Where Mets rank in 2023

[Benjamin Grimm]

Might as well get this one started.



I found categories where current Mets players rank in the Top Fifty. In offensive categories, it's a lot of Nimmo, Alonso, and McNeil, with the occasional Lindor. There's very little longevity among pitchers now that deGrom and Lugo have departed.



These are the guys who we hope to see moving up in the ranks this season:



BATTING



Games:

Brandon Nimmo 39th (608)

Pete Alonso 46th (530)

Jeff McNeil 47th (516)



At Bats:

Brandon Nimmo 37th (1,973)

Pete Alonso 38th (1,963)

Jeff McNeil 43rd (1,837)



Runs:

Brandon Nimmo 21st (335)

Pete Alonso 27th (310)

Jeff McNeil 40th (258)





Hits:

Jeff McNeil 31st (563)

Brandon Nimmo 34th (530)

Pete Alonso 39th (512)





Doubles:

Jeff McNeil 21st (121)

Brandon Nimmo 29th (tie, with C. Granderson, 106)

Pete Alonso 45th (tie, with B. Gilkey, 90)





Triples:

Brandon Nimmo 11th (tie, with A. Pagan, 23)

Jeff McNeil 49th (tie, with four other players, 9)



Home Runs:

Pete Alonso 7th (146)

Brandon Nimmo 33rd (tie, with J. Olerud, 63)

Jeff McNeil and Francisco Lindor 45th (tie, with three other players, 46)



Runs Batted In:

Pete Alonso 17th (380)

Jeff McNeil 45th (tie, with B. Huskey, 214)

Brandon Nimmo 47th (213)





Walks:

Brandon Nimmo 20th (tie, with J. Stearns, 323)

Pete Alonso 33rd (223)





Strikeouts:

Brandon Nimmo 17th (529)

Pete Alonso 20th (499)





Total Bases:

Pete Alonso 22nd (1,050)

Brandon Nimmo 35th (871)

Jeff McNeil 37th (840)





Extra-Base Hits:

Pete Alonso 17th (241)

Brandon Nimmo 29th (192)

Jeff McNeil 32nd (176)





Stolen Bases:

Francisco Lindor 43rd (tied with two other players, 26)

Brandon Nimmo 48th (tied with two other players, 23)





PITCHING



Games:

Edwin Diaz 25th (216)





Strikeouts:

Edwin Diaz 48th (356)





Saves:

Edwin Diaz 6th (96)

[duan]

even with 5 years to come Diaz would have to do very well to catch John Franco @ 276



Nimmo would seem to have a good chance at the walks if he stays the 8 years - and Pete the dingers with an extra 2/3 years.

[kcmets]

Jeff McNeil, Professional Met!

[batmagadanleadoff]

With deGrom having left for his comfort zone, the slavery belt, that list is now so uninteresting, other than Alonso's meteoric rise up the Mets all-time HR ranks. I'll check back in in a coupl'a years.

[metsmarathon]

lindor should be on most of those offensive lists by the end of the season.

[Edgy MD]

Here's the category where the contemporary class really shines.



Times Hit by Pitch



1) Brandon Nimmo: 57

2) Pete Alonso: 51

3) Jeff McNeil: 50 (tied with Michael Conforto)



14) Mark Canha: 28 (tied with Jeff Kent and John Olerud)



43) Francisco Lindor: 15 (tied with Tommie Agee, Benny Agbayani, Justin Turner, Wilmer Flores, and Yoenis Cespedes)



53) Starling Marte: 13 (tied with Frank Thomas, Lee Mazzilli, Howard Johnson, Carl Everett, Carlos Beltran, and Asdrubal Cabrera)

[Benjamin Grimm]

Pete Alonso currently projects to 90 home runs and 180 runs batted in.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Look who just tied Dave Kingman on the Mets' all-time home run list:



1. Darryl Strawberry 252

2. David Wright 242

3. Mike Piazza 220

4. Howard Johnson 192

5. Dave Kingman, Pete Alonso 154

7. Carlos Beltran 149

8. Michael Conforto 132

9. Lucas Duda 125

10. Todd Hundley 124



If the Mets extend him, he'll have a shot at setting a new record in 2025.

[Edgy MD]

Kingman is the only guy on that list besides Strawberry who is a former franchise leader.

[batmagadanleadoff]

The Mets all-time HR record is extremely underwhelming for a 60 year old franchise.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree. I hope Pete sticks around long enough to whelm it up a bit.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Edgy MD wrote: Kingman is the only guy on that list besides Strawberry who is a former franchise leader.

Yes. The list is pretty much Dave Kingman and eight guys who never caught up to Darryl Strawberry.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Kingman is the only guy on that list besides Strawberry who is a former franchise leader. Yes. The list is pretty much Dave Kingman and eight guys who never caught up to Darryl Strawberry.

That's real quirky. But not as quirky as no Met ever winning the league MVP award.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Look who just tied Dave Kingman on the Mets' all-time home run list: 1. Darryl Strawberry 252 2. David Wright 242 3. Mike Piazza 220 4. Howard Johnson 192 5. Dave Kingman, Pete Alonso 154 7. Carlos Beltran 149 8. Michael Conforto 132 9. Lucas Duda 125 10. Todd Hundley 124 If the Mets extend him, he'll have a shot at setting a new record in 2025.

Strawberry became the Mets all-time HR leader almost 35 years ago to the day, on April 20, 1988, when he hit his 155th Met HR off of the Phillies' Shane Rawley, passing then all-time HR leader, Dave Kingman.

[Edgy MD]

Few would have guessed that Kingman had another 100 homers left in his bat when the Mets released him, and probably at least a few more when MLB collusion ended his career for good.



If the Mets had a DH slot to use, Kingman might theoretically still be the leader.



(Or alternatively, if the Mets had a DH slot, Rusty Staub would have theoretically reached 3000 hits and 300 homers and theoretically been in the Hall of Fame.)

[G-Fafif]

No. 20 is now No. 5, directly behind No. 20 , 4-baggerwise.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

At this rate he'll capture Hojo this year

[G-Fafif]

This is the first day since September 3, 1976, that Dave Kingman doesn't have one of the top five home run totals in Mets history. Dave tied Ron Swoboda for fifth on 9/4 and passed him on 9/6.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Pete Alonso started the year with 380 runs batted in. So far, he's climbed past Dave Kingman, Michael Conforto, Todd Hundley, Rusty Staub, and Daniel Murphy and has moved from 17th place to 12th.



ALL-TIME METS LEADERS IN RUNS BATTED IN

1. David Wright 970

2. Darryl Strawberry 733

3. Mike Piazza 655

4. Howard Johnson 629

5. Ed Kranepool 614

6. Carlos Beltran 559

7. Edgardo Alfonzo 538

8. Cleon Jones 521

Jose Reyes 521

10. Keith Hernandez 468

11. Kevin McReynolds 456

12. Pete Alonso 426

13. Daniel Murphy 402

14. Rusty Staub 399

15. Todd Hundley 397

16. Michael Conforto 396

17. Dave Kingman 389

18. Lucas Duda 378

19. George Foster 361

20. Jerry Grote 357



Pete has 20 home runs to date this year, but only four doubles and one triple. His 25 extra-base hits have moved him from 17th place to 15th. He has passed Keith Hernandez and Todd Hundley.



EXTRA-BASE HITS

1. David Wright 658

2. Jose Reyes 493

3. Darryl Strawberry 469

4. Howard Johnson 424

5. Mike Piazza 415

6. Carlos Beltran 374

7. Ed Kranepool 368

8. Edgardo Alfonzo 346

9. Daniel Murphy 310

10. Cleon Jones 308

11. Mookie Wilson 292

12. Kevin McReynolds 289

13. Michael Conforto 277

14. Lucas Duda 274

15. Pete Alonso 266

16. Keith Hernandez 249

Todd Hundley 249

18. Lee Mazzilli 238

19. Dave Kingman 230

20. Curtis Granderson 213



His 115 total bases have allowed him to advance from 22nd place to 18th, passing Dave Kingman, Rusty Staub, Todd Hundley, and Lucas Duda.



TOTAL BASES

1. David Wright 2,945

2. Jose Reyes 2,356

3. Ed Kranepool 2,047

4. Darryl Strawberry 2,028

5. Mike Piazza 1,885

6. Howard Johnson 1,823

7. Edgardo Alfonzo 1,736

8. Cleon Jones 1,715

9. Mookie Wilson 1,586

10. Carlos Beltran 1,567

11. Daniel Murphy 1,421

12. Keith Hernandez 1,358

13. Kevin McReynolds 1,338

14. Jerry Grote 1,278

15. Bud Harrelson 1,260

16. Michael Conforto 1,195

17. Lee Mazzilli 1,192

18. Pete Alonso 1,165

19. Lucas Duda 1,141

20. Todd Hundley 1,116

21. Rusty Staub 1,078

22. Dave Kingman 1,053

[Edgy MD]

Homers in a Season by a Met



1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53

Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 48.48

T2) Todd Hundley (1996): 41

T2) Carlos Beltran (2006): 41

T2) Pete Alonso (2023): 41

T5) Mike Piazza (1999): 40

T5) Pete Alonso (2022): 40

T7) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 39

T7) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 39

T9) Howard Johnson (1991): 38

T9) Mike Piazza (2000): 38

T9) Carlos Delgado (2006): 38

T9) Carlos Delgado (2008): 38

[batmagadanleadoff]

I've got Alonso on pace for 49.01 HR's, because he missed nine games due to an injury. My calculation assumes he won't get injured anymore.



The formula is (41 x (162-9)) / (137-9).

[Frayed Knot]

So Alonso is now 62 HRs behind Straw's franchise record and still has 20+ games to go this year to chop that down a bit more.

That means that there's a possibility of equalizing or bettering the mark by the end of next season.





Assuming that ... y'know, he's still here come April.

[Edgy MD]

Homers in a Season by a Met



1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53

Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 49.85

2) Pete Alonso (2023): 44

T3) Todd Hundley (1996): 41

T3) Carlos Beltran (2006): 41

T5) Mike Piazza (1999): 40

T5) Pete Alonso (2022): 40

T7) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 39

T7) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 39

T9) Howard Johnson (1991): 38

T9) Mike Piazza (2000): 38

T9) Carlos Delgado (2006): 38

T9) Carlos Delgado (2008): 38

[Edgy MD]

Homers in a Season by a Mets Rookie



1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53

Francisco Alvarez Projected to End of Season: 27.22

2) Darryl Strawberry (1983): 26

3) Francisco Alvarez (2023): 22

T4) Ron Swoboda (1965): 19

T4) Ike Davis (2010): 19

T6) John Milner (1972): 17

T6) Jay Payton (2000): 17

8) Johnny Lewis (1965): 15

T9) Benny Agbayani (1999): 14

T9) David Wright (2004): 14

[Benjamin Grimm]

Jeff McNeil has moved into the Top Twenty all-time in base hits. He should pass Rusty Staub this year, and maybe Rey Ordonez.



Brandon Nimmo is in 22nd place, and Pete Alonso in 28th.



HITS

1. David Wright 1,777

2. Jose Reyes 1,534

3. Ed Kranepool 1,418

4. Cleon Jones 1,188

5. Edgardo Alfonzo 1,136

6. Mookie Wilson 1,112

7. Bud Harrelson 1,029

8. Mike Piazza 1,028

9. Darryl Strawberry 1,025

10. Howard Johnson 997

11. Jerry Grote 994

12. Daniel Murphy 967

13. Keith Hernandez 939

14. Carlos Beltran 878

15. Lee Mazzilli 796

16. Kevin McReynolds 791

17. Felix Millan 743

18. Rey Ordonez 720

19. Rusty Staub 709

20. Jeff McNeil 705

21. John Stearns 695

22. Brandon Nimmo 672

23. Wally Backman 670

24. Wayne Garrett 667

25. Michael Conforto 650

26. Hubie Brooks 640

27. Tommie Agee 632

28. Pete Alonso 623

29. Lucas Duda 614

30. Todd Hundley 612





DOUBLES



Nimmo and McNeil are both in the Top Twenty.



1. David Wright 390

2. Jose Reyes 272

3. Daniel Murphy 228

4. Ed Kranepool 225

5. Howard Johnson 214

6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212

7. Carlos Beltran 208

8. Mike Piazza 193

9. Darryl Strawberry 187

10. Cleon Jones 182

11. Mookie Wilson 170

12. Keith Hernandez 159

13. Kevin McReynolds 153

14. John Stearns 152

15. Lee Mazzilli 148

16. Lucas Duda 146

17. Jerry Grote 143

Jeff McNeil 143

19. Michael Conforto 141

20. Brandon Nimmo 131



RUNS

Nimmo and Alonso are in the Top Twenty, and McNeil is in 24th place.

1. David Wright 949

2. Jose Reyes 885

3. Darryl Strawberry 662

4. Howard Johnson 627

5. Edgardo Alfonzo 614

6. Mookie Wilson 592

7. Cleon Jones 563

8. Carlos Beltran 551

9. Ed Kranepool 536

10. Mike Piazza 532

11. Bud Harrelson 490

12. Keith Hernandez 455

13. Daniel Murphy 422

14. Brandon Nimmo 415

15. Kevin McReynolds 405

16. Lee Mazzilli 404

17. Michael Conforto 400

18. Pete Alonso 392

19. Wayne Garrett 389

20. Wally Backman 359

21. Tommie Agee 344

22. Todd Hundley 340

23. John Stearns 334

24. Jeff McNeil 326

25. Lucas Duda 325



RUNS BATTED IN

Pete Alonso has knocked Keith Hernandez out of the Top Ten.



1. David Wright 970

2. Darryl Strawberry 733

3. Mike Piazza 655

4. Howard Johnson 629

5. Ed Kranepool 614

6. Carlos Beltran 559

7. Edgardo Alfonzo 538

8. Cleon Jones 521

Jose Reyes 521

10. Pete Alonso 485

11. Keith Hernandez 468

12. Kevin McReynolds 456

13. Daniel Murphy 402

14. Rusty Staub 399

15. Todd Hundley 397

[Frayed Knot]

Be an interesting long term bet as to how those three ultimately place in all-time NYM records in some of those categories.

- McNeil is the hit guy but also the oldest and has a shorter contract than Nimmo

- Nimmo's walk totals draw away some hits but that's lessening somewhat just as his power inches up

- Pete is the youngest and obviously the most power, but has just one more year of team control so beyond that is speculative

[Edgy MD]

McNeil is not only the oldest and operating without a contract beyond 2026, he also doesn't really have a clear position going forward.

[Gwreck]

Edgy MD wrote: McNeil is not only the oldest and operating without a contract beyond 2026, he also doesn't really have a clear position going forward.

I doubt that's an issue. Take 2019 for an example: McNeil did not lead the team in innings at any of his defensive positions, but was still fourth on the team in plate appearances. And that was before the DH slot.

[Benjamin Grimm]

If McNeil plays regularly over the last three years of his contract, he can get into the top four or five in the Hits category.

[Edgy MD]

Edgy MD wrote: McNeil is not only the oldest and operating without a contract beyond 2026, he also doesn't really have a clear position going forward. I doubt that's an issue. Take 2019 for an example: McNeil did not lead the team in innings at any of his defensive positions, but was still fourth on the team in plate appearances. And that was before the DH slot.

That may be so. But the three young players entering the picture may have more staying power than a single Canó.



As noted elsewhere, I'm kind of rooting for him to take over at third, with Batientos starting 2024 primarily at DH, but we'll see.