Blasts from the Past

[Benjamin Grimm]

That page also has a reference to Tom Koehler. I think the 3.70 under his name is his IQ.

[Benjamin Grimm]

BLASTS FROM THE PAST, METS HALL OF FAME EDITION





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Yesterday they talked about Darling's win in World Series Game Four, but my lasting memory of Ron Darling is that October game he pitched in St. Louis against John Tudor. I remember watching that at my grandmother's house because I had a power failure at home because of Hurricane Gloria. Glad it wasn't a SportsChannel game!



In the Matlack article from 1973, I like how they had to explain that "stats" means "statistics".

[batmagadanleadoff]

That's some collection of old newspapers you have.



Tell us all.about Harrelson's advice to the Reds (page 65) just before "Game Three " of that playoffs series.

[Benjamin Grimm]

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Apparently Rose and Harrelson had a war of words leading up to their legendary on-the-field dustup.



Meanwhile, that photo of Felix Millan and Johnny Bench really brings me back. Before the Internet, if we didn't watch the game we'd only be able to see one or perhaps a handful of grainy black-and-white shots of game action. That's the kind of photo I might have clipped from the newspaper and pasted in a scrapbook.

[Edgy MD]

That's a fantastic job collecting quotes by Joe Donnelly.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Wow, it's been a while since I've posted in this thread.



Here's Bill Gallo, from August 5, 1962. This may be before Basement Bertha burst upon the scene.



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[Edgy MD]

The gag is ... that the Mets were so bad that Frank "Kiss It Goodbye" Thomas was the only Met worth including in the team picture?

[Benjamin Grimm]

That's pretty much my interpretation too. It took me a while to notice that Phil Silvers was also in the "photo".

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

My initial thought was -- that the "team photo" thing was somehow done before the Mets had secured Thomas, who, though closely resembling the fella front left, wasn't in the original? Then again, I don;t even think a Thomas-less Met team would have possible as he was "day 1 get" I think, but could have been left off?



What I saw was that "retouched" the hat logos in the pic aren't "Mets" logos, only a guess that cartoonists before visual identity was known would make (why the Met logo had that off "NY" odd for decades) and one thing is the Thomas portrait has a correct Mets NY logo and the team pic doesn't (I get it, doing that in detail for 18 guys is a lot on deadline these guys had!)

[Benjamin Grimm]

Another Bill Gallo take on Frank Thomas, this time from May 2, 1962.



Interesting use of the word "nasally" in the adjoining article by Dick Young.



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[batmagadanleadoff]

My take on the first cartoon was not so much that the other Mets weren't worthy of inclusion, but that Gallo was wishing that all of the other Mets could be more like Thomas.

[Benjamin Grimm]

What was the "May 10 cutdown date"? Did seasons start with larger rosters back then?

[G-Fafif]

Seasons used to start with 28 on the roster.

[Benjamin Grimm]

You're saying that "nasally", aren't you?

[MFS62]

My take on the first cartoon was not so much that the other Mets weren't worthy of inclusion, but that Gallo was wishing that all of the other Mets could be more like Thomas.

Thomas nickname was "Donkey". He used to catch fastballs thrown at him barehanded.

I don't remember any of his Mets teammates being able to catch anything(with the exception of Richie Ashburn).

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

Blasts From the Past:

Special "Mettle" Edition!



The winner of the "Name the Mule" contest was to be awarded a week at spring training the following year. However, by spring of 1980 the deRoulet family was out of the picture and the club was owned by Nelson Doubleday and Fred Wilpon. I hope they honored the commitment made by the previous owners.





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[stevejrogers]

THE MASCOT WAS A JACKASS!!!



-Quip during a #LOL1970sCrappyMets rant from an ESPN NY Radio host telling listeners how long he'd been a long suffering Met fan.

[roger_that]

I'll never get over the irony of a column entitled "Young Ideas" being filled daily with some of the most objectionably reactionary ideas in the history of MLB.

[Edgy MD]

The funny thing is that Young had hit the scene twenty years earlier making his mark with exactly the reputation that the column's title suggested. A lot of things flip-flopped between the fifties and the eighties.



I like that Jesse Orosco made his debut as a LOOGy in the most literal sense, decades before he would pioneer the role that led to the coining of the term.

[seawolf17]

I hadn't realized that Orosco and Buckner were linked from day one. Neat.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I was a little weirded out by how frequently Joe McDonald referred to Orosco as "the boy".

[batmagadanleadoff]

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I hadn't realized that Orosco and Buckner were linked from day one. Neat.

[seawolf17]

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I hadn't realized that Orosco and Buckner were linked from day one. Neat.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I was a little weirded out by how frequently Joe McDonald referred to Orosco as "the boy".

Yeah, I just finished reading the Orosco piece and that's what struck me about the article more than anything else. I was still thinking about that even for a few seconds after I finished reading the article.

[batmagadanleadoff]

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I hadn't realized that Orosco and Buckner were linked from day one. Neat.

[Edgy MD]

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I hadn't realized that Orosco and Buckner were linked from day one. Neat.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Remember when Barry Larkin almost became a Met? This is from July 23, 2000.



Larkin's 2000 season would end on August 27. He came out of the game after dislocating a joint in his left middle finger while striking out against Atlana's Ryan Dempster. He was initially listed as day-to-day (happens a lot, huh?) but he actually was done for the season.



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[Benjamin Grimm]

Remembering the Bad Dude...



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[Benjamin Grimm]

I don't think we'll ever see a complete game like this one again. Juan Marichal went the distance even though he gave up five runs and sixteen hits.







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[Edgy MD]

I don't know. Trends change.