Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I'm good with Beltran ... not so much on Andruw.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I'm good with Beltran ... not so much on Andruw. This.And no Utley gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.Later
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 21 Posted January 21 My statement had nothing to do with liking (or not) any particular player.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) Carlos Beltrán was asked about potentially representing the Mets on his Hall of Fame plaque:"I will make the decision with my wife and my kids. I'll have to make sure how the Hall of Fame process works. That's a question that I have. I want to ask them what are my options.There's no doubt the Mets are a big part of my identity as a player. Almost 7 years in that organization, I got there with a big contract and all that. And being able to stay with the team as an advisor in some capacity with the baseball club, there's no doubt that the Mets have a lot of weight in that decision"SNY Edited January 21 by metirish
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Jones and Beltran were coincidentally born one day apart, on April 23 and 24, 1977 respectively.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I like to see guys make the hallAfter Beltran the next inductees should be the steroid guysBeltran has opened your door.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Jones and Beltran were coincidentally born one day apart, on April 23 and 24, 1977 respectively. HoF'ers Frank Thomas and Jeff Bagwell share an exact birth date (5/27/68) although were not in the same HoF class.
Marshmallowmilkshake Old-Timey Member Posted January 21 Author Posted January 21 Was nice to see Wright pick up votes. I don't think he'll ever get voted in, but it's nice that he can remain on the ballot and be part of the conversation each year.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted January 21 Posted January 21 The sixth Hall of Famer to hail from Puerto Rico, Beltrán joins Roberto Clemente, Orlando Cepeda, Roberto Alomar, Ivan Rodriguez and Edgar Martínez (who was born in New York but raised on the island) in Cooperstown.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I like to see guys make the hallAfter Beltran the next inductees should be the steroid guysBeltran has opened your door. Unless you are the guy on Facebook claiming Beltran was always juiced to the gills, his crime was more Gaylord Perry/Leo Durocher in nature.I understand wanting to equate the two, but in the end they are a bit apples to oranges
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 21 Posted January 21 "And being able to stay with the team as an advisor in some capacity with the baseball club, there's no doubt that the Mets have a lot of weight in that decision." I like that even Carlos doesn't quite know what his role is with the team.
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I was off on some. More than usual. I nailed a few, and was within 0.5%-2% on others, but was way off on others. I wonder if I did my formula different this time around -- like I said, I piece it back together each year and have never actually written it down -- though I don't think I did. It's pretty straight-forward. Perhaps it was because it was such a weak ballot and voters were more willing to act in unorthodox ways. Or perhaps it was because we are seeing a tectonic shift in how certain players are analyzed that had a big effect. In other words, a lot of the old guard who was resistant to voting for certain guys (aided by having a weak ballot to play with) were finally willing to vote for names they wouldn't have in the past. Note that the ones that I was off on the most all have something about them beyond their raw, traditional stats that would (or would have in the past) dissuaded people from voting. Beltran and the cheating scandal, Jones and his mystery 50+ HR season and steroid rumors, Andy Pettitte and HGH, Felix Hernandez and the shift in how pitchers are analyzed, Chase Utley and his case being so sabermetric-heavy and not traditional stat-heavy. In other words, their previous vote totals weren't 'natural,' they were suppressed in part by voters who refused to vote for them for things beyond their traditional 'performance.' But the weak ballot and the changing of the analytical tides allowed for that inorganic suppression to be lifted somewhat and the numbers shot up to where they would tracked all along if these players didn't all have some form of asterisk.
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