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  1. 1. Who are your Hall of Famers? Vote for up to 10

    • Bobby Abreau
      4
    • Carlos Beltran
      15
    • Ryan Braun
      0
    • Mark Buehrle
      0
    • Shin-Soo Choo
      0
    • Edwin Encarnacion
      0
    • Alex Gordon
      0
    • Cole Hamels
      1
    • Felix Hernandez
      6
    • Torii Hunter
      2
    • Andruw Jones
      10
    • Matt Kemp
      0
    • Nick Markakis
      0
    • Daniel Murphy
      0
    • Dustin Pedroia
      1
    • Hunter Pence
      0
    • Andy Pettitte
      4
    • Rick Porcello
      0
    • Manny Ramirez
      3
    • Arod
      5
    • Francisco Rodriguez
      3
    • Jimmy Rollins
      2
    • Chase Utley
      1
    • Omar Vizquel
      3
    • David Wright
      7


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I'm good with Beltran ... not so much on Andruw.

 

This.

And no Utley gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.

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Posted (edited)

Carlos Beltrán was asked about potentially representing the Mets on his Hall of Fame plaque:


"I will make the decision with my wife and my kids. I'll have to make sure how the Hall of Fame process works. That's a question that I have. I want to ask them what are my options.


There's no doubt the Mets are a big part of my identity as a player. Almost 7 years in that organization, I got there with a big contract and all that. And being able to stay with the team as an advisor in some capacity with the baseball club, there's no doubt that the Mets have a lot of weight in that decision"


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Edited by metirish
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Posted

I like to see guys make the hall


After Beltran the next inductees should be the steroid guys


Beltran has opened your door.

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Jones and Beltran were coincidentally born one day apart, on April 23 and 24, 1977 respectively.

 

HoF'ers Frank Thomas and Jeff Bagwell share an exact birth date (5/27/68) although were not in the same HoF class.

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The sixth Hall of Famer to hail from Puerto Rico, Beltrán joins Roberto Clemente, Orlando Cepeda, Roberto Alomar, Ivan Rodriguez and Edgar Martínez (who was born in New York but raised on the island) in Cooperstown.
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I like to see guys make the hall


After Beltran the next inductees should be the steroid guys


Beltran has opened your door.

 

Unless you are the guy on Facebook claiming Beltran was always juiced to the gills, his crime was more Gaylord Perry/Leo Durocher in nature.


I understand wanting to equate the two, but in the end they are a bit apples to oranges

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"And being able to stay with the team as an advisor in some capacity with the baseball club, there's no doubt that the Mets have a lot of weight in that decision."

 

I like that even Carlos doesn't quite know what his role is with the team.

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I was off on some. More than usual. I nailed a few, and was within 0.5%-2% on others, but was way off on others. I wonder if I did my formula different this time around -- like I said, I piece it back together each year and have never actually written it down -- though I don't think I did. It's pretty straight-forward. Perhaps it was because it was such a weak ballot and voters were more willing to act in unorthodox ways. Or perhaps it was because we are seeing a tectonic shift in how certain players are analyzed that had a big effect. In other words, a lot of the old guard who was resistant to voting for certain guys (aided by having a weak ballot to play with) were finally willing to vote for names they wouldn't have in the past. Note that the ones that I was off on the most all have something about them beyond their raw, traditional stats that would (or would have in the past) dissuaded people from voting. Beltran and the cheating scandal, Jones and his mystery 50+ HR season and steroid rumors, Andy Pettitte and HGH, Felix Hernandez and the shift in how pitchers are analyzed, Chase Utley and his case being so sabermetric-heavy and not traditional stat-heavy. In other words, their previous vote totals weren't 'natural,' they were suppressed in part by voters who refused to vote for them for things beyond their traditional 'performance.' But the weak ballot and the changing of the analytical tides allowed for that inorganic suppression to be lifted somewhat and the numbers shot up to where they would tracked all along if these players didn't all have some form of asterisk.

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