The Top Hitmakers, 1962-2020

[G-Fafif]

[Edgy MD]

I'm not sure which was more riveting: the Kranepool/Jones matchup or the Wright/Reyes showdown.



I know I'm going to kick myself, but it's after midnight, and my mind isn't working. Is there a meaning behind the different uses of orange bars and blue bars or did folks just enter the chart with alternate colors?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Oooooh!. Greg goes high-tech! Tremendous stuff! I like how the chart gets more stable as the Mets get older. I was also a little saddened to see Wayne Garrett drop out of the chart, even if that's progress and was inevitable. You have to slow it down during the very early years, almost watch the video frame by frame with all of the early volatility and jostling for unclaimed and wide-open territory to be had.



Does that chart reflect the day-by-day, game-by-game standings, or are the standings adjusted only to reflect end of season order?

Edited March 4, 2021 by Guest

[batmagadanleadoff]

Oh, I thought Greg made that chart.

[ashie62]

Striking how Ed stayed on top for so long as the chart kept moving.

[Edgy MD]

As Michael Conforto is something like two years from cracking the bottom of that chart, the most likely way we'll see movement this season will be if Dan'l Murphy changes his mind about retirement and re-joins the Mets, perhaps finding enough pinch-hitting opportunities and off-day starts to rope in his 1,000th Mets hit.

[Benjamin Grimm]

They should bring Howard Johnson and Jerry Grote out of retirement. Both came tantalizingly close to 1,000 hits as a Met.

[seawolf17]

It was fun to watch Fonzie come out of nowhere and start zooming up there. I'm still upset he didn't get on the Hall ballot.

[G-Fafif]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=57411 time=1614924408 user_id=68]Greg goes high-tech!

[Willets Point]

I thought it froze up for a moment there but it was just that dire period in the 90s before Edgardo Alfonzo appeared.

[Edgy MD]

Biggest Mets names to retire without ever seeing time on the list:

• Gary Carter


• Dave Kingman


• Dave Magadan


• Gregg Jefferies


• Cliff Floyd


• Curtis Granderson


• Umm ... Robin Ventura?


• Lenny Dykstra?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Biggest Mets names to retire without ever seeing time on the list: Gary Carter Dave Kingman Dave Magadan Gregg Jefferies Cliff Floyd Curtis Granderson Umm ... Robin Ventura? Lenny Dykstra?

John Olerud

[Benjamin Grimm]

Todd Hundley. Lucas Duda.

[seawolf17]

By 2000, you needed 700 hits - that's five good full-time seasons - so yeah, it makes sense that most recent guys wouldn't make the cut.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think Hundley and Duda are the two guys with the most hits who never appeared on that animation.

[Edgy MD]

Olerud was great, but brief. Some of these udder guys spent something like half their careers as Mets starters but never smelled the sweet air of All-Time Hits Leader Valhalla.

[batmagadanleadoff]

We should ask that Greg to make the same chart, but going in reverse order, as if the Mets last game was the first and the first game, last. Then, Duda and Hindley and Oledud and Conforto would've all made the list at some point. Alonso, too.

[G-Fafif]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=57453 time=1614979696 user_id=68]
We should ask that Greg to make the same chart, but going in reverse order, as if the Mets last game was the first and the first game, last. Then, Duda and Hundley and Oledud and Conforto would've all made the list at some point. Alonso, too.

[vtmet7]

that's pretty cool...but also pretty pitiful that Kranepool led the team in hits for that long....3 players that I'll never see what the team see/saw in them because to me they see pretty mediocre overall: Kranepool, Nimmo, and Ron Hodges

[Edgy MD]

Whoah. Two shits on Nimmo in a row.

[vtmet7]

is that allowed? I see a guy that is mediocre on defense, mediocre speed, mediocre power, and a mediocre hitter that can't hit LHP...other than taking a lot of pitches, I don't see a lot of natural talent...he's like the Doug Flynn of outfielders...a solid backup but a starting leadoff hitter is a stretch...yes, I know that his OBP/OPS is obviously going to be higher than what DF was, but DF was an infielder in the 70's and early 80's...but if you had Mookie Wilson, Lenny Dykstra, Darryl Strawberry and Brandon Nimmo, would he be your starting CFer or leadoff hitter, regardless of how many close pitches that he took for a called strike 3 or a walk?



I don't understand why they are thinking of batting him leadoff over Lindor, who possesses so much more talent and speed, and is a switch hitter...and he's not a good enough fielder or fast enough to be a center fielder, but doesn't hit enough to be a corner OFer on a playoff caliber team...Lindor has an .861 OPS with 277 runs scored, 57 steals, and 198 XBH's in 380 games as a leadoff hitter. Lindor also has an .851 OPS hitting vs LHP...

Edited March 6, 2021 by Guest

[Edgy MD]

=vtmet7 post_id=57505 time=1615091974 user_id=80]is that allowed?

[vtmet7]

Edgy MD wrote: =vtmet7 post_id=57505 time=1615091974 user_id=80]is that allowed?

Of course it's allowed.

[LWFS]

It's shitting on him with faint, shitty praise.



A guy who gets on-base 40 percent of the time is GREAT at getting on-base. (In a "meh" year for Nimmo and a good year for Lindor, Nimmo's getting on-base 40 more times over the course of a season... which is a significant difference in terms of run production, donchaknow.) A guy who does that and gives you okay-to-okay-plus everywhere else in his game is a significant net-positive... and a top-10 player at his position in the league. That's what we've got in your latter-day-Heep.



And I loved Mookie. But Nimmo's ABSOLUTELY starting over Mookie in left, in most cases.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Yeah I'd agree with LWFS here. Zimmo might even get better still is my thought

[batmagadanleadoff]

Anybody who gets on base 40% of the time can play on my team even if he shits his pants constantly and has to wear diapers. 40% OBP? That's the stuff of HOF'ers.



Doug FLynn? He was the worst hitter in Mets franchise history. Flynn made Rey Ordonez look like Rod Carew. And his fielding was way overrated. Fans talk about Flynn like he was some second-base version of Mark Belanger or Ozzie Smith.



Jeez, and all the Mets had to do to get Flynn was to trade Tom Seaver. Still-in-his-prime Tom Seaver.

[batmagadanleadoff]

And Ron Hodges was a base on balls machine. What do you want from a 1970s-early 1980s backup catcher?



I'd diss Alex Trevino and Junior Ortiz way before I ever got to Hodges.

[Edgy MD]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah I'd agree with LWFS here. Zimmo might even get better still is my thought

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