MFYankees Carnage 2023

[Benjamin Grimm]

I don't recall who you're talking about, but I'm going to guess it was either Gary Carter or John Franco.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't recall who you're talking about....

I can't believe you don't remember. This fiasco is permanently embedded in my brain. And it's not Franco, who, if I recall, wasn't a co-captain.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't recall who you're talking about.... I can't believe you don't remember. This fiasco is permanently embedded in my brain. And it's not Franco, who, if I recall, wasn't a co-captain.

Davey Johnson initially named Keith Hernandez as the sole Mets captain. Johnson was an intelligent baseball lifer who knew his team, knew the locker room, and even knew many of his Mets from their minor league days. Johnson read the room and correctly determined that Keith would make the best team captain, based on his playing skills, his leadership and the total respect Keith received from his teammates. This decision didn't sit well with Carter, who literally cried and whined and pleaded and begged and then cried some more, until he finally wore Johnson down into making Carter a co-captain. What a manipulative creep. And this right after publicly whining to the press all off-season long about how he was supposedly gypped out of the league MVP award -- the 4th or 5th best player on his own team.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't recall who you're talking about.... I can't believe you don't remember. This fiasco is permanently embedded in my brain. And it's not Franco, who, if I recall, wasn't a co-captain. Davey Johnson initially named Keith Hernandez as the sole Mets captain. Johnson was an intelligent baseball lifer who knew his team, knew the locker room, and even knew many of his Mets from their minor league days. Johnson read the room and correctly determined that Keith would make the best team captain, based on his playing skills, his leadership and the total respect Keith received from his teammates. This decision didn't sit well with Carter, who literally cried and whined and pleaded and begged and then cried some more, until he finally wore Johnson down into making Carter a co-captain. What a manipulative creep. And this right after publicly whining to the press all off-season long about how he was supposedly gypped out of the league MVP award -- the 4th or 5th best player on his own team.

[metirish]

Was Carter a good pilot at least ?

[MFS62]

=metirish post_id=126474 time=1684958075 user_id=72]
Was Carter a good pilot at least ?

[Edgy MD]

Is there an early source where we can read about the Carter whining campaign?

[Frayed Knot]

I don't remember it. What I recall in more or less chronological order:

- Keith's utter indifference to his new knighthood: 'Ummm, yeah, it's a great honor ... I guess'

- followed by the team realizing it had a pr issue on its hands with respect to their other everyday veteran

- so they 'solved' the problem by naming Carter a captain too which had the effect of not really having a captain

which, as far as I'm concerned, is fine since a baseball captain is essentially a meaningless title anyway.



Now, did Carter work behind the scenes after they named Keith? Quite possibly, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

But I don't recall anything ugly or public going on and I think it was mostly just assumed that Carter lobbied for

recognition.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I have no doubt that it happened, more or less, the way I said it did. Besides, otherwise, they would've been named co-captains simultaneously instead of a year apart. Now I have to look for this on the web, which I'm vomiting from already because all I'm pulling up is knucklehead pieces about how Carter deserves to have his number retired and how he was the last piece to the puzzle which made all the sense in the world when the Mets first got him but didn't play out that way. Gaaaaaaah!



Its probably in one of my Mets books. Either that, or I'll have to subscribe to the newspaper archives.



This isn't something I picked up after the fact from reading historical stuff. I became aware of this in real time from contemporaneous coverage, including TV interviews.

[dgwphotography]

"Gary Carter may come off like a cliché, to the point where a lot of other players mistrust him, but the genuine article comes along so rarely it can be hard to recognize when it looks you in the eye"

- Jerry Izenberg, in The Greatest Game Ever Played

[Edgy MD]

After being ejected for the fourth time this season, and second time in four days, Aaron Boone has been suspended by MLB ... for one game.

[G-Fafif]

All those of us who have cursed the MFYs to Hell have, at first glance, gotten our wish.

[MFS62]

I was going to ask i the smoke affected Suzyn Waldman's voice.

Then I realized we wouldn't be able to tell.



Later

[G-Fafif]

[ashie62]

=MFS62 post_id=127892 time=1686162110 user_id=60]
I was going to ask i the smoke affected Suzyn Waldman's voice.

Then I realized we wouldn't be able to tell.



Later

[metirish]

Gotta love John Sterling 😂

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Love Pa Pinstripe

[metirish]

Video of the foul ball , John was lucky

[Edgy MD]

Literal MFYankees carnage.

[MFS62]

Lewis Black on the MFYs.

Warning

DO NOT play this at work or near small children.

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Later

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I didn't think it would happen but the Yankees got a sponsor patch

[Edgy MD]

Whores.

[Fman99]

It sullies their traditions so it's great. It's like shitting on the mound.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I just wish they were sponsored by "Roach Motel" instead.

[MFS62]

Aaron Boone sounds like he's sniffing Helium.



Later

[metirish]

I'm happy this happened haha

[Frayed Knot]

The Yanx also fired their hitting coach prior to the ASB, notable only in that it's the first in-season axing of anyone significant during the Cashman years so maybe a hint of desperation is in the Bronx air.

They also shunned any in-house replacements as ex-Cincy star Sean 'The Mayor' Casey is their new man.

Don't know if he can teach but he sure can talk.

[nymr83]

=Fman99 post_id=131521 time=1689186165 user_id=86]
It sullies their traditions so it's great. It's like shitting on the mound.

[metirish]

Last place carnage

[G-Fafif]