don't know if there were periodicals back then for such an item as said before back then people collected these items, an actual sale didnt necessarilly take place. I SEE THIS IS A HARD CONCEPT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND.

And I don't see why it's so hard to come up with evidence to show that people did actually collect these items. I did not insist you show a market and sales, just some evidence to back your claim. And saying "What else could it be?" will result in the answer "elves."

]As far as me backing up what I said, that I did. As far as chaning the subject, I have not that's what you have been doing because you don't know the difference between Hobby collectiong and Business.

All I'm asking is evidence that this purported hobby existed in the 19th century. You keep avoiding that and pretending that I'm asking the business existed. I am not asking that, and I never asked that. I'm asking for evidence OF THE HOBBY.

I, too, am curious why you don't have this comprehnsion, but I see it's that you just want to evade the issue because you have no proof to back up your assertion.

[stevejrogers]

RealityChuck wrote: ="NYGAMEUSED"]The insertion I made has nothing to do with the questions you ask. I stated it was a collectin hobby yet you keep referring to the business aspect of it. I dont understand why you can't comprehend the difference between someone just collecting something and a business sale So? You haven't given any evidence that the hobby existed, either. I'm merely suggesting evidence that would prove it did, but if you can come up with something else, that's great: the name of a 19th century collector, for instance. Or any document from the time (e.g., a private letter) that talks about getting a "game-used jersey." Let's see some proof. You made an assertion, but keep changing the subject whenever I ask you to back it up.

Chuck, Barry Halper once had a collection of GU jerseys of EVERY HOFer, that means even Pud Galvin, Billy Hamilton, Hoss Radbourn, Al Spaulding, ect

Does that mean there were dealers back then or Barry bought them from family/estates who knows, but there is a reason those keepsakes were kept

[RealityChuck]

I agree. People held on to these and were later added to collections by collectors.

But that wasn't the claim. The claim was that there were collectors -- people searching out the "game-used" jerseys in the 19th century.

It's not that the jerseys don't exist. I'm looking for proof that collectors of these jerseys existed in the 19th Century.

[Guest KC]

Maybe we should just move on. Collecting baseball uniforms is actually a
very cool hobby if that's one's bag. I have a friend, actually Scarlett interviewed
him for Inside Pitch, who has almost every uniform from the 86 team and has a
ot of 60's uniforms and it's pretty impressive. He was also featured on SNY
a little while back too. He has a veritable museum of Mets stuff.

I'm surprised everyone is trashing collecting Mets laundry, but I suppose it's more
trashing the peddling of one's wares on our little pond in cyber-space.

NYGAME, if ya wanna do a low key ad stick it in the member promotion forum
and if ya wanna hang out start off on a new (and better) note on something
else baseball related and like I said, let's move on.

[Frayed Knot]

Does this mean I'm no longer head of the welcoming committee?

[Guest cooby]

I thought it was KC all along.

Now I know it.

[Guest KC]

We love ya FK, don't ever change.

I escalated shit at work today, so I thought I'd try on the voice of reason
hat for the internet ... mix it up a little.

[Guest KC]

cooby cooby cooby

[metsmarathon]

i'm still trying to figure out how you would talk out of hte side of your neck. i think its been glossed over in this whole discussion.

i mean, sure, talking out of the front of your neck - that i'll buy. there's that whole anti-smoking commercial thing that shows just what that's all about, along with a sad sad tale of a man no longer able to swin.

but the side of your neck? that's just dangerous. there's big blood vessels in the way, and a fair amount of musculature and other connective tissues. its just not even a good idea to try it.

i should reconsider my approach for making friends on new forums (not that i would ever have need to find new or different online friends. y'all are the best!

i've gotta just start off with

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[Guest cooby]

I think I have a general idea of what Frayed Knot looks like, but even so, I just can't picture him talking out of the side of his neck. It just sounds like it would hurt, doesn't it?

[metirish]

I've heard of talking out of your arse but never the neck.

[Frayed Knot]

="cooby"]I think I have a general idea of what Frayed Knot looks like

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Frayed Knot wrote: Does this mean I'm no longer head of the welcoming committee?

Hello - He's Frayed Knot. He's damn glad to meet you!

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm selling the shirt and tie I was wearing when I read this thread and posted in it. If anybody collects flame-used clothing, shoot me an e-mail.

[Guest cooby]

Frayed Knot, that picture along with your sig line is extra funny!

[soupcan]

Edgy DC wrote: I'm selling the shirt and tie I was wearing when I read this thread and posted in it. If anybody collects flame-used clothing, shoot me an e-mail.

Golf clap.