Wacha Wacha

[kcmets]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=28208 time=1576116797 user_id=68]What are you ... Jeff Wilpon's secret gay lover?

[Edgy MD]

There you go.



Now, I'm not saying I'm gay, but my favorite players to this day are Dick Pole and Johnny Dickshot, and I don't feel like I should have to apologize for that.

[Fman99]

I love all you fruity sumbitches.

[Gwreck]

Wacha is a player you take a flyer on when you want to have some extra depth as a long man and he's inexpensive if you have to cut him.



He's not a replacement for Zack Wheeler. Not even close. If the Mets are intending a 2020 starting rotation of DeGrom, Syndergaard, Matz, Stroman, and Wacha, then they are not serious about fielding a winning team.

[Edgy MD]

It think it's a pretty good rotation, and the beginning of the season is fifteen or sixteen weeks off. It's also not really locked in as such.

[LWFS]

The good news is, $3M guaranteed is pretty cheap.



The bad news is, it's appropriate. And that it has a significant nonzero chance of being the only non-minor-league-deal attempt to shore up our starting staff.



He's always been much more of a weak swings/contact inducer than a wipeout-K-guy; if he's getting hit, he's getting lit. And as a changeup guy with a recurrent shoulder issue and an increasingly-straight fastball...

[Gwreck]

Edgy MD wrote: It think it's a pretty good rotation, and the beginning of the season is fifteen or sixteen weeks off. It's also not really locked in as such.

The Mets were a “pretty good” team last year with a better rotation. We shouldn't settle for “pretty good.”



On your second point, that's exactly the point I was making: they're not good enough yet, but there is time to fix the problem. Yes, they missed out on signing Wheeler, Strasburg, and/or Cole. Those were missteps by Brodie and ownership. There are still opportunities to correct course.

[bmfc1]

Last season, the Mets had their starting 5 pitch in order from the first game of the spring without having anyone else "stretch out" or have a turn as a starter (with one or two exceptions at the end of the Spring). The Mets then had the good fortune not to be hit with major injuries to their starters. I suggest that they not do that again and have a few others (including Lockett and Oswalt) pitch for more than 2 innings, especially with Wacha injury history.

[Lefty Specialist]

I feel better with Wacha at $3 mil + incentives than I do with $9 mil. But he's still a dumpster dive.



This is a team that had no major injuries to their starting rotation, had the Cy Young award winner, the major league top home run hitter, and still only won 86 games. The odds that those three events all reoccur in 2020 is small. So getting worse when you swap out Wheeler for Wacha in a division that's been loading up is not exactly a recipe for success.



Steve Cohen can't get here fast enough.

[seawolf17]

Lefty Specialist wrote: I feel better with Wacha at $3 mil + incentives than I do with $9 mil. But he's still a dumpster dive. This is a team that had no major injuries to their starting rotation, had the Cy Young award winner, the major league top home run hitter, and still only won 86 games. The odds that those three events all reoccur in 2020 is small. So getting worse when you swap out Wheeler for Wacha in a division that's been loading up is not exactly a recipe for success. Steve Cohen can't get here fast enough.

Yup. But at least when we're fifteen games out in July we can trade him to a contender for an 18-year-old low-A middle infielder.

[MFS62]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: A Boy Named Seo wrote: We've got a winner if he can only reverse the career-low velocity and K/9, and the career-high ERA, FIP, xFIP and SIERA. On the bright side, he will make $9M. Wait, what did we do? Really. Wacha is dreck. Had potential once, but no more. Mike Pelfrey 2.0.

Actually, I thought Ed Lynch.

And when I looked them up, Ed's career WHIP was 1.360 and Wacha's is 1.325. Pelfrey's was 1.510.

Later

[Edgy MD]

Edgy MD wrote: It think it's a pretty good rotation, and the beginning of the season is fifteen or sixteen weeks off. It's also not really locked in as such. The Mets were a “pretty good” team last year with a better rotation. We shouldn't settle for “pretty good.”

Well, we're not discussing the team here, or the organization, but one unit at one point in time, in December.



I think there's a lot to be said for not locking in to one alignment certainly at this point.

[Gwreck]

I thought I was very clear, but in case I wasn't, the Mets shouldn't settle for a “pretty good” rotation.

[Edgy MD]

I'm certain that nothing I wrote suggested you were unclear. So why the problem?

[G-Fafif]

Mets make Wacha signing official, kick Chris Mazza off the roster to make room for Michael.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1205582569380536320https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1205582569380536320



Matz to the bullpen? Syndergaard in megatrade?

[Ceetar]

they're just humoring him. ;-) Earn it and start though, go ahead.

[Edgy MD]

it's not every day I get to imagine a guy named "Anthony Di Como" using the word "y'all."

[kcmets]

Youse'all can add it up when they trade Noah for some player who was some-

what good 2014-16 before they got injured or banned for PED's.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Wacha posts a Topps-style faked look in his new uni. Doesn't include a number as Ces has 52. Paddy Power is taking action on what uni he turns up in:



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