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He'll be in the majors sooner rather than later. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see him there tonight.


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Edgy MD wrote:

He'll be in the majors sooner rather than later. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see him there tonight.


I'd be a little surprised at tonight, but not at all if it was in the next week or two.


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so, what would you do with him once you brought him up? where does he play? because i'd want his bat in the lineup every day.



i'd love it if he and/or baty could play LF, but i'm not sure how much that's the case. do you drop pham if so?



if you line him up at DH, do you drop vogelbach? or does vogelbach move to the bench and either EE or guillorme gets the axe?



cutting vogelbach is probably the best call from a roster construction standpoint, i think, in that he gives you the least flexibility and defensive utility, but he's also the best hitter so far of the four i've mentioned.



what are your thoughts?


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If you think he's most likely to initially take Canha's at-bats, that (with a little stretching into other people's territory) could get him into the lineup something like 70% of the time.



But that's the rub with competing and transitioning a the same time. You're put between the Scylla of assembling the lineup most likely to win the night and the Charybdis of assembling the lineup most likely to help you win down the road.



I think both can be done. I don't think talent is going to rot if a player is deployed 50-90% of the time on a winning team, depending on how things develop. Plus, he can hopefully get the special experience of being part of a winning team.



Álvarez came up and started 50% of the time, and that seems to be increasing. Baty came up and started 65% of the time, and that certainly has increased. I think that's a lot healthier for the both of them than the pitchers who get yo-yo'd, and never get to follow up on their failures by making adjustments and immediately seeing how they play out against similar competition.


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You could work Vientos into several spots, Canha Pham and Vogelbach will lose ab's for sure



Baty and Alvarez have worked themselves into the #1 option at their position most nights



Vientos "could" become a #1 option at say LF or DH



Canha Vogelbach and Pham may not be long as Mets in some form of this scenario



If you want to go all in of sorts there is also Mauricio to consider



I find it exciting that you could have four performing Rookies in the lineup together



I'm all in favor of young-ing up this team and establishing some building blocks going forward


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Here's what I would do. (In theory, anyway. If I really had decision-making powers I'd give this more thought than I'm actually doing.)



Let Mauricio play second base, moving McNeil to left field, replacing Canha.



Let Vientos be the right-handed DH. Whose roster spot would he take? Pham? Escobar? A pitcher? I don't know. But I'd like to see both Mauricio and Vientos join Baty and Alvarez on the team. It will either give the 2023 team a boost that might help them make the postseason, or if the Mets miss this year, it will give them the experience that will be useful for 2024's effort.


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I don't get the calls for Vogey to step aside. He's limited but he's not killing us, and he's a great Met already. Pham nobody will remember as a Met. Canha's having a bad year. Those are the guys who look most vulnerable to me.


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A five-run explosion in the eighth and Jaylin Dayvis homer in the ninth powered the Syracusers to a streak-breaking 8–7 win over the Buffles. Fourteen hits in total by the Mets included three more by Vientos and two by Mauricio. Gary Sanchez debuted with two hits and a walk of his own.



Southpaw Nathan Lavender got the save, coming on with the bases loaded and striking out the only batter he faced — star Buffalo firsbaseman Spencer Horwitz — on three pitches. Lavender has been coming on strong since starting the season in AA, and despite only 66 career minor league innings, he should totally get your attention as a potential 2023 contributor to a Mets pen that has been lefthander-poor.


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Nathan Lavender. Great name and they need all the help they can get



I have a feeling Nido is being stashed on the IL, possibly to Sanchez's benefit


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Nathan Lavender is a great name. I would hope that if he's ever on the Mets, they would have the name on his jersey spelled out in lavender letters instead of blue.



I realize they never did that for players named "White" or "Green" but I think you make an exception for someone named "Lavender".


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I'm sure there are more, but these are the Mets of color I could come up with:




[TABLE][TR][/TR][/TABLE]
[TD]
  • Vic Black

  • Henry Blanco

  • Andrew Brown

  • Emil Brown

  • Kevin Brown

  • Leon Brown

  • Lorn Brown

  • Tim Corcoran
[/TD]
[TD]
  • Steve Gelbs

  • Tom Gorman

  • Andy Green

  • Dallas Green

  • Pumpsie Green

  • Sean Green

  • Shawn Green

  • Charlie Greene
[/TD]
[TD]
  • Mel Rojas

  • Luis Rosado

  • Brian Rose

  • Don Rose

  • José Valverde

  • Justin Verlander

  • Rick White
[/TD]


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Joey Lucchesi threw six innings of four-hit shutout ball, walking none and fanning seven, as the Syracuse Mets https://www.milb.com/gameday/mets-vs-tides/2023/05/19/723157#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=723157eked out a 1–0 win over the first-place Norfolk Tides.



Ronny Mauricio garnered up three more hits, while Lorenzo Cedrola stole his 13th base, but also got caught for the first time. Mauricio also scored the games only run, driven in by one of two Jaylin Davis doubles.



Mauricio's .356 batting average is third in the International League, behind Simon Muziotti of Lehigh Valley (.362) and Chuckie Robinson of Louisville (.358).


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After two full weeks on the road, we're excited that the boys be back in town this upcoming week. I hope to go to their games both Tuesday and Thursday (we're on the road next weekend).


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Edgy MD wrote:

https://www.milb.com/gameday/mets-vs-tides/2023/05/21/723154#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=723154Eight shutout innings today from David Peterson. Two hits, three walks, and nine strikeouts on just 95 pitches.




Yeah, let him do that 3 or 4 more times. I don't trust him at the major-league level right now.


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Guillorme tearing it up to the tune of .320 / .469 / .440 // .909 in 32 plate appearances since his demotion.


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Mauricio didn't play last night.

Was there a announcement about why?

Is he inured?



What have you guys in Syracuse heard?.



Later


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Mauricio didn't play last night.

Was there a announcement about why?

Is he inured?



What have you guys in Syracuse heard?.



Later

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By the way, tonight Mark Vientos t shirt night in Syracuse... guess that is why Buck caved and gave Vientos a token start before he goes back to rotting on the bench for several days.


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Butto has a 7.30 ERA and from the box scores I've been following, he deserves every digit of it.

Later


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Well, it's hard for a starter to not deserve his ERA. It's designed as reflection of his overall effectiveness, and it's built from the same stats that are in the boxscores.


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