Are you having fun?

[roger_that]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: These brief playoffs were nerve-wracking, ultimately disappointing, but absolutely fun. I would take these playoffs over no playoffs 100 times out of 100 because baseball is fucking FUN.

Nah, they weren't even good games. Well, Game 2 was a good game, NOT because the Mets won it but because it got nice and tense there in the 9th as the Padres loaded the bases down by four and with Diaz out of the game. THAT was good baseball and even though it was not a good spot for the Mets, I can see where you could describe it as fun.



They didn't JUST lose. They got lit up, humiliated, totally outhit, outpitched, outfielded by a team that is, frankly, mediocre itself and missing a major player in its lineup besides. The Mets clearly showed their bona fide credentials as just another so-so team that let its opponents walk all over them in their home stadium. If these had been exciting, interesting nuanced games to watch but they happened to come out on the wrong end, I'd grant you room to spout this silly stuff about "fun" baseball.

[whippoorwill]

I'm over it. I got to work outside today and enjoy the pretty day. That will heal a lot of bad feelings!

[batmagadanleadoff]

They didn't JUST lose. They got lit up, humiliated, totally outhit, outpitched, outfielded by a team that is, frankly, mediocre itself and missing a major player in its lineup besides. The Mets clearly showed their bona fide credentials as just another so-so team that let its opponents walk all over them in their home stadium. If these had been exciting, interesting nuanced games to watch but they happened to come out on the wrong end, I'd grant you room to spout this silly stuff about "fun" baseball.

So what? You've been watching baseball as long as you have and you can't comprehend that this happens all the time. Every single day. Because it's as normal as the sun rising. You really have a weak, almost child-like understanding of the game.



Yeah. The Mets "let" the Padres walk all over them. Because it all comes down to character and who supposedly wants it more. Tom Seaver had a crappy WS W-L record. Wanna know why? It's because he lacked character and didn't wanna win those games as much as his opponents did. /rolls eyes It couldn't possibly be luck or randomness or that three WS games carries less weight and meaning than 600+ regular season games.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=whippoorwill post_id=111030 time=1665423816 user_id=79]
I'm over it.

[Ceetar]

I need another day still. I was getting excited about at least a week or so of playoff energy, and all the wind came out of the sails over the last two week so fast that I'm still reeling a little.



As much as I'm glad they went to a three game series over a wild card game, the suddenly dire aspect of the series when you lose game 1 is intense. You dial it up from 0-100, especially given that most teams have clinched now well before the last day, and then suddenly you're back is against the wall and they're coming for you. jarring.

[Edgy MD]

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[kcmets]

We need an exploding BIGPURPLE button in 2023.

[MFS62]

I need another day still. I was getting excited about at least a week or so of playoff energy, and all the wind came out of the sails over the last two week so fast that I'm still reeling a little.

Me, too. I think it was Mike Tyson who said, "Plans are good - until you get punched".

And I think this gut punch knocked the air out of me.

Not fun.



Later

[A Boy Named Seo]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: These brief playoffs were nerve-wracking, ultimately disappointing, but absolutely fun. I would take these playoffs over no playoffs 100 times out of 100 because baseball is fucking FUN. Nah, they weren't even good games. Well, Game 2 was a good game, NOT because the Mets won it but because it got nice and tense there in the 9th as the Padres loaded the bases down by four and with Diaz out of the game. THAT was good baseball and even though it was not a good spot for the Mets, I can see where you could describe it as fun. They didn't JUST lose. They got lit up, humiliated, totally outhit, outpitched, outfielded by a team that is, frankly, mediocre itself and missing a major player in its lineup besides. The Mets clearly showed their bona fide credentials as just another so-so team that let its opponents walk all over them in their home stadium. If these had been exciting, interesting nuanced games to watch but they happened to come out on the wrong end, I'd grant you room to spout this silly stuff about "fun" baseball.

I had a GREAT time with my honey, dressing up in our jerseys to go to a party with friends and fam, but sneaking the game on our phone the whole time anyway because FUN. If you watch a drama play out live in front of you every single day, but you can only find joy if the outcome is a happy one, well that would be the silly thing, Rog.

[roger_that]

I've never in my life heard so many people expressing their pride in getting one-hit at home in a do-or-die playoff game that the Mets never once threatened to take a lead in before.



I can only imagine how proud and pleased you would be if the Mets had gotten no-hit and the Padres had set an all-time record for runs scored.

....................................R H E

SD. 12 3 3 5 2 1 0 3 6....35 31 0

NY .. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0......0 0 4





Hey, we really held them to a fun competitive game there in that classic 7th inning, didn't we? LGM!!!

[Edgy MD]

That's a lot of sarcastic misrepresentation and utter nonsense directed at your fellow posters.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: That's a lot of sarcastic misrepresentation and utter nonsense directed at your fellow posters.

I know. As if one can't be disappointed at the result and still have had fun throughout the experience, all at the same time. I dont mind him disagreeing. I dont even mind the name-calling anymore. But he makes stuff up every time from which to launch his points. Straw man stuff every single post.



I'll take this 101 win season and first round exit every day over signing Wacha and Porcello while letting Wheeler walk.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Edgy MD wrote: That's a lot of sarcastic misrepresentation and utter nonsense directed at your fellow posters.

Well said. It was a ridiculous statement.

[whippoorwill]

I'll still be having fun rooting for Cleveland!!

[Edgy MD]

And I, Seattle.

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: And I, Seattle.

They are a good story and usually I would, too.

But a fan of Seattle is one of the most virulent and vicious anti-Mets fans I've ever met. I wouldn't want to give that person a second reason to smile.



Later

[Edgy MD]

I understand. Of course, there is no shortage of vicious and virulent Met fans.

[roger_that]

Edgy MD wrote: That's a lot of sarcastic misrepresentation and utter nonsense directed at your fellow posters.

Deal.



Some losses are more acceptable than others. This was one of the more disgraceful. If you want to pretend that it wasn't, and all is good in your never-failing appreciation of the Mets' consistent excellence, then I'm probably going to hand you some shit from time to time. And you're probably going to call that shit "sarcastic misrepresentation and utter nonsense." Doesn't begin to make your characterization true, though you will get a lot of "That's telling him, Edgy! You go, girl!" on this site.

[roger_that]

I think I'm going to put myself on a posting moratorium for a few days, maybe a few weeks. I don't want to be repeating myself, or getting into arguments I can never make any progress on, until you folks learn how to process your grief, or even to acknowledge it, so I'll take my leave for a while now. Thanks for everything. You're a good bunch of guys and gals, with rare exceptions, and you don't seem to be getting much benefit from my unusual perspective.

[Edgy MD]

Edgy MD wrote: That's a lot of sarcastic misrepresentation and utter nonsense directed at your fellow posters. Deal.

I'm not sure what that refers to. Is there some sort of deal that has been proffered that you are agreeing to?

Some losses are more acceptable than others. This was one of the more disgraceful. If you want to pretend that it wasn't, and all is good in your never-failing appreciation of the Mets' consistent excellence, ...

This is a gross misrepresentation of your fellow posters. Please don't do that.

... then I'm probably going to hand you some shit from time to time.

That would be a terrible and malicious thing to do, and horrible misuse of whatever time you have remaining on Earth.

And you're probably going to call that shit "sarcastic misrepresentation and utter nonsense."

If it is, it is.



If it isn't, and I so describe it, please let me know.

Doesn't begin to make your characterization true, ...

The truth or falseness of what I've written can speak for itself. But if you want to demonstrate where I've written something untrue, please do. If you would like clarification or a demonstration from me in support of anything I've written, I'm happy to provide.

... though you will get a lot of "That's telling him, Edgy! You go, girl!" on this site.

I haven't offered you rancor, and I've done my best to discourage any rancor directed at you and/or other posters. That having been written, please know that if you intend to gender-shame me or anybody else on this site, we ask that you take that to the Red Light Forum. I'll be happy to meet you there and we can discuss in whatever terms or tone you see fit. Or you can write me. Or you can visit me. I'm not hard to find.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: That's a lot of sarcastic misrepresentation and utter nonsense directed at your fellow posters. Deal. I'm not sure what that refers to. Is there some sort of deal that has been proffered that you are agreeing to?

"Deal", as in "Deal with it". That was his initial post: just that one word - "Deal". Then, like 15 minutes later, he amended his one word "Deal" post to include all the rest of the insulting and self-aggrandizing garbage that he routinely posts. Ever heard of Brian Ostrosser? I'll tell you all about him (just as soon as I google Ostrosser, myself, to learn all about him).

Doesn't begin to make your characterization true though you will get a lot of "That's telling him, Edgy! You go, girl!" on this site.

Edgy MD wrote: I haven't offered you rancor, and I've done my best to discourage any rancor directed at you and/or other posters. That having been written, please know that if you intend to gender-shame me or anybody else on this site, we ask that you take that to the Red Light Forum. I'll be happy to meet you there and we can discuss in whatever terms or tone you see fit. Or you can write me. Or you can visit me. I'm not hard to find.

I never "offered him" any rancor either, but here we are now, me and him, in a feud that he totally started with numerous unhinged and foul posts directed at me before I finally responded. Funny, I don't remember you ever discouraging him from addressing me in the brutal way he now routinely does. And the nasty stuff he just wrote to you that inspired your criticisms just above is like a love poem compared to what he's written to me. What I do remember is you red-lighting one of my posts that had no business being red-lit -- some post where I didn't think his Doc Medich trade joke was as funny as he thought it was. Just a straight civil disagreement without any of the name-calling.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=roger_that post_id=111066 time=1665438184 user_id=128]
I think I'm going to put myself on a posting moratorium for a few days, maybe a few weeks. I don't want to be repeating myself, or getting into arguments I can never make any progress on, until you folks learn how to process your grief, or even to acknowledge it, so I'll take my leave for a while now. Thanks for everything. You're a good bunch of guys and gals, with rare exceptions, and you don't seem to be getting much benefit from my unusual perspective.

[TransMonk]

I don't understand why some humans find it so hard to hold two truths in their head at the same time. It is perfectly acceptable (I would argue logical) to be both proud and disappointed in the 2022 Mets.



At the end of any sports season, I take stock of performance vs. my expectations. Back in March, I was bearish on this team not knowing what to expect from the newcomers, McNeil coming off a pretty miserable 2021, deGrom not guaranteed to come back at all. I would have signed up for 100 wins in a heartbeat...still knowing that nothing is guaranteed in October.



I wish they would have looked better over the past ten days...most of all because their play over than span was not indicative of the six months of play that came before it. Yes, winning championships is the "goal", but this was the best Mets regular season in 25+ years. I'm glad I got to experience the summer team even if the fall ended early.

[batmagadanleadoff]

This all started over some jock (Pete Alonso) making some throwaway comment in passing about just being in the playoffs is fun enough. Which it should be. Especially for Alonso, who was making his playoff debut. And then this pushy blowhard ties himself into pretzel knots and suicidal despair over Alsonso's words --- dragging us into his over the top diva dramatics and once again insulting the entire forum over this, just like he did with his Ostrosser quiz and just like he did when he couldn't convince the forum that the infield fly rule should be ditched.



All because he didn't like what Alonso said. And the thing is, it was probably a throwaway comment that Alonso himself might not even remember any more. Alonso might've been thinking more about which restaurant he was gonna have dinner in after he left the stadium when he made his "fun" comment. And this jerk holds Alonso to this ridiculously absurd and unrealistic standard that you'd think Alonso should've spoken as if he was one of the framers and founders, debating about what to include in the Bill of Rights when he said he was having "fun".

[ashie62]

It was a throwaway remark from a ballplayer



How it took on a life of it's own I do not know

[ashie62]

Earlier poster said he started drinking again after 63 days in an IGT thread



Good luck with that roger

[batmagadanleadoff]

I think I'm going to put myself on a posting moratorium for a few days, maybe a few weeks. I don't want to be repeating myself, or getting into arguments I can never make any progress on, until you folks learn how to process your grief, or even to acknowledge it, so I'll take my leave for a while now. Thanks for everything. You're a good bunch of guys and gals, with rare exceptions, and you don't seem to be getting much benefit from my unusual perspective. Oh please don't go. If you go, how will we ever learn to process our grief properly? Please stay and teach us how to process our grief. Please benefit us. This is all our fault

I didn't catch this right away because I was too busy poking fun at it. But it finally sunk in. The audacity, the outrageous mindset and sense of superiority it takes for a person to tell another -- no, not tell -- insist -- on how they should "process their grief". Wow!

[batmagadanleadoff]

Jason Fry (Faith and Fear in Flushing) on that game:

I was there for that night, also known as Game 3 of the Wild Card Series.... Unlike Game 1, we had good neighbors — knowledgeable about the game, passionate about the Mets, and philosophical and mournful instead of vengeful and irrational once things spun out of control. [Emphasis added] [***] [T]he Mets lost one and then won one and then their opponents played better and so they lost a rubber game. There's nothing earth-shaking about that — I could have just described several chunks of any season, even a 101-win one. But because this particular rubber game came in October, people will try and tell you it means everything. They'll turn it into a referendum on the entire season, or say risible stuff about 26 guys wanting it more than 26 other guys, or opine about who was battle-tested or possessed the will to win. And it will all be nonsense. The Mets lost a rubber game in an exhibition series. It's disappointing and I'm sad about it, but fundamentally that's all that happened and all this other … stuff encrusting that fact is more than a little ridiculous. The postseason is a series of coin flips that we spin into Just So stories, and the more baseball I watch, the more resistant I am to the whole narrative industrial complex that surrounds the games. [***] [D]on't let losing an exhibition series sour you on a 101-win campaign that was marvelous fun for six months.

http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/



bml and Jason Fry similarity score --- off the charts!

[Fman99]

I am wallowing in stage 4, depression. I do expect to move on to stage 5 of the grieving process (acceptance) but it won't be this week. And you can bet your ass I'm not watching any more baseball this year. I hate all of the fans whose teams are still in contention.

[TransMonk]

I saw an analogy online that fits my current mood: the 2022 Mets' season was like the full series of Game of Thrones. Exciting and well executed right until the very end, which sucked and seemed unworthy of being attached to the rest of the whole.