Cardinals (May) vs Mets (Peralta): 6/9/26, 7:10pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

Fastball Freddy is on the hill, put the Cardinals in their place, please.

	WED	THU	FRI	SAT	SUN	MON	TOT
Luke Weaver	10	0	7	0	18	0	35
Joey Gerber	10	0	0	0	0	0	10
Huascar Brazobán	0	0	17	0	21	0	38
Devin Williams	0	0	0	0	20	0	20
David Peterson	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Cionel Pérez	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Brooks Raley	16	0	0	0	14	0	30
Austin Warren	0	0	0	34	0	0	34
A.J. Minter	0	0	14	0	13	0	27

 

[MFS62]

Just saw this. In 1947, the Cardinals voted to strike rather than integrate:

https://news1.newstoday123.com/tienchung8386/the-secret-meeting-that-almost-destroyed-baseball-forever/?fbclid=IwY2xjawSVJ55leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFiSUpqellpTDg3WnE3eEZVc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHpIeej9JEMBhb-QIsX5e1-9IU5AGn7xRGnVvAtOP-rPLJnAOQ68rOXcY6xC-_aem_RMX8GdQGkJq0UDP3ASmAPg

Later

[Centerfield]

Mets have the pitching advantage tonight. Take the W. 
 

This is when the 2024 team went on a run. If they don’t do it now, you can’t make those comparisons anymore. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 hour ago, MFS62 said:

Just saw this. In 1947, the Cardinals voted to strike rather than integrate:

https://news1.newstoday123.com/tienchung8386/the-secret-meeting-that-almost-destroyed-baseball-forever/?fbclid=IwY2xjawSVJ55leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFiSUpqellpTDg3WnE3eEZVc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHpIeej9JEMBhb-QIsX5e1-9IU5AGn7xRGnVvAtOP-rPLJnAOQ68rOXcY6xC-_aem_RMX8GdQGkJq0UDP3ASmAPg

Later

Looked into it, and it appears Musial did not participate in that nonsense, and was okay with integration. Good to know I don't have to think Stan The Man was a racist prick (just the rest of the Cardinals, and I'm 100% okay with doing that).

[seawolf17]

And Alvarez is back! Surprise.

RF Benge
SS Bichette
LF Soto
1B Young
CF Ewing
2B Semien
3B Baty
DH Melendez
C Alvarez

SP Peralta

[Frayed Knot]

You've got to remember that, in those pre-expansion days, St Louis was not only MLB's westernmost town but also its southernmost and that radio station KMOX, 'The Voice of St Louis', broadcast Cardinals games to not just Missouri but Arkansas, Texas and beyond. So there was a certain degree of the Cardinals feeling like they represented the south even if not all of them were from it. The Redskins were the same in the NFL and they stayed white only until into the '60s* (not that you'd ever hear the NFL acknowledge that) because their games were carried by radio into Virginia, the Carolinas and beyond well before there were teams in Atlanta, Florida, Charlotte, etc.

The Cardinals finally integrated in the early '50s after Anheuser-Busch bought the team. The story was that when 'Gussie' Busch toured the team's training camp he asked where the black players were. When told they didn't have any black  players he asked, 'Why not, we sell beer to black people why wouldn't we sell baseball to them as well'. So maybe not an altogether humanitarian gesture on Busch's part but a practical one to him which in turn led to the same result.

 

 

 

* I once saw some pictures (probably in a magazine though I can't remember) about the Redskins one of which was of a teenager/young man carrying a sign demanding to KEEP THE REDSKINS WHITE. I wonder if that guy ever realized the irony of his wording.

[MFS62]

1 hour ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Looked into it, and it appears Musial did not participate in that nonsense, and was okay with integration. Good to know I don't have to think Stan The Man was a racist prick (just the rest of the Cardinals, and I'm 100% okay with doing that).

Stan was a class act and a gentleman.

Later

[ashie62]

The Cardinals are ahead of schedule with their build. This series may say alot about both teams

Dustin May has been know to throw a good game now and

Warm weather Semien has hit stride finally

[ashie62]

Moving right along with the 1st inning. I haven't seen KC around in a long time. I hope he is well

[Brock Beauchamp]

2 hours ago, MFS62 said:

Stan was a class act and a gentleman.

Later

I knew he was a northerner, and hoped he wasn't part of it. And he wasn't.

[ashie62]

19 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I knew he was a northerner, and hoped he wasn't part of it. And he wasn't.

Cardinals up 2-0. Sotos' butchery in LF hasn't helped

[ashie62]

This is getting out of hand

[Frayed Knot]

Butchery?

[ashie62]

He was playing hackeysack in left 

[The Hot Corner]

The Cardinals shortstop, Winn, has an absolute gun for an arm.  He damn near took Alvarez's head off turning a double play.  

[ashie62]

Freddy Peralta is hurting his trade value

[ashie62]

This sucks. Seinfeld is on somewhere

[Edgy MD]

I would have the course of this game altered greatly.

I give fewer than zero shits about Peralta's trade value.

[Edgy MD]

Carson Benge, dive for flies dropping in, when they're going to only bounce a few meters away if you come up short.

Don't dive for liners that are going to roll to the wall.

[Edgy MD]

Bo  Bichette, still swinging at everything.

[Centerfield]

This is bad. 
 

Anytime you think they might do something, the 2026 Mets remind you who they are. 

[metirish]

Just left the game , we went for Puerto Rico Night,  got there early,  section 520 , had fun , Peralta is such a disappointment,  as are the Mets as a whole obviously

 

 

[Edgy MD]

Well, that was a poor showing for Puerto Rico.

[metirish]

[Gwreck]

First time at the park in a few weeks and man that was demoralizing.  Bad approaches at the plate.  Very sloppy defense.  Total crap from Peralta.  Team looks completely unprepared to play, let alone win.  Just unacceptable all around.

 

[ashie62]

13 minutes ago, metirish said:

 

6 minutes ago, Gwreck said:

First time at the park in a few weeks and man that was demoralizing.  Bad approaches at the plate.  Very sloppy defense.  Total crap from Peralta.  Team looks completely unprepared to play, let alone win.  Just unacceptable all around.

 

My take also. Cardinals are looking forward and playing hard

The Mets seem openly unprepared to give it their efforts to win a baseball game

This season may or may not end well but the optics are crushing. If they're not listening to Mendy then make a change 

It's more of an indictment of management that they haven't made that change

 

[Centerfield]

Is there a person alive that thinks Mendoza should be back in 2027?  Obviously not. So there’s no sense in keeping him around. The remainder of 2026 should be an audition for the strongest in house candidate on an interim basis. 
 

at least you can gauge what you have. 

[Centerfield]

I freed up in time to catch the second half of this game. But by the time I checked the score it was pointless. So a second straight night of no baseball. 
 

2026 is going to be the season that never happened. And 2027 might actually not happen. 

[Gwreck]

6 minutes ago, Centerfield said:

strongest in house candidate on an interim basis. 

Is there a hitting or bench or pitching coach that is doing a good job?  I couldn’t identify one.  
 

I would fire Mendoza and try an interim external candidate because Mendoza is bad and the team can’t fall to sixth place.  I can’t think of a justification for an internal candidate at the MLB level being worthy.  Maybe the Syracuse manager?

[Centerfield]

I’ve heard Kai Correa being mentioned as a potential future manager. I know nothing about him. But considering the incumbent, I’m more than ready to try whatever is behind Door Number 1. 
 

I’d be fine with whatever external candidate is around as well. I went with the assumption that there aren’t many external guys who would take an interim label. But sure. Again, anything but status quo. 
 

I don’t know if any of the Mets coaches would make a good manager. They don’t seem to be very good coaches.