A.P. Discuss SNY Thread

[metirish]

Yeah and the studio hosts are brutal, no idea where they found them.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

They really need help with their on-screen scoreboard.
Betamit's homer led to a dropdown reading "SOLO HOME RUN/KYLE DAVIES". Not the first time something like that happened.

[HahnSolo]

When are they going to start airing these Met Classics that I've seen a million commercials for? And will there be any games NOT from 1986?
Not sure if they exist anywhere, but I'd love to see any of the '69 and '73 postseason games, the Jimmy Qualls game, the Darling-Tudor 11-inning Straw home run game.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'd love to see lost classics --- the Steve Henderson walkoff from 1980, the ten-inning one-hitter from Terry Leach, the 10-run inning featuring an Inside-the-Parker from Doug Flynn.

The 24-inning jobbie...

[Willets Point]

->the Steve Henderson walkoff from 1980<-

Special game for me.

[Guest abogdan]

The next Mets Classic is scheduled for Tues, 5/16 at 1 PM. It's the same NL East clincher from 1986 that they've showed a few times already.

[Elster88]

I'd like the game were Orosco and McDowell(?) played the outfield.

[soupcan]

Willets Point wrote: ->the Steve Henderson walkoff from 1980<- Special game for me.

Speaking of Steve Henderson games - this one has always been a fond memory for me.

Silvio Martinez first ML start, tosses a one hitter.

[Guest abogdan]

]I'd like the game were Orosco and McDowell(?) played the outfield.

7/22/86 Great game. Daryl got tossed in the 6th for arguing a strike call. Ray Knight and Kevin Mitchell got tossed after a brawl in in extra innings. Gary Carter played 3B. Orosco and McDowell were both left in to hit twice.

[soupcan]

I can still see Ray Knight's eyes bug out and face get all puffy dfter he popped Davis

[metirish]

This fella is just so annoying...

[HahnSolo]

That McDowell-Orosco game was all made possible by a Dave Parker drop of a routine fly that would have ended the game.

[metirish]

One thing I have learned form watching Mets games on SNY is that Gary,Ron and Keith are just huge Jets fans, Gary being a 29 year season ticket holder, wish they would stop plugging the Woody Johnson show, like he's going to tell us anything worthwhile.

[Frayed Knot]

It's about the only other original programming on that channel for now -- it's only natural that the station's going to want them humping it for all it's worth.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Last night was pretty unprecedented for a Mets broadcast, having two in-game interviews with uniform personnel --- bullpen coach Guy Conti, while he was charting the game, and starting pitcher Pedro Martinez shortly after he exited and while the Mets bats were turning his effort into a no-decision.

I had typically mixed feelings about it. It felt kind of All-Star Gamey. I love love love access, and they were really informative interviews. But I felt it was really invasive for the personnel involved, but maybe they felt somehow it was a professional obligation to tolerate the public aaccess into team-only time and space to cooperate with the team-owned media.

I felt like I happily caught a glimpse of a pretty girl naked but then felt bad because she was a friend of mine.

Maybe not quite like that.

[Farmer Ted]

Liked the Conti interview. I have no idea what goes on down there other than once having my seats overlook the pen from the loge. Hope they interview the bullpen catcher next.

The interview with the Milledge family was ass.

Cotter, however, dressing as the Sausage and racing in Milwaukee was a gem.

[Vic Sage]

]I felt like I happily caught a glimpse of a pretty girl naked but then felt bad because she was a friend of mine.

I'd never feel bad about catching a glimpse of a pretty gir naked... if she's a friend, she'd understand my lack of remorse.

Similarly, if the upside of having to endure the awful broadcasts by this amateurish, mickey mouse network is that we get unprecedented access... well, i don't see the downside. Pedro was out of the game. The interview didn't interfere with him doing his job, or the play of the game. It illicited genuine responses in a way the more premeditated, prepared press conference-type interviews do not.

[Guest Edgy DC]

All that is absolutely so, but I guess the downside I feel is captured in your spelling of illicit. If the players feel they're bending over too much for the man (Pedro certainly seemed strained to tolerate Chris Kotter and bouffant), it'll give them one more reason to be resentful when things are going bad. Keith's been out of the game for 15 years and he's grousing about invasions of players' space.

It's probably nothing and paranoia on my part. Hey, scoreless tie. Delicate balance. Let's not rock the boat.

The Milledge's have little future in entertainment. Kotter shouold have asked them about having a son named Anthony and another named Tony. They can join the the Chavezes and the Alfonzos in the Department of Redundancy Department.

[metirish]

I thought the interview with Pedro was a high point for Cotter, he's a total bollox, I sensed that Pedro was getting a little annoyed by the interview though, Cotter needs to work on his skills, after every Met win the first question he asks whatever player they get coming of the field goes something like this..." how do you guys keep doing it, you never quit right"....

[soupcan]

Where have you gone Matty Loughlin...

[metirish]

Yeah I miss Matty, especially when in Milwaukee he would go down the slide just like Bernie, or get caught by the camera crew having a conversation with Bernie...didn't he get banned from one park a few years ago?, I'm thinking it was the Bob or Miller Park.

[soupcan]

Oh, I don't miss him. Just wondering where he went.

[Guest Edgy DC]

To clarify, I don't think thsoe two interviews were necessarily bad, only that they crossed a line and may lead to something bad in the future.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I liked the Guy Conti interview; it provided a glimpse into an aspect of the game I knew little about. (And it occurred to me that Guy would have had little tolerance for someone like Roger McDowell.) The Pedro interview was more notable for its timing than its content. Chris Cotter continues to bring nothing to the table, unless he's dressed as a sausage.

I can't help but think that if Cotter was talking to Conti instead of Keith and Cohen (I'm building a tongue twister here) the interview wouldn't have been nearly as interesting.

The talk with Lastings' parents reminded me of similar interviews, 22 years ago, with Dan and Ella Gooden. In retrospect, that's not a good thing.

[Frayed Knot]

The only problem w/the Conti interview was that they insisted on keeping the camera frozen on Conti while I'm fretting about missing pitches. Yo dudes, show the action! We can still listen while we're doing so.

Sometimes they just give these TV production crews too many toys to play with (much worse problem on network shows than local) and they feel they need to use them all.

[metirish]

I have a kinda dumb question, when SNY or the WPIX don't have the Mets game like last Saturday or if it's a Sunday night ESPN game does Gary and the SNY crew have the night off or does Gary still call the game for future SNY airings?

[Frayed Knot]

No, there's no "phantom" calling of the game.
The network version of the game will be the only telecast that exists.


I was in Baltimore a couple years back and was wandering around the harbor an hour or two before the game when I walked right past Howie Rose (then doing TV) and his wife & kids. Just as I was about to ask him what the hell he was doing there instead of being down the street at the stadium I realized it was a network game giving him the day off to spend with the family.

[Elster88]

Who does PBP if Gary gets sick?

[Centerfield]

I was wondering that too. I hope they have a better plan in place than Keith. I remember a few years back, there were a few innings where Keith was left alone with Seaver. They might as well have handed the booth to me and my buddies. It was downright awful.

Pure speculation on my part, but I would think maybe they would bring in Howie and let Ed Coleman fill in on the radio.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I think that would make sense, too.