Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 SteveJRogers wrote:Great article G, but this is the former MLBers thread:This is the Continuing Careers Of Ex-Mets threadThanks for your concern. The thread police can feel free to move my post and replies to the appropriate place. Send me my fine assesment in the mail.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 Gwreck wrote:="SteveJRogers"]Great article G, but this is the former MLBers thread:This is the Continuing Careers Of Ex-Mets threadThanks for your concern. The thread police can feel free to move my post and replies to the appropriate place. Send me my fine assesment in the mail.Heh, just send me a case of Sam Adams Summer Ale! =
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 Who would have guessed that Piazza would be playing for his fifth MLB team this season...he probably should have been a career Dodger....just a random thought ...
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Riveting news coming out of Hattiesburg. A "major deal."New park becoming a realityBy Stan Caldwell During a professional baseball career that included three seasons with the New York Mets, Bobby Myrick pitched in some of the nation's great ball parks, as well as some that were not so great.But he got his start at the Dixie Youth fields at Jaycee Park. So it was with mixed feelings that Myrick watched the official ground-breaking ceremonies Tuesday at the new Dixie Youth Baseball complex. "I remember playing there," Myrick said. "The old park was good for the day we played, but there's always room for improvement, especially when you have as many kids out there as they have now. You have to have facilities to accommodate the kids. It's going to benefit the city of Hattiesburg." This year, 590 players have signed up for Dixie Youth Baseball in Hattiesburg, which is open to players ages 4-12. If everything goes as planned, this will be the last season of Dixie Youth Baseball at Jaycee Park.When complete, the facility will have four fields surrounding a central press box-concessions building.Hattiesburg coaches who have taken teams to other complexes around the state and region say the new complex will rival any similar facility anywhere."It's going to be a major deal," said Mark Uldrick, who has been a coach in the program for more than 12 years. "It's going to be the best I've ever seen."The youngsters who participated in Tuesday's ceremony seemed to have a keen understanding of the day's significance, even those who will never play at the park."I've been in the program since I was 6, and this will be my last year," said Alexander Shows, 12, who is a sixth-grader at Presbyterian Christian. "Even though I'll be too old to play on it next year, I'm looking forward to watching the other kids play here."
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Bob Myrick wasn't too bad a pitcher
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 In what state is Hattiesburg?
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Missippi.Noteworthy FactsBirthplace of MCI/WorldcomThe idea for what became one of America's major telecommunications companies, MCI/Worldcom, was reportedly sketched out by Bernard "Bernie" Ebbers and a group of investors on a napkin during a meeting in a Hattiesburg diner. The company, incepted shortly after the breakup of AT&T, was originally known as Long Distance Discount Services (LDDS) in order to take advantage of FCC rules that subsidized new competitors.Birthplace of Rock and RollIt is a little-known fact that a number of music scholars consider Hattiesburg to be the historic birthplace of rock and roll. As noted in the Rolling Stone Illustrated History of Rock and Roll, Hattiesburg was a recording location of Blind Roosevelt Graves and his brother, Uaroy Graves, who, along with piano player Cooney Vaughn, recorded two songs in 1936 that "...featured fully formed rock & roll guitar riffs and a stomping rock & roll beat." The Graves Brothers and Vaughn--performing as the Mississippi Jook Band--recorded the songs 'Barbecue Bust' and 'Dangerous Woman' for the American Record Company, reportedly at the Hattiesburg Train Station.Vela Uniform/Project DribbleVela Uniform was an element of Project Vela conducted jointly by the United States Department of Energy (DOE) and the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA). Its purpose was to develop seismic methods for detecting underground nuclear testing. The PROJECT DRIBBLE program involved two nuclear detonations called SALMON and STERLING that were conducted within Tatum Salt Dome southwest of the Hattiesburg/Purvis area in the late 60's.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Mississippi is one of only eight states that I haven't been to.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Yancy Street Gang wrote:Mississippi is one of only eight states that I haven't been to.The others: Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Oregon, Oklahoma, and Alabama.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 ]It is a little-known fact that a number of music scholars consider Hattiesburg to be the historic birthplace of rock and roll. "I'm standing here by the banks of the Mississippi ..."
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 seawolf17 wrote:="Yancy Street Gang"]Mississippi is one of only eight states that I haven't been to.The others: Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Oregon, Oklahoma, and Alabama.Is that a guess? You got three of them right.I've actually been to Oklahoma three times, Alabama twice. Nebraska once, on a cross-country drive when I was a kid.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Yancy Street Gang wrote:="seawolf17"]Yancy Street Gang wrote:Mississippi is one of only eight states that I haven't been to.The others: Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Oregon, Oklahoma, and Alabama.Is that a guess? You got three of them right.I've actually been to Oklahoma three times, Alabama twice. Nebraska once, on a cross-country drive when I was a kid.Yep. (Not bad!)
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 Hub bids Mags hello.]Hired in October to replace Ron "Papa Jack" Jackson, Magadan inherits one of the most talented offenses in the game."When I was let go from San Diego in June, I gave the Red Sox a call -- Theo Epstein was obviously in San Diego before he came here," Magadan said. "The Red Sox happened to be going to Tampa, which is where my home is, to play the Devil Rays. I met with Theo at that point and started a dialogue with him."Magadan began to get a feel for the organization early on in his time with the Red Sox."I came on board at first in an undefined role," he said. "I went up to Boston and was in on some meetings, talking about players and stuff like that -- Minor League players -- and I was on board in that respect. Then it kind of evolved after the letting go of Papa Jack, and they interviewed me for the hitting coach job, and here I am."Magadan has already watched hours of tape on each hitter while charting their tendencies."He's very organized," manager Terry Francona said. "He watched everybody's mechanics before he got here so there's a lot of familiarity, or as much as there could be, which I appreciated. He'll do fine."As was Magadan's approach during his career with the Mets, Marlins, Mariners, Astros, Cubs, A's and Padres, patience will likely be a recurring theme."Obviously, I'm a hitting coach who believes in patience at the plate and taking your walks when they're there to be taken, and I think that fits really well with the philosophy of the organization," Magadan said."Instead of taking what I feel and jam it into these guys who have been established for a long period of time, I think my job is to realize what these guys do well when they're going good and being able to approach them when they're getting outside of that and going through periods of not hitting the ball hard. Really, that's most of your job at the big-league level."A legendary hitter at the University of Alabama, where he led his team to the NCAA Championship game in 1983 before falling to Roger Clemens and Texas, Magadan is excited to be working with a lineup that includes David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez and J.D. Drew."It's very exciting," Magadan said. "Obviously, there are great expectations on this team, especially offensively. I'm looking forward to seeing these guys on an everyday basis. I've looked at them from afar for a long period of time and admired the work that they do. It's going to be nice to be in the trenches there with them and see what they do."Magadan has spent most of his time in Fort Myers at the batting cages, watching countless swings and getting to know his hitters."Most of the time in Spring Training, 90 percent of the time, is for the pitchers," Magadan said. "With the hitters, most of these guys have been hitting in the offseason. Now, it's just fine-tuning, getting used to the live pitching. Really, after a week or so of facing the live pitchers, they're good to go for the games."I know as a player, it seemed I was ready to go two weeks into Spring Training, or at least two weeks into when the games started. The last two weeks or so was about surviving and staying away from injuries and fine-tuning things here and there."As is the case with nearly every player, Magadan has been influenced by others in the game."When I was with the Mets, Mike Cubbage was a guy who had some influence on me," he said. "Then I went on to the Marlins and Doug Rader was our hitting coach one year there, and he kind of attacked the mental aspect of it and how to grind out at-bats and not give away at-bats."Magadan believes both teaching and learning about hitting is an ongoing process."I think the good ones are the ones who feel that you never stop learning," he said. "No matter how old you are, you can still get better."And that's true whether you're Ortiz, Ramirez or their hitting coach.
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted March 2, 2007 Posted March 2, 2007 '62 Met Clem Labine died on Friday at the age of 80.LATimes:]Clem Labine dies at 80Steve Henson, Times Staff Writer8:37 AM PST, March 2, 2007VERO BEACH, Fla. -- Clem Labine, a pioneering relief pitcher and a member of the "Boys of Summer" Brooklyn Dodgers 1955 World Series championship team, died Friday at Indian River Memorial Hospital. He was 80.Labine, a right-hander, played in five World Series, four with the Dodgers and one with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Three of the teams—the Dodgers in 1955 and 1959, and the Pirates in 1960—won championships.One of the first pitchers who specialized in entering a game in the late innings to preserve a victory, Labine twice led the National League in saves and recorded 96 during his 13-year career. He had a won-loss record of 77-56 with a 3.63 earned-run average, and notched a win and a save in the 1955 World Series, appearing in four of the seven games.Labine had lived in Vero Beach since 1987 and was a popular instructor at the adult baseball camps at Dodgertown, recounting stories along with former teammates that included Duke Snider, Carl Erskine, Ralph Branca and Preacher Roe.Shortly after making his 40th appearance at the camp last month, Labine was hospitalized because of pneumonia and congestive heart failure. He fell into a coma and never awoke."Clem Labine was one of the main reasons the Dodgers won it all in 1955," said Vin Scully, the longtime Dodgers broadcaster. "He had the heart of a lion and the intelligence of a wily fox. And he was a nice guy too. He will be truly missed by all who knew him."Born Aug. 6, 1926, in Lincoln, R.I., Labine was raised in Woonsocket, R.I., and attended St. Ann's Park school. The Dodgers signed him in 1944 and he made his major league debut in 1950.Labine established himself as a valuable relief pitcher the next season, but his most memorable game that year came during a rare start. He shut out the New York Giants, 10-0, in the second playoff game of a three-game series, setting up a finale made a part of baseball lore when Bobby Thomson hit "the shot heard around the world," a home run in the ninth inning that sent the Giants to the World Series."I always thought Clem would've had a great career as a starting pitcher," said Erskine, Labine's teammate from 1950 to 1959. "But he told me, 'I didn't want to start. I liked the pressure of coming into the game with everything on the line. I could also do it more often as a reliever.' "Labine led the National League with 19 saves in 1956, but again, his most memorable outing was a postseason start. Brooklyn trailed the New York Yankees three games to two in the World Series when Dodgers Manager Walter Alston called on Labine as a surprise starter. He pitched a 10-inning shutout to keep the series alive.The game was overshadowed because it came between two Yankees victories—Don Larsen's perfect game the previous day and the Game 7 clincher the next day.Labine remained with the Dodgers when the franchise moved to Los Angeles in 1958 and pitched on the 1959 team that won the World Series title. On June 15, 1960, Labine was traded to the Detroit Tigers for Ray Semproch and $350.Upon his departure, Labine left a handwritten note in the dugout that expressed his admiration for his teammates and the Dodgers. Team owner Walter O'Malley sent a note to Labine, thanking him for his service."Clem Labine was one of the greatest guys I had the pleasure of playing with," said former teammate Tom Lasorda. "He represented the Dodgers with class, dignity and character."After he retired from baseball in 1962, Labine worked for a clothing company, then became a banker, maintaining homes in Rhode Island and Vero Beach.Labine is survived by his wife, Barbara; his son, Clem Jr. of Woonsocket; four daughters, Kim Archambault and Gail Ponanski of Smithfield, R.I., Barbara Grubbs of Reno, Nev., and Susan Gershkoff of Lincoln, R.I.; five grandchildren and one great-grandchild.Condolences can be posted on the website of Cox-Gifford-Seawinds Funeral Home at www.seawindsfh.com. Donations can be made to St. Jude Children Research Hospital, 501 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN. A memorial service is pending.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 Officer Stanley Jefferson, bad fit.Brace for impact with this one.Forgotten heroFormer Met Stanley Jefferson struggles to cope with horror of life as 9/11 copBY WAYNE COFFEYDAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Stanley Jefferson in his home in Co-Op City.Jefferson at Police Academy in 1998.Jefferson was a first-round draft pick of the Mets in 1983.Four flights up in Co-Op City, at the end of a hallway in Building 26, the big man sits in a big brown recliner, boxed in by four walls and demons and an emptiness that doesn't end. If only it did. If only it were finite, measurable, like the outfields of Yankee Stadium and Shea Stadium, or the other big-league parks he once called home.Then Stanley Jefferson might be able to know exactly what he's dealing with. Then he might be able to go outside, go to work, maybe share the things he still believes he has to give, and begin to pick up the shards of a life that sometimes seems broken beyond recognition.It is early in a late-winter afternoon. In Florida the Mets and Yankees are playing their first spring-training games, the sense of renewal as palpable as the palm trees. In Building 26 in the Bronx, the feeling is different, and has been ever since Sept. 11, 2001. Stanley Jefferson, former big-league ballplayer and former New York City police officer, and one of the greatest schoolboy players the city has ever produced, has the remote in his hand, and his beloved Yorkshire terrier, Rocky, on his lap. His wife, Christie, is off at her job at a social-services agency in Westchester. The apartment is crammed with a sectional sofa and a desk and exercise machines that sit unused. Against one wall is a big fish tank. All the fish are dead. Against another is a big-screen television, where Jefferson plays his video games, and watches his comedies, laugh tracks sounding as days pass into weeks, and weeks into months."Raymond," "Family Guy," "Two and a Half Men," Stanley Jefferson likes them all. "They keep my spirits up, rather than crying or brooding," he says. A faint smile crosses his broad, goateed face. The spirits do not stay up for long.Fifteen years after his baseball career ended with a ruptured Achilles, two years after his police career ended when the department declared him unfit for duty, 44-year-old Stanley Jefferson, former shield No. 14299 and former uniform No. 13, wrangles with the NYPD over his disability benefit, and with a much more debilitating enemy: the ravages of post-traumatic stress disorder. It is a condition that the National Center for Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, a division of the U.S. Dept. of Veteran Affairs, defines as "an anxiety disorder that can occur following the experience or witnessing of a traumatic event." For Jefferson, it has spawned everything from agoraphobia to panic attacks to immobilizing depression to recurring nightmares - one in which he is tormented by a ball of fire reminiscent of the explosion he witnessed when the second plane flew into the second tower a few minutes after 9 a.m. on 9/11, another in which he desperately tries to save a people in peril, but never manages to reach them.Once, in 1983, Jefferson was a first-round draft choice of the Mets (taken one slot after the Red Sox selected a pitcher named Clemens), a blindingly fast, 5-11, 175-pound center fielder out of Truman High School, and Bethune-Cookman College in Daytona Beach. He still might be the fastest player the organization has ever had. He was clocked running a 4.27 40 on a wet track during his Met tryout, and was timed at 3.0 from home to first in college. He had some 120 steals in his first three minor-league seasons, and hit an inside-the-park grand slam. Now he is 255 pounds and speeding nowhere.He leaves the apartment about only twice a week, and even then it's only if he feels safe, if he's meeting someone close to him, such as Steve Bradstetter, 40, a Long Island businessman who is perhaps his closest friend."I have no life," Jefferson says, in a flat, baritone voice. "I've screwed up a lot of days." He pauses. He wrings his hands, something he does often. "I always thought this was something that would pass. I thought I could overcome anything, because that's just my athletic mentality. I'm ashamed because I never thought that something like this could happen to me."Says Christie, his wife of three years, "This is not the man I married." * * *Even by the sculpted body standards of professional sports, Stanley Jefferson's physique - ropes of lean muscle on top of thick sprinter's legs - always stood out. When you saw him in motion, it stood out even more. Willie Daniels, 44, a childhood friend of Jefferson's from Co-Op City, played Little League with him, the two of them coached by Everod Jefferson, Stanley's father. They went to Truman High together and then to Bethune-Cookman. Daniels still marvels at the time Jefferson beat out a two-hopper to first against the University of Miami. In one college season, Jefferson stole 67 of 68 bases, getting caught only when his spikes got stuck on a wet track."I played with Devon White, Shawon Dunston, Walt Weiss, a lot of guys. Stanley is one of the best pure athletes I've ever seen," Daniels says.The Mets did not disagree. Two years after he made his pro debut in the Single-A New York-Penn League and was the league's rookie of the year, Jefferson was one of the sensations of the club's training camp. The year was 1986, and seven months before Mookie Wilson and Bill Buckner would become odd baseball bedfellows, Davey Johnson was likening the 23-year-old Jefferson to Chili Davis. Steve Schryver, director of minor-league operations, saw him as a young Bake McBride. Jefferson hit .500 in the spring, and if not for GM Frank Cashen's reluctance to rush him, he probably would've made the team."How can you not love his future?" Rusty Staub said then. "You look at his skills and think 'leadoff man.' You think about 100 runs a season." Nor was he just a weapon at the top of the order. "If the ball is in the ballpark, Stanley Jefferson will catch it," said Joe McIlvaine, the future GM, envisioning Jefferson spending years alongside Darryl Strawberry.Jefferson wound up fighting injuries most of the '86 season in Tidewater, struggling with a chronic wrist problem and a hamstring pull. Still, he got a September call-up, and picked up his first big-league hit off the Padres' Dave LaPoint. It was supposed to be just the beginning, before the performance of Lenny Dykstra and the lure of a star left fielder induced the Mets to make Jefferson a key part of a winter deal that brought Kevin McReynolds to Flushing. Fourteen games wound up being the entirety of Jefferson's Met career.Jefferson showed patches of promise in San Diego, stealing 34 bases in hitting eight homers and seven triples in 116 games, before a late-season slump left him with a .230 average. A natural righty who was converted into a switch-hitter by the Mets after he was drafted, Jefferson struggled from the left side, and wound up having trouble on his natural side, too. He had a run-in with manager Larry Bowa, and soon found himself on a journeyman's carousel, doing bits of time with the Yankees, Orioles, Indians and Reds before he tore his Achilles tendon while playing winter ball in Puerto Rico after the 1991 season. He says he had tendinitis for years, but played through it. It wouldn't be the last time Jefferson would ignore pain, try to push through it."Physically, athletically, I had all the tools. I didn't live up to those lofty expectations," Jefferson says.With baseball behind him, Jefferson went to work as a warehouse manager of a lighting company in Mt. Vernon, then spent a couple of years coaching in the minor leagues with the Mets and an independent team in Butte, Mont. His larger goal, though, was to become a New York City police officer. "I always wanted to be a cop, a detective," Jefferson says. He took the exam, went through a battery of psychological and physical tests and was sworn in on Dec. 8, 1997. "He was the perfect package for what you look for in a police officer," says Eric Josey, one of his instructors in the Police Academy. Jefferson graduated in the spring of 1998, posed for a graduation picture with Mayor Giuliani and Commissioner Safir, then was assigned to the 14th Pct., Midtown South. "I would always tell him, 'You got to live your dream twice,'" Willie Daniels says. "Most people don't even get to live their dream once."For almost four years, police work was all Jefferson hoped it would be. Another Labor Day came and went. Kids went back to school. It was a dazzlingly beautiful late-summer morning. It was a Tuesday. * * *Stanley Jefferson reported for work at 7:05 a.m. on Sept. 11, having flown all night on a red-eye after a family wedding in Seattle. Two hours later, in squad car 1726, he and his partner, Ed Kinloch, were at 6th Ave. and 38th St. They were eating breakfast. Jefferson, his muscled body built up to 210 pounds by regular trips to the gym, was having his usual bowl of oatmeal. A voice on the radio came on. It told of an explosion at the World Trade Center. They started heading downtown before being ordered to stop at Union Square. Jefferson and Kinloch got out of the car. Jefferson looked downtown and got his first glimpse of the remains of the first tower. He saw people jumping. He saw people waving towels, and more smoke than he'd ever seen in his life. He was still trying to fathom it when he watched the second plane rip right through the second tower. There was a ball of fire. It took a second or two for the sound of the horrific explosion to reach 14th St. Jefferson and Kinloch looked at each other."Oh, bleep," Kinloch said. "Did you see that?""We've got a problem here," Jefferson said.They were told to stay around 14th St. Jefferson and Kinloch did what they could to help and direct people, and comfort them. "There was a lot of crying, a lot of hugging," Jefferson says. "You try to stay focused and do your job and not get caught up in people's emotions, but it's hard." A series of bomb threats followed. Jefferson worked until 9 p.m., and was back at Midtown South at 4 a.m., on the 12th. On Thursday and Friday, the 13th and 14th, Jefferson was at Ground Zero, according to his memo book. "World Trade Detail," he wrote. Each day, Jefferson worked a 12-hour shift - from 4 a.m. to 4 p.m., on the pile, on the bucket brigade, putting body parts in bags, the carnage seemingly endless, the beeping of the empty oxygen packs of departed firefighters a shrill symphony that never stopped. The packs and other equipment, most of it with burnt flesh attached, were thrown into a makeshift tent."It was the smell of death in there, a smell you never forget," Kinloch says.Jefferson spent a number of other shifts around Ground Zero in the ensuing weeks, and by the end of the year, began to suffer from coughing spells and nightmares. He didn't think much of it at first, until his symptoms worsened in the spring of 2002, not long after he was transferred to the Internal Affairs Bureau (IAB), a move that he hoped would lead to a rapid promotion to detective. He started to experience periodic panic attacks, in which he would sweat profusely and feel his heart pounding as if it were a jackhammer. He also had trouble sleeping. While preparing reports for his IAB work, Jefferson says he began typing the same paragraph over and over. "I didn't know what was happening," he says. He did his best not to think about it, hoping it would go away."I was in complete denial," Jefferson says. "I wanted to be a detective, period. I just wanted to fake it until I could make it."Bradstetter began to wonder what was going on with his friend. He and Jefferson used to play golf all the time, but now Jefferson had no interest in it. He stopped working out, began gaining weight and found it harder and harder to leave the apartment. First, Jefferson would make excuses to Bradstetter. Later he opened up, just a little. "I don't know what's wrong with me," Jefferson told him.Jefferson's agoraphobia got progressively worse, and so did the panic attacks. His personal datebook shows 41 sick days in the first few months of 2003. Then, in March, days after he underwent an angiogram to correct a 30% blockage in his heart, Jefferson's mother died suddenly, and the combination of grief and the ongoing aftershocks of 9/11 sent him spiraling downward. * * *To say that Jefferson feels betrayed by the police department he dreamed of being a part of is to grossly understate it. He believes that in his time of greatest need, he was treated with all the sensitivity of a pine-tar rag. Perhaps the first major issue he had came down on June 23, 2003, just when his problems were deepening. Jefferson had a doctor's appointment and told his immediate supervisor, Sgt. Michael Dowd, about it when his shift started. A short time before Jefferson had to leave, Dowd requested that he finish up a case he was working on. Jefferson reminded him of his appointment. Dowd insisted that Jefferson do the work, and Jefferson refused to comply. In an incident report to Capt. Michael O'Keefe, Dowd said Jefferson was profane and belligerent, screaming, 'Who the bleep do you think you are talking to?"Jefferson, in a counter-complaint, says that Dowd was upset because he wanted to leave to play golf. Jefferson subsequently filed a discrimination lawsuit in federal court, a case that he settled out of court for $50,000 last year.Five days after the dispute with Dowd, Jefferson suffered a panic attack as he drove from Co-Op City to the IAB office on Hudson Street. His vision was blurry, his heart pounding. Sweat was pouring out of him. He pulled over and went to the Lenox Hill Emergency Room. Jefferson's bouts with panic - and fears he was having a heart attack - had made him such a regular at the ER in Our Lady of Mercy Hospital in Pelham that one technician gently told him he needed to stop coming. Now here he was in an ER again. He was terrified. He privately wondered when his troubles were going to end, and if he were going insane. He says his department superiors continually ignored his pleas - and the counsel of his therapist - to reduce his caseload and shift him from investigative to administrative work, an opinion that is backed up by Sgt. John Paolucci, another IAB officer who supported Jefferson in a letter to the department Medical Board."No consideration for his predicament was afforded him," Paolucci wrote, adding that the whole culture of the department tends to make anyone who is incapacitated an outcast. "Most will doubt the veracity of your illness and compassion is out of the question." Police officials declined to address any specifics relating to Jefferson's case.Not even 48 hours after his visit to Lenox Hill, Jefferson, of his own volition, went to the NYPD's Psychological Evaluation Unit in Queens. He had a two-hour intake meeting with a department therapist, Christie at his side. His two handguns were taken from him that day, and have never been returned, Jefferson being deemed unfit for police work. He was transferred to the VIPER unit - the lowest level of police work, involving the monitoring of surveillance cameras. "It's the land of broken toys - where they send anyone with charges pending or a problem that makes them unable to work," Jefferson says.On Nov. 8, 2004, the NYPD moved to place him on Ordinary Disability Retirement (ODR), based on a diagnosis of the department Medical Board of "major depressive disorder." Jefferson later applied for Accidental Disability Retirement (ADR), on the grounds that his condition was triggered by his Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome in the wake of 9/11 - a diagnosis made separately by a social worker and a psychiatrist who have treated Jefferson.The ODR amounts to $1,400 monthly. An ADR - granted to officers mentally or physically incapacitated in the line of duty - would provide Jefferson with just under $4,000 monthly, tax-free. The Medical Board and the Pension Board, citing reports by psychiatrists, social workers and an examination of Jefferson, said his mother's death and his heart problems were major triggers of his condition, and also mentioned the depressed feelings he had when his first wife and two daughters left him, in 1991. The Boards asserted that there was insufficient evidence to support a connection to 9/11 and Jefferson's problems - a finding upheld in State Supreme Court in Manhattan last October. Said Carolyn Wolpert, deputy chief of the pensions division of the city law department, "The city is grateful to Stanley Jefferson for his almost eight years of service as a police officer. Due to medical issues, the Police Pension Fund retired Officer Jefferson with ordinary disability benefits . . . The New York County Supreme Court found that there was credible medical evidence to support the determination that the officer's disability was not caused by his World Trade Center assignment." Jeffrey L. Goldberg, a Lake Success, L.I.-based attorney representing Jefferson, is planning on filing a second application for ADR benefits for Jefferson. Only nine officers who responded to the World Trade Center attacks have been granted accidental disability benefits for psychological reasons, according to a police source. Goldberg believes it is all but a de facto administration policy. "Mayor Bloomberg considers accidental disability retirement a free lunch for a police officer like Stanley Jefferson," Goldberg says. "This is no free lunch. This is the real-life consequence of an officer responding to a tragedy and an emergency. Stanley Jefferson is a hero. He should be aided, not discarded. Hopefully, the city will recognize that and support him as he tries to recover from a terribly serious medical condition."* * *Last week was a good one for Stanley Jefferson. He made it to Goldberg's office, after canceling a series of previous appointments. His daughters, Nicole, 21, and Brittany, 19, came to visit from Virginia. He went for coffee at a bookstore near Co-Op City, and opened up about every aspect of his six-year ordeal: his shame, his vulnerability, his embarrassment over having such a hard time walking out of Building 26, being in the world. "I know people can't understand it. I can't understand," he says. He talks about the medications he takes to ease his anxiety and his depression, and about the drinking binges - Grey Goose and cranberry - he used to go on to escape his pain. "It's what got me outside," Jefferson says. It also got him into full-blown rages, and a Westchester County treatment center last fall. He didn't want to talk when he got there, before he began to see that his therapist was right: the silent suffering was nothing but fuel for the demons."I can't let pride get in the way," Jefferson says. Adds wife Christie, "I keep telling him he's got to forget all the machismo right now, and realize he's not the only one who has gone through this in his life, and work on taking care of himself." Steve Bradstetter, Jefferson's friend, will always be grateful to Jefferson for the way he responded when Bradstetter's mother died. It was February of 2000, and Jefferson accompanied Bradstetter on a drive to Massachusetts. "It was about the toughest circumstance I've ever had to deal with, and he was there for me," Bradstetter says. "He was like, 'We'll talk, we'll laugh, we'll try to make sense of it all.'" Stanley Jefferson is a very different person than he was then. He is sad and often distant. When he and Bradstetter arrange to meet at a Dunkin' Donuts or a diner, Jefferson waits in the car until he sees Bradstetter pull up. Only then does he feel safe enough to get out. Sometimes Bradstetter will see his friend start wringing his hands, see the beads of sweat running down his temple, his leg jiggling as it were stuck in full throttle. Bradstetter doesn't know what to say. "It's like his whole body is taken over by whatever issues he's dealing with." He offers what comfort he can. He knows the real Stanley is still in there. Tomorrow afternoon, Stanley Jefferson is supposed to go to Dobbs Ferry to meet with Bill Sullivan, the Mercy College baseball coach. Jefferson finished his degree at Mercy while he was on the force. Sullivan has gotten to know him and like him, and would love to have him help out as a volunteer assistant."He would be such an asset for our program," Sullivan says.From his big brown chair on the fourth floor, Jefferson looks out a window, toward his terrace and a barren Co-Op City courtyard. He talks about the things he has to share in the world, how maybe he can work with kids. He says helping out at Mercy would be a great start. Jefferson knows he can't cure his illness, but he can face it, and battle it. The towers may be down forever, and his days of getting to first in three seconds may be behind him. But who says the rebuilding of a life can't begin anew? Who says a 44-year-old man can't get back to first and second and third, and all the way back home, no matter how long it takes? The big man leans back in his chair. "I do have optimism," Stanley Jefferson says. "I do believe that I'm strong enough that I will eventually get better. I just have to keep working at it."
Guest cooby Guests Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 Panic attacks are as crippling as any other disability. Shame on the system.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 I just noticed that Mrs. Jefferson (Christie, not Weezie) left a memory of her hubby on the UMDB a while back.And she left an e-mail address, which can be used if anyone wants to send some words of encouragement to her and Stanley.
Guest cooby Guests Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 Thanks Yancy, I know I will try to think of something to say if you will let me know what it is
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 I don't want to post it here. You can just go to the "Memories of Stanley Jefferson" page on the UMDB.
Guest cooby Guests Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 I did but I didn't notice it, I will check again!Later: I see, if you click on her name...
Guest ScarletKnight41 Guests Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 Yancy Street Gang wrote:I just noticed that Mrs. Jefferson (Christie, not Weezie) left a memory of her hubby on the UMDB a while back.And she left an e-mail address, which can be used if anyone wants to send some words of encouragement to her and Stanley.Thanks for the heads-up Yancy.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 I imagine you can also write him at his Co-Op City address.I wrote Jim Martin, executive director of the Baseball Assitance Team, asking if they could step up to the plate for Stanley.Maybe Mr. Wilpon might also.
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 What a tragically sad story. I hope that Stanley Jefferson can eventually find peace and overcome the demons that haunt him.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 Bobby "Fresno" Jones to talk Little League Baseball on WFAN Wednesday night. March 7thIts part of a special edition of WFAN's "The Sports Edge" with Rick Wolff which focuses on youth sports and issues relating to pre-college athletics. Usually on Sunday morning 8-9Its going to be up at the Yogi Berra Museum on the campus of Montclair State University in New Jersey Wednesday, March 7, 2007Live WFAN program on youth baseballLive WFAN broadcast from Museum theater hosted by youth sports expert Rick Wolff focusing on issues in Little League baseball. Guests to be announced.Regular Museum admissionTo RSVP: (973) 655-2378Or listen from 7-9 Wednesday night
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 6, 2007 Posted March 6, 2007 Officer Stanley Jefferson was yesterday's most popular lookup at the UMDB.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 From the minor league transactions at BA:]New York YankeesSigned 3B Aarom Baldiris* * = Former Met minor league prospect.Later
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 That's it. I hereby disown my former son. How can I face my friends again. Where did I go wrong?
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 Jeff Pearlman on Ed Hearn, the Good Guy from the "Bad Guys"...http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070307&sportCat=mlb
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