Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 I can see players preferring the Mets over many other teams, but I can also easily see players preferring the Dodgers over the Mets.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 Of course Would they prefer the Pirates at this pay grade?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 SALARY CAP anyone? Good God, no.Never.That does not protect fans, it protects owners.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 In the mornings lately, it takes three or four tries to start the oven.My wife did not like it. I just think it is a side effect of the weather being cold. Tire pressure gauges go off in early winter, and it takes a few tries to start the oven.She was not satisfied. She asked if there was anything that could be done. I was not bright and told her that, yes, we could clean the igniter, but that is a lot of hassle. Dumb, dumb, dumb. She says that she cannot get the oven started. I remind her that it was like this last winter, and the winter before that, and then spring came, and everything was jake.She told me she found a video of a guy with a five-minute demo on how to clean the igniter on a Whirlpool oven. I have actually done this before, some time in living memory — back when I was young and had all the time in the world — but even if I had not, NOTHING lasts five minutes, but there I am, removing the oven door, removing the floor of the oven, pulling up the gas tubes and the igniter. Five minutes equals half a day. Ten minutes is a full day. An hour is a week. (EVERYBODY should KNOW this!) This is how home repairs go. And of course, we have to clean these filthy disgusting surfaces, and I am taking apart the door because somehow filth gets betweenthe inside window and the outside window.I get all that **** done and BAM! the oven starts with one try. I get kisses, but I know that I do not deserve them. At least, not yet. I still have to re-assemble this oven, and screws have disappeared into the housing. To recover them, I have to remove more housing and risk losing more screws. I get all that done, leave a few screws out because I would rather live dangerously than go screw shopping. It is all down to putting the oven door back on, and ... one of the hinges is JAMMED and cannot be un-jammed. I am online looking for a replacement hinge, while she is on the phone with the girlfriend of the Trump-supporting HVAC guy down the block, hoping she can send him over to un-jam our hinge which never should have been ****ed with in the first place.But, you know, I need machinist's tools to unjam this mofo, and I do not have them, and I go from goat to hero to goat to hero to goat, and the door is going to be off the oven all week or more as her piano students come and go, and conclude that we live like animals.And I am trying to find a way to explain to her that if I hadn't spent all morning fixing what didn't need to be fixed and breaking what didn't need to be broken, I could have stuck to what was really important and stood sentry over the Mets so nobody would sign away their closer, but somehow that line of thinking is "irrational" and "insane" and so I'm the bad guy.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 Edgys fault Oh and Edgy, you tried. I took my oven door off once to try to clean it and I’m lucky I’m not divorced
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Author Posted December 9, 2025 Two other factors that didn’t help the Mets in trying to retain Edwin Diaz: Diaz’s brother Alexis was with the Dodgers last season and spoke glowingly of the staff and infrastructure. Also, Edwin Diaz was less than thrilled the Mets dumped pitching coach Jeremy Hefner.Puma
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 Two other factors that didn’t help the Mets in trying to retain Edwin Diaz: Diaz’s brother Alexis was with the Dodgers last season and spoke glowingly of the staff and infrastructure. Also, Edwin Diaz was less than thrilled the Mets dumped pitching coach Jeremy Hefner.Puma I had read that the Mets were interested in acquiring Edwin's brother. I guess this means he is off the market.Edgy's story about playing with gas lines had me checking CNN, but it sounds like he did a good job.Later
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Author Posted December 9, 2025 This sounds like nonsense from Puma btw
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 In the mornings lately, it takes three or four tries to start the oven.My wife did not like it. I just think it is a side effect of the weather being cold. Tire pressure gauges go off in early winter, and it takes a few tries to start the oven.She was not satisfied. She asked if there was anything that could be done. I was not bright and told her that, yes, we could clean the igniter, but that is a lot of hassle. Dumb, dumb, dumb. She says that she cannot get the oven started. I remind her that it was like this last winter, and the winter before that, and then spring came, and everything was jake.She told me she found a video of a guy with a five-minute demo on how to clean the igniter on a Whirlpool oven. I have actually done this before, some time in living memory — back when I was young and had all the time in the world — but even if I had not, NOTHING lasts five minutes, but there I am, removing the oven door, removing the floor of the oven, pulling up the gas tubes and the igniter. Five minutes equals half a day. Ten minutes is a full day. An hour is a week. (EVERYBODY should KNOW this!) This is how home repairs go. And of course, we have to clean these filthy disgusting surfaces, and I am taking apart the door because somehow filth gets betweenthe inside window and the outside window.I get all that **** done and BAM! the oven starts with one try. I get kisses, but I know that I do not deserve them. At least, not yet. I still have to re-assemble this oven, and screws have disappeared into the housing. To recover them, I have to remove more housing and risk losing more screws. I get all that done, leave a few screws out because I would rather live dangerously than go screw shopping. It is all down to putting the oven door back on, and ... one of the hinges is JAMMED and cannot be un-jammed. I am online looking for a replacement hinge, while she is on the phone with the girlfriend of the Trump-supporting HVAC guy down the block, hoping she can send him over to un-jam our hinge which never should have been ****ed with in the first place.But, you know, I need machinist's tools to unjam this mofo, and I do not have them, and I go from goat to hero to goat to hero to goat, and the door is going to be off the oven all week or more as her piano students come and go, and conclude that we live like animals.And I am trying to find a way to explain to her that if I hadn't spent all morning fixing what didn't need to be fixed and breaking what didn't need to be broken, I could have stuck to what was really important and stood sentry over the Mets so nobody would sign away their closer, but somehow that line of thinking is "irrational" and "insane" and so I'm the bad guy. You're Big Al, aren't you?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 The New York Post reporting that the Mets' offer was $66 million over three years with "modest deferrals." I understood those deferrals were moneys deferred from that $66 million rather than on top of that figure.The reporting also stated that the Mets indicated to Diaz that there was "wiggle room." I would guess that the $1-million-per-year salary difference and the deferments would fit within my definition of that term, but he up and bolted anyhow.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 It was not of any real priority of Diaz to remain a MetSounds like Diaz got frustrated or something and may have acted in hasteHe's going to injure himself in a WBC celebration anyway so bullet dodged, or not
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 From his Facebook page, Joe Macdonald trying to make Mets fans feel better:Let me talk everyone off the ledge here:Edwin Diaz is not Mariano Rivera. In fact he only had two great seasons out of the six he played for the Mets.Those seasons 22 and 25 were ironically walk years where we could leverage himself. He stupidly got hurt in 23 during the WBC, which even Buck said torpedoed their season. Oh and let’s not forget he was suspended in 24 for the sticky stuff. If he didnt have thst cool walk in song, Diaz would not be as beloved. Will he be missed? Sure. Is he replaceable? Absolutely. Sign Robert Suarez, teaming him with Devin Williams and just like that the bullpen is in better shape. Later
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 Let me talk everyone off the ledge here:Edwin Diaz is not Mariano Rivera. In fact he only had two great seasons out of the six he played for the Mets.Those seasons 22 and 25 were ironically walk years where we could leverage himself. He stupidly got hurt in 23 during the WBC, which even Buck said torpedoed their season. Oh and let’s not forget he was suspended in 24 for the sticky stuff. If he didnt have thst cool walk in song, Diaz would not be as beloved. Will he be missed? Sure. Is he replaceable? Absolutely. And he can't even fix an oven properly!!
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 I am not sure Joe McDonald knows what "ironically" means.If the issue is that I am in love with Diaz, I did not know that. Nor did I know I was on the ledge.Man, it has been a busy day.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2025 Posted December 9, 2025 **** this news. make it go away. go sign pete. and, y'know, more relievers, too.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 I've had some time to process this now. And even after a few hours, the only thing I can think is how badly they ****ed this up. And I don't even care if they sign Suarez, or Pete Fairbanks, or whatever. When elite talent is available, that's when you spend the money. Edwin Diaz has proven to be elite, and proven he can do it in NY. It's a no brainer. And if you're willing to go to $66M, you damn well better not let him walk for $69M. And sure, Diaz ultimately has to make that decision. But if you didn't know you'd lose him for $3M, then you misread your leverage.It is one thing to be a bad GM when you have no money. It's another thing altogether to **** up this badly with nearly unlimited resources. A fourth year in November gets this done without the Dodgers ever getting involved. Completely misplayed.And more than anything, I hate losing players. I was crushed when Strawberry left. I'm still not over losing deGrom. And I don't know how I'll feel about Diaz, since he's not homegrown like the others, but I'm sure I'm going to hate this for years. Of course, in the end, I want to win. But rational or not, as a fan, you develop an attachment to these players. You want to win, but more than that, you want to win with your guys. And not understanding that a big part of the fanbase feels that way is a big miss. So **** David Stearns. And **** Trevor Megill, or lets be honest, whatever scrub reliever he signs to pitch the 8th inning. **** Bobby Bonilla, and Justin Verlander, and Neil Walker and all those guys they bring in to fill the void but fall woefully short of ever doing it.
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 I don't know, but I think not retaining Edwin Diaz isgoing to be the end of the world. Pitchers come and pitchers go, and he's gone. Seems his choice. So **** David Stearns. And **** Trevor Megill, or lets be honest, whatever scrub reliever he signs to pitch the 8th inning. **** Bobby Bonilla, and Justin Verlander, and Neil Walker and all those guys they bring in to fill the void but fall woefully short of ever doing it. Lol, CF. Tell us how you really feel!!
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 Neil Walker had been out in the hall, just waiting for a good asskicking.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 I’m with CF in the “anger” stage.I loved Nimmo but I can understand the move from a baseball perspective and trying to make the team better.Diaz, however, is the best at what he does. Letting him leave is a travesty.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Author Posted December 10, 2025 I'm still angry too , Cohen and Stearns have some work to win over the fan base, the anger is real out there , bewilderment too
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 http://ultimatemets.com/covers/2025/20251210_NSD_02.jpg http://ultimatemets.com/covers/2025/20251210_NYP_02.jpghttp://ultimatemets.com/covers/2025/20251210_NYDN_02.jpg
Marshmallowmilkshake Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 Diaz' brother has been a real pain in the butt. First he jumps on his back and causes the celebration injury -- irresponsible and unnecessary -- and now he prompts him to head to LA.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 Hopefully Mrs Met and her horn go with him
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 Damn, that's some frigid ****.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 And the stupid Borough race. And the Queens crew. Whoever came up with the Helsley intro. And turning off the lights during a HR trot. Let me see our hero complete his victory lap.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 Hopefully Mrs Met and her horn go with him What are you suggesting about Edwin and Mrs. M?And how does the horn play into this?
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted December 10, 2025 Posted December 10, 2025 Hey all I know is what Mr Met told me and he’s not happy
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2025 Posted December 11, 2025 This one doesn't hurt as bad as Alonso. Alonso was a born and bred Met. Diaz was a fairly inconsistent closer who gave us six years of solid pitching, but was just a long-term rental. If you combine his first three years, he had a 4.00 ERA; if you combine his last three years, he had a 2.08 mark. However, he only had two truly great full seasons in seven years with the club. In typical Mets fashion, we'll probably see them go a decade through the closer weeds of guys akin to Frank Francisco before they finally bite the bullet and sign another star closer, which is the downside. BUT, the Mets DO have a lot of (ever dwindling) homegrown pitching options that could step up. They've let too many of their promising hurlers go these past few years (Vasil, Hamel, Shook), but look at what they still have: Tong, McLean, Sproat, Ross, etc. Not all those guys are going to fit into a 5-man rotation, so they might have to Lugo/Gsellman them into the bullpen. I don't think Devin Williams is the answer, actually.To Diaz's benefit, he is right on the peripheral of dark horse Hall of Fame watch territory, and if anything is going to help his case, going to a perennial winner like the Dodgers is it.Just like Nimmo, this one doesn't bum me out that much. Nimmo gave us a lot of years and the Mets sold high. They got a good return. Diaz played the free agency game and got a better deal. He was an import, now he's an export. It is what it is.
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