MLB Draft, 2021

[nymr83]

So are they going to give him the RA Dickey treatment and reneg on the bonus they promised him?

[MFS62]

Very suspicious that they didn't (can't?) name the part of the body that has a medical problem.

If it is the arm, maybe that is why he "slipped" to # 10. Does this fall on the Medical staff?

I'm anticipating another LOL Mets moment.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

Maybe it's a body part that hasn't been named yet, because no other human has one.



That's MY guess, anyway.

[Edgy MD]

=MFS62 post_id=72585 time=1627312033 user_id=60]Very suspicious that they didn't (can't?) name the part of the body that has a medical problem.

[bmfc1]

Shouldn't they have known this? Did the teams that passed on Rocker know but not the Mets?

The whole draft was built around that pick as they knew that they had to go over the slot for him which meant drafting other players that could be paid below-slot.

[kcmets]

Yikes-a-roonies...



https://nypost.com/2021/07/27/mets-agreement-with-kumar-rocker-suddenly-in-jeopardy/https://nypost.com/2021/07/27/mets-agreement-with-kumar-rocker-suddenly-in-jeopardy/

[Benjamin Grimm]

Our billionaire owner should roll the dice and give him the $6 million and hope whatever is wrong with the elbow heals or is repaired some time over the next few years.

[Willets Point]

Could turn out like R.A. Dickey's missing UCL not being a problem.

[ashie62]

They drafted him so sign him.



It was a crap pick but they made it.

[bmfc1]

Today is the deadline to sign your draft picks and Jeff Passan says that as of now the Mets will NOT sign Rocker. I'll ass-ume that they checked his medicals so did they do a bad job? Did Boras try to hide something? The rest of the draft was based on picking Rocker with the knowledge that they had to pay above-slot for him which means that they drafted down elsewhere to get players below-slot. Theoretically, this means that they got worse players than they could have gotten because of the Rocker pick. If that's true, it hurts the farm system and we heard that the Mets had trouble making more trades this week because they didn't have enough second-level players to deal.

[Edgy MD]

Well, trades this week wouldn't have involved players just drafted. But yes, they saved elsewhere to pay the bonus on Rocker. They'll get a compensaiton pick in the same spot in 2022, but whether that money can be invested elsewise, I can only hope.

[bmfc1]

Listen to Jon:https://twitter.com/jonstewart/status/1421885599519322114

[batmagadanleadoff]

=bmfc1 post_id=73105 time=1627835728 user_id=73]
Today is the deadline to sign your draft picks and Jeff Passan says that as of now the Mets will .... If that's true, it hurts the farm system and we heard that the Mets had trouble making more trades this week because they didn't have enough second-level players to deal.

[bmfc1]

Maybe he'll turn out like Brady Aiken.

Maybe the extra pick they get next year (at 11) will turn into a star.

But for now, this is a disaster.



From Scott Boras:

[seawolf17]

The Mets effing up this pick is so very Mets.

[bmfc1]

I'd like to know if the Mets drastically lowered their offer based on his medicals or if they withdrew their offer and closed the door. If they offered him 50 cents on the dollar and Boras declined that's his decision as Rocker is out of baseball and any $ for a year. Rocker didn't submit an MRI before the draft so the Mets drafted him based on what they knew which was not everything. I hope that the Mets are wrong and that Rocker is healthy but before everyone gets all "LOL Mets" we should consider that there is a scenario (which the Mets might not be able to talk about) where they were shocked at what they saw.

Good information (at least to me) about the draft process here: https://www.mlb.com/mets/news/kumar-rocker-does-not-sign-with-metshttps://www.mlb.com/mets/news/kumar-rocker-does-not-sign-with-mets

Edited August 1, 2021 by Guest

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, that was fun while it lasted.



I guess.

[Frayed Knot]

"Baseball draft picks are worth up to 5x their slot value to clubs .I never shy away from investments that can make me that type of return."



Not sure the owners are going to be happy with Uncle Steve going public with that sort of information.

[bmfc1]

[bLOCKQUOTE]“The Mets made no offer, ever,” following the physical, a source said.

The reasons for that might be speculated on elsewhere. They won't be here. Suffice to say that what has been rumored is either incomplete or inaccurate.[/bLOCKQUOTE]

https://sny.tv/articles/sources-mets-kumar-rocker-deal-did-not-fall-apart-over-moneyhttps://sny.tv/articles/sources-mets-kumar-rocker-deal-did-not-fall-apart-over-money

[ashie62]

They get an extra pick in the 1st round next year.



I don't see this as a real problem for the now.



They can add that pick to the one they will get for Conforto.

[Ceetar]

well, they should extend Conforto.



There's no reason to think a pick a year from now is going to help the Mets MORE than having Rocker now. It makes no sense, it is dumb and yet another example of how confused this front office is.

[Frayed Knot]

=Ceetar post_id=73139 time=1627863214 user_id=102]
It makes no sense, it is dumb and yet another example of how confused this front office is.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: =Ceetar post_id=73139 time=1627863214 user_id=102] It makes no sense, it is dumb and yet another example of how confused this front office is.

It makes a whole lot of sense if they have reason to think he's damaged goods.

[batmagadanleadoff]

They get an extra pick in the 1st round next year. I don't see this as a real problem for the now.

Unless the Mets knowingly selected "lesser" players than what was available in subsequent rounds based on some budget that accounted for signing Rocker. They won't make that up and so it looks like they're now a year behind in prospect acquisition and development. Prospects are currency as much as currency is. Brett Baty is the only Mets #1 draft pick still in their minor league system - the Mets having traded 2018's Jared Kelenic and 2020's Pete Crow-Armstrong.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=Ceetar post_id=73142 time=1627864046 user_id=102]And where did they discover this information in a scant few weeks?

[Ceetar]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=73144 time=1627864255 user_id=68]
=Ceetar post_id=73142 time=1627864046 user_id=102]And where did they discover this information in a scant few weeks?

[batmagadanleadoff]

=Ceetar post_id=73145 time=1627864312 user_id=102]
=batmagadanleadoff post_id=73144 time=1627864255 user_id=68]
=Ceetar post_id=73142 time=1627864046 user_id=102]And where did they discover this information in a scant few weeks?

[bmfc1]

A player doesn't have to submit to a pre-draft medical exam unless he wants to and if he does and is drafted the team that picks him must offer at least 40% of the slot value (even if they don't want to). Rocker did not consent so the Mets did not have all of the information pre-draft that they did post-draft. I suspect that Steve Cohen will only want to "invest" in players that allow for a pre-draft exam.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=bmfc1 post_id=73147 time=1627864648 user_id=73]
A player doesn't have to submit to a pre-draft medical exam unless he wants to ....

[batmagadanleadoff]

I suspect that Steve Cohen will only want to "invest" in players that allow for a pre-draft exam.

And maybe some other owners too after this Rocker saga.