Wednesday in Non-Tender Spaghetti Day

[Frayed Knot]

So tomorrow is the deadline for teams to offer -- or not offer -- contracts to their pre-FA guys not already under contract for 2021



https://nypost.com/2020/11/30/mets-tendering-steve-matz-would-be-the-right-move/Ken Davidoff in the Post makes a case For keeping Matz

[whippoorwill]

Aaaaah now I need spaghetti!

[smg58]

I would argue that a 4.17 ERA over 128 IP isn't worth $5M in a normal market, much less this one. I wouldn't be surprised if some better players than Matz get non-tendered.

[Lefty Specialist]

Hey, it's Steve's money. I tend to think most of Matz's problems are between his ears.

[ashie62]

I would tender Matz and hope for the best. I have trouble knocking down players who sucked in 2020. The season was an unfair fight. And, I kinda like Matz anyway. Matz would get 5m and Stroman does get 18m. Seems like a disconnect.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Matz pisses me off. If he weren't an Omar-era draftee and native Long Islander he'd have been the one to go and not Wheeler. I'd have traded him five times already.



Destined I think to be a Brave and pitch really well against the Mets but also, lose plenty of 4-run leads against shit teams and sing country gospel

[Lefty Specialist]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Matz pisses me off. If he weren't an Omar-era draftee and native Long Islander he'd have been the one to go and not Wheeler. I'd have traded him five times already. Destined I think to be a Brave and pitch really well against the Mets but also, lose plenty of 4-run leads against shit teams and sing country gospel

This. I don't think he'll ever put it together as a Met, but once he leaves he'll kill them.

[whippoorwill]

Of course, they all do

[G-Fafif]

Matzie tendered. Gsellman will be, too. Shreve not so much.

[G-Fafif]

Guillermo Heredia sticking around as well.

[G-Fafif]

[G-Fafif]

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Paul Sewald Era is over. Damn.



I thought Shreeve was aight last year, at least what little of it I can remember

[Benjamin Grimm]

I thought so too. Shreve didn't seem to be part of the problem.

[Edgy MD]

Shreveport was also the only lefty in an eight-man pen. Of course, now Matz becomes that guy. But the off-season is young.



Tropeano sure came and went without leaving a mark. Probably failed an intelligence test, right, Wolfie?

[nymr83]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I thought so too. Shreve didn't seem to be part of the problem.

Shreve was out of options.



The Athletic's Tim Britton made a great point here as to why Robert Gsellman was retained and why it was a very good move -



https://theathletic.com/2235979/2020/12/02/what-we-learned-about-the-mets-offseason-plans-from-the-non-tender-deadline/https://theathletic.com/2235979/2020/12/02/what-we-learned-about-the-mets-offseason-plans-from-the-non-tender-deadline/

Unlike the non-tendered Chasen Shreve in the bullpen, Gsellman has options remaining and can move back and forth between the majors and minors. A guy with a league-average ERA doing a lot of set-up and closing work, as Gsellman did in 2018 and 2019, is not ideal. A guy with a league-average ERA being your shuttle reliever is more of a luxury than you realize. Check out the cumulative ERA of optionable relievers who spent time in both the majors and minors for the Mets in each of the last three seasons: Cumulative ERA of optionable relievers [i edited this as it was originally a chart that didn't copy well] 2018 - 5.72 2019 - 6.68 2020 - 8.41 Gsellman is better than that, and it doesn't cost the Mets a lot to keep him.

He also reported that Matz's and Heredia's one year deals aren't fully guaranteed until Opening Day.

[MFS62]

Trackie was surprised Shreve got cut, too.

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https://sports.yahoo.com/andy-martino-explains-why-mets-021510984.htmlhttps://sports.yahoo.com/andy-martino-explains-why-mets-021510984.html



Later

[seawolf17]

Well, good thing I didn't buy that Mets Tropeano jersey. (Although I'd bet they bring him back as an NRI.)