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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:


No more seven-inning doubleheaders or runners on second to start extra innings.


Really?!?




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I still haven't seen anything about the post-season format. Did the "ghost win" survive? (I'm guessing not.) I like that the first round will (probably) be a best-of-three (instead of a best-of-one) but I won't like it if a division winner is vulnerable to getting eliminated by a wild-card team in a best-of-three. For that reason, I think I prefer the ghost-win concept for that particular series.



I guess we'll be seeing the details soon. But this is the part I'm most curious about right now about the new CBA.


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My line of thinking at the moment is that I'm one more cancelation away from me canceling the season on them.


And now I'll never know if I would have really followed through on this.


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Benjamin Grimm wrote:

I'm happier about the end of the extra-inning baserunner and the seven-inning games than I am upset about the DH. (And I really hate the DH.)


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I'm happier about the end of the extra-inning baserunner and the seven-inning games than I am upset about the DH. (And I really hate the DH.)


Ditto. I don't like the DH but I hate those two rules even more - ESPECIALLY the extra inning baserunner.
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One report said, in part, "The National League has adopted the use of the DH".

In my mind that should have said, "The DH was forced down the throat of the National League in order to get this done."



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So I'm assuming the schedule is not being altered in any way other than that first week of games being deleted. I guess there are some teams out there that are happy their games against some team like the Dodgers and the Rays are erased.


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So I'm assuming the schedule is not being altered in any way other than that first week of games being deleted. I guess there are some teams out there that are happy their games against some team like the Dodgers and the Rays are erased.


Gonna be 162, with full-length doubleheaders wedged in.


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Deets from Passan.


Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association reached a tentative agreement on a new collective bargaining agreement Thursday, ending the league's 99-day lockout of the players and salvaging a 162-game season, sources familiar with the situation told ESPN.



With the end of the second-longest work stoppage in the game's history, spring training camps will open Sunday, free-agent signings can begin Thursday night, and baseball will attempt to return to some semblance of normalcy after months of fraught negotiations.



The deal materialized after talks ratcheted up this week, when the league made a proposal that bridged the significant gap in the competitive-balance tax, a key issue in the end stages of talks. A dispute over an international draft threatened negotiations and caused the league to "remove from the schedule" another two series Wednesday, but those issues were resolved Thursday morning and the league delivered a full proposal to the union, which it voted to accept.



The final vote by the MLBPA's eight members of the executive subcommittee and 30 player reps was 26-12 in favor of the agreement, sources told ESPN.



The basic agreement governs almost all aspects of the game, but baseball's core economics were front and center in the labor talks. In addition to the new CBT, which increases from $230 million to $244 million over the five-year deal, the minimum salary governing players with less than three years of major league service will jump from $570,500 to $700,000, growing to $780,000, and a bonus pool worth $50 million will be distributed among those younger players who have yet to reach salary arbitration.



MLB had pushed for expanding the postseason to 12 teams -- a plan to which the MLBPA agreed. Additionally, player uniforms will feature advertising for the first time, with patches on jerseys and decals on batting helmets.



Other elements of the deal include:



• A 45-day window for MLB to implement rules changes -- among them a pitch clock, ban on shifts and larger bases in the 2023 season.



• The National League adopting the designated hitter.



• A draft lottery implemented with the intent of discouraging tanking.



• Draft-pick inducements to discourage service-time manipulation.



• Limiting the number of times a player can be optioned to the minor leagues in one season.




https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33470321/sources-mlb-union-reach-tentative-agreement-new-cba-salvage-162-game-seasonhttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33470321/sources-mlb-union-reach-tentative-agreement-new-cba-salvage-162-game-season


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Willets Point wrote:

So I'm assuming the schedule is not being altered in any way other than that first week of games being deleted. I guess there are some teams out there that are happy their games against some team like the Dodgers and the Rays are erased.


Gonna be 162, with full-length doubleheaders wedged in.


Teams that now have double headers against the Dodgers and the Rays saying "FUCK!"


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Deets from Passan.



• Limiting the number of times a player can be optioned to the minor leagues in one season.


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33470321/sources-mlb-union-reach-tentative-agreement-new-cba-salvage-162-game-seasonhttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33470321/sources-mlb-union-reach-tentative-agreement-new-cba-salvage-162-game-season


Edgy, this looks like it will make your roster updates a tad less frequent (how much less isn't clear). Players won't be bouncing back and forth between the majors and the minors as much as in recent years. How do you feel about that?



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I don't care about roster updates, but I've long argued that the attempt by teams to try to expand their roster size to 29 or 30 players, by regularly swapping out the back-end relievers, is competitively counter-productive. Is certainly not conducive to a player's career progress.


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Basically they are punting the international issue til July and if they don't come up with a format for a draft there will not be one.


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I guess they won't play 3 series against NL East teams, maybe 2, with the other games against AL teams. So instead of playing Atlanta, who they are battling for the division title, they will travel to Minnesota.



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https://twitter.com/jareddiamond/status/1502062106862137351


Wait, I kinda like this! As an out-of-market fan, I'll have more chances to see the Mets in person!


The downside is fewer games on East coast time and more late innings I will miss, fast asleep.


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I'd go for two games each against every team in the opposite league, one each at home and on the road.You'd get the plurality of contests played in-division, but just one shot every year to see your beloved Gatlinburg Gumboshoes come to town. It would be glorious. It would also add up to the same 30 games per year that you get by playing six against each of the division rivals.fi



.................. 18 games against each division rival = 72 games

... 6 games against each non-division league rival = 60 game

........ 2 games against each opposite league rival = 30 games

........................................................................ ------------

........................................................... Total = 162 games





Playing the Angels and Cubs the same number of times per year is just wrongy-wrong.


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I'll be interested to see how this impacts each team's annual travel mileage burden. West coast teams always spend far more time in the air compared to those east of the Mississippi.


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Edgy MD wrote:



Playing the Angels and Cubs the same number of times per year is just wrongy-wrong.

It's disgusting. Its almost as bad as having 14 playoff teams. Between playing every team and the universal DH, there's no longer a point to having divisions or even separate leagues. Oh, for the days when the Mets played the Pirates and Cubs 18 time a year and you really got to know your division rivals.



I guess if half the teams make the playoffs and pennant races are now watered down and dumbed down it wont matter much when the Mets inevitably play the fucking Texas Rangers in the last series of the regular season. I fully await all the drama of two 79 win teams battling it out for the last playoff spot in what's gonna pass for the new pennant races. Under this disgusting new format, the '86 Mets woulda clinched a playoff spot -- when? -- by Memorial Day?


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