IGT: 4/23/06, Mets @ Padres, Zambrano v. Hensley

[Guest abogdan]

Mets:
Matsui, 2B
LoDuca, C
Delgado, 1B
Wright, 3B
Floyd, LF
Nady, RF
Woodward, SS
Chavez, CF
Zambrano, P

Padres:
Roberts, LF
Barfield, 2B
Giles, RF
Gonzalez, 1B
Cameron, CF
Castilla, 3B
Greene, SS
Mirabelli, C
Hensley, P

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Reyes needs a day off.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

So much for Piazza going for #400 vs. the Mets.

Reyes benched after slumping.

Still no Beltran.

[Gwreck]

Good to see Cameron back. In an interview with Eddie C. on the pregame show, he sounded a little apprehensive to be back though... "everytime I see a couple guys coming near each other, I cringe a little..."

[seawolf17]

OlerudOwned wrote: So much for Piazza going for #400 vs. the Mets.

Never underestimate the power of the dramatic pinch-hit home run.

It is good to see Cameron back.

[nymr83]

Zambrano still sucks it seems, byebye ball

[Zvon]

Zambi allows an 0-2 homer.
Not good.

1-0 Pads

[nymr83]

nice play in the hole by woodward, matsui stayed in there against a slide and got hte throw off but not in time for 2.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Matsui currently at .300 for the year. Mark this moment down. He's due up next in about twenty minutes.

[Zvon]

Nymr83 wrote: nice play in the hole by woodward, matsui stayed in there against a slide and got hte throw off but not in time for 2.

very nice play by Woody.
We could have gotten that call at 1st too.....



We need a lil offense.
OW- i just saw that replay of Wright getting hit by the pitch last night.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Keith apologizes.

Awkward silence follows.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Hernandez apologizes for "inappropriate" comments about the broad on the bench last night, and then promptly cites chapter and verse of the rules specifically prohibiting anyone other than specific personnel (players, managers, trainer and assistant trainer), regardless of gender, being on the bench.

"I sincerely apologize but, technically, fuck you."

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

Zvon wrote: Zambi allows an 0-2 homer. Not good. 1-0 Pads

Ugh, trade him for...(fill in the blank at this point)

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Trying CBSsportsline.com Game Center upon Frayed Knots mention in the thread for yesterday's game. Rather generic looking compared to ESPN and MLB, but I do like seeing the complete boxscore (both teams hitting and pitching stats) at the same time as they unfold. It has all the basic information one could want and seems to move along pretty quickly.

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: Hernandez apologizes for "inappropriate" comments about the broad on the bench last night, and then promptly cites chapter and verse of the rules specifically prohibiting anyone other than specific personnel (players, managers, trainer and assistant trainer), regardless of gender, being on the bench. "I sincerely apologize but, technically, fuck you."

Wouldn't she be specific personnel though? As an assistant trainer for the Pads? I mean she was wearing the same garb that Met training staff usually wear

[Gwreck]

Zvon wrote: OW- i just saw that replay of Wright getting hit by the pitch last night.

Howie Rose reports that Wright was asked if he thought the plunk was intentional after stealing a base when the Mets were up by 5. Wright said he didn't think so.

[nymr83]

and if Keith Hernandez had quoted he rulebook last night without bringing up her gender he'd be 100% right. But in the context of an apology it's the wrong time to read the rule.
You could have apologized and then had your partner casually mention the rule (since I'm sure the "apology" was ordered from above anyway.)

[Zvon]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: Hernandez apologizes for "inappropriate" comments about the broad on the bench last night, and then promptly cites chapter and verse of the rules specifically prohibiting anyone other than specific personnel (players, managers, trainer and assistant trainer), regardless of gender, being on the bench. "I sincerely apologize but, technically, fuck you."

I missed this --must be from last nights game, huh?
So Keith had a problem with this babe, or what?
What did he say last night?

[nymr83]

]Wouldn't she be specific personnel though? As an assistant trainer for the Pads? I mean she was wearing the same garb that Met training staff usually wear

no, because the head trainer and assidtant trainer are allowed (thats 2 trainers), she was a 3rd "trainer", which isn't allowed.

[Zvon]

a somewhat smoother 2nd inning for Victor

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

Nymr83 wrote: ]Wouldn't she be specific personnel though? As an assistant trainer for the Pads? I mean she was wearing the same garb that Met training staff usually wear no, because the head trainer and assidtant trainer are allowed (thats 2 trainers), she was a 3rd "trainer", which isn't allowed.

Ahhhh, never mind...

[TransMonk]

I love Keith's honesty...it is refreshingly different for an announcer to actually speak his mind (even if it's not PC).

Anyone offended by what an ex-player says about anything not having to do with baseball is just as boneheaded as the ex-player who says the comment.

I really doubt the opinons of Keith are really going to effect the overall battle of the sexes in American society. If they do, than we have bigger problems.

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

Zvon wrote: ="Bret Sabermetric"]Hernandez apologizes for "inappropriate" comments about the broad on the bench last night, and then promptly cites chapter and verse of the rules specifically prohibiting anyone other than specific personnel (players, managers, trainer and assistant trainer), regardless of gender, being on the bench. "I sincerely apologize but, technically, fuck you." I missed this --must be from last nights game, huh? So Keith had a problem with this babe, or what? What did he say last night?

The way it came out, it sounded like Keith was saying she as a woman should not have been on the bench in a diatribe against non-specific personnel, it just came out as a bit sexist

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

TransMonk wrote: I love Keith's honesty...it is refreshingly different for an announcer to actually speak his mind (even if it's not PC). Anyone offended by what an ex-player says about anything not having to do with baseball is just as boneheaded as the ex-player who says the comment. I really doubt the opinons of Keith are really going to effect the overall battle of the sexes in American society. If they do, than we have bigger problems.

I heard the comments played on a local ESPN sportscenter radio update. But dollars to doughnuts I bet the update guy only did that to tweak the Mets, and if Bobby Murcer did it, the comment would not have been replayed.

[Gwreck]

God, Endy, take a freaking pitch.

[Zvon]

mlbaseballtalk wrote: ="Zvon"] ="Bret Sabermetric"]Hernandez apologizes for "inappropriate" comments about the broad on the bench last night, and then promptly cites chapter and verse of the rules specifically prohibiting anyone other than specific personnel (players, managers, trainer and assistant trainer), regardless of gender, being on the bench. "I sincerely apologize but, technically, fuck you." I missed this --must be from last nights game, huh? So Keith had a problem with this babe, or what? What did he say last night? The way it came out, it sounded like Keith was saying she as a woman should not have been on the bench in a diatribe against non-specific personnel, it just came out as a bit sexist

shame on Keith. *Z plays his lil violin*
He didnt really say just cuz she's a woman, right?
I love the way these things get digested and then spit out again.
He did pick the one who was unqualified to be there correctly, did he not?

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

He did say "What is that girl doing in the dugout?" though, making it seem that he was going after her as a woman though at first.

The reporter on the update I heard this morning after playing Hernandez's "thats distracting" quote said "Sure, its distracting Keith" so its been interpreted as Keith being sexist

[Guest abogdan]

]He didnt really say just cuz she's a woman, right?

It was heavily implied. He said something along the lines of, "I'm not saying women belong only in the kitchen, but . . ." I don't remember exactly what all of his comments were, but the general impression I received was the he was expressing his complete shock that a woman was sitting in a MLB dugout wearing a uniform. Even if it was an ugly Padres camouflage one.

[Zvon]

well, I guess they'll spin it however they see fit.
Good job by Hernandez to nip it in the bud.

LoDuca isnt looking like no defensive upgrade behind the plate.
Passball.

[Zvon]

abogdan wrote: He said something along the lines of, "I'm not saying women belong only in the kitchen, but . . ." .

So he aint sexist.
Just has a bad sense of appropriete humor