Next to go

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Martino tweeted "Mets news incoming" and I see Pham is not in the lineup today. Cahna and Verlander are, though.

[Edgy MD]

A homer yesterday and healthy enough legs to play the outfield made me think that Pham was slipping away.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Pham hugwatch is on

[bmfc1]

Martino tweeted "Mets news incoming" and I see Pham is not in the lineup today. Cahna and Verlander are, though.

Martino followed that with news about Sam Coonrod's rehab. In other words, Martino was being a dick.

[metirish]

[Edgy MD]

I'm making a prediction that tomorrow morning will include some red-hot Luke Voit-for-Kash Konsiderations news.

[Centerfield]

Let's trade Raley.



1. Middle relievers are hard to predict. Might suck later if we hold onto him. Who knows.

2. Seems like the market is hot for middle relievers at the deadline

3. Isn't he the homophobe? Trade the dickhead

[MFS62]

Getting closer to the deadline.

If they trade anyone else, he may have to bail out of the team plane on the way to KC.



Later

[Edgy MD]

Well, there are also AAA guys that could go — Michael Peréz, Tomás Nido, Luke Voit, for instance.



But I imagine the plane flight won't be an issue. Kansas City is delightfully located as equidistant as can be from all other MLB cities.

[Chad ochoseis]

=MFS62 post_id=133469 time=1690855546 user_id=60]
Getting closer to the deadline.

If they trade anyone else, he may have to bail out of the team plane on the way to KC.



Later

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

I understand the benefit to trading the guys who will be free agents at the end of the year.



I kinda get trading Scherzer if it frees up money to get Nola, Snell or any of the younger starters who will be free next year, and you get a decent prospect.



I don't understand the talk about trading Verlander, an ace who is under contract for next season. If the team is truly retooling and looks to contend next year, and starting pitching is at a premium, what is the benefit in moving him? What am I missing?

[metirish]

I guess the question is ,and Verlander asked it too , do the Mets see themselves as "going for it " next season? If not then he is open to a trade

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: Well, there are also AAA guys that could go — Michael Peréz, Tomás Nido, Luke Voit, for instance. But I imagine the plane flight won't be an issue. Kansas City is delightfully located as equidistant as can be from all other MLB cities.

I know. But it seems sad that a guy gets on the plane for a road trip only to be told when he gets there that he has been traded. Then he has to jump on a plane to go somewhere else.

I wonder if they give a guy a hint there are negotiations going on before he gets on he plane so he'll be mentally prepared. Or do the players accept it as "part of the business"?

Is it the job of the travelling secretary of his old team or new team to arrange the flights and luggage? I'm not sure.



Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

They fly like a million times a year. What's another flight?

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I like the expression "talks have intensified" as though there was a polite negotiation at first. and now it's evolved into shouting at one another and banging fists on the desk

[A Boy Named Seo]

=Centerfield post_id=133413 time=1690830626 user_id=65]
Let's trade Raley.



1. Middle relievers are hard to predict. Might suck later if we hold onto him. Who knows.

2. Seems like the market is hot for middle relievers at the deadline

3. Isn't he the homophobe? Trade the dickhead

[ashie62]

The Orioles are loaded with prospects beyond Jackson Holliday



Colton Cowser

Heston Kjerstad

Connor Norby

Colby Mayo



I would take any one of these for Verlander

[Cowtipper]

I'd really like them to clean up some of the lesser-name gobbledygook they tried earlier this year. Ditch the guys like Yacabonis, Santana, Reyes and Brigham. I think Nido could go. Maybe find a suitor for Carlos Carrasco. Get rid of Vogelbach.



More controversially, I think it wouldn't hurt to get rid of Peterson and, in the long run, McNeil. McNeil is too inconsistent and has always, to me, seemed like an empty hitter. He's not quite the Jeff we had in the 2010s anymore.



But I think of baseball trades from a Baseball Mogul-type mindset. That is, more from a point of fantasy. It's why I'm not a GM.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=Cowtipper post_id=133511 time=1690901930 user_id=166]
I think Nido could go.

[ashie62]

An advantage to being retired I can watch MLB Network wire to wire

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

I think the other trades says they don't think they have a shot this year. I think a Verlander trade tells us they don't think they have a shot next year, either.

[kcmets]

This notion that they're punting on 2024 too is preposterous and silly.



Hell, with 57 games left in 2023 a ten game winning streak puts them

within sniffing distance of the playoffs.



Go ShAMs!

[batmagadanleadoff]

I dunno. There's lotsa credible buzz that Alonso can be had. McNeil, too. Maybe not by this year's trading deadline, but in the upcoming off-season. I'm skeptical but that's what sources are saying.

[metirish]

The buzz

[kcmets]

They trade Alonso and I am so done with the Mets and baseball.

[Edgy MD]

Whoah!

[metirish]

It would be a hell of a sell to the fan base

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

That would be a total tear-down. How do you go from 101 wins to a tear-down?



Seems like it would be a tough sell to David Stearns, too. Maybe they should wait for him to (possibly) come on board before blowing up the team.

[A Boy Named Seo]

If a McDeal came for McNeil, I'd be all over it.



I love Pete and think he could still be a dangerous DH up til around 35 or so, but he'll certainly want a contract flirting with age 40. He'll be 29 next season. If someone's calling, I'm listening.

[Edgy MD]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=133524 time=1690908770 user_id=119]How do you go from 101 wins to a tear-down?