Replacing Mickey: The Quest for a New Mets Manager

[Frayed Knot]

Well, according to someone I read yesterday (I forget who as they all start to blend together after a while) the decision is now in Fred-land.

The first two rounds were headed by BVW (along with various lieutenants) plus Jeff. Now whatever third round survivors remain need to get the Fred stamp of approval.

What's unknown, even now that he is supposedly a bit more removed from day-to-day operations, is how much his vote counts. I mean ultimately it counts for everything

but will he go totally against the recommendation(s) if one guy, maybe not one favored from the prior rounds, "lights up the room" for him? Or, for that matter, we don't know

how the power sharing worked up until now; how much of a gap in opinion will it take for Jeff to override BVW and the braintrust?

[kcmets]

FK's post just puts me in sad Fred/Jeff land...



SELL THE TEAM YOU CHEAP-ASS CROOKS NOW!!!

[Edgy MD]

Frayed Knot wrote: Well, according to someone I read yesterday (I forget who as they all start to blend together after a while) the decision is now in Fred-land.

Fred-Land! Nobody's favorite amusement park! Exit 11 off the Taconic.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Some Guy with 58 followers on Twitter says Eduardo Perez just landed at LaGuardia

[Vic Sage]

If its taking 3 rounds, then nobody has gotten them excited. Meanwhile, Girardi is now coaching for a team in our division. And we're leaving the final decision to Koufax's synaptically-challenged golfing buddy?



God grant me the serenity...

[Guest 41Forever]

Vic Sage wrote: If its taking 3 rounds, then nobody has gotten them excited. Meanwhile, Girardi is now coaching for a team in our division. And we're leaving the final decision to Koufax's synaptically-challenged golfing buddy? God grant me the serenity...

Third interview -- or announcement of hiring? Once the game is over tonight, teams are free to make news again.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: What's unknown, even now that [Fred W] is supposedly a bit more removed from day-to-day operations, is how much his vote counts. I mean ultimately it counts for everything but will he go totally against the recommendation(s) if one guy, maybe not one favored from the prior rounds, "lights up the room" for him? Or, for that matter, we don't know how the power sharing worked up until now; how much of a gap in opinion will it take for Jeff to override BVW and the braintrust?

Sometimes I think that the way the Mets operate is that all of this preliminary stuff is mostly a dog and pony show that means shit and the decision is totally the Wilpons. This preliminary stuff is just to trick the GM into thinking that he's calling most of the shots.

[Centerfield]

Frayed Knot wrote: What's unknown, even now that [Fred W] is supposedly a bit more removed from day-to-day operations, is how much his vote counts. I mean ultimately it counts for everything but will he go totally against the recommendation(s) if one guy, maybe not one favored from the prior rounds, "lights up the room" for him? Or, for that matter, we don't know how the power sharing worked up until now; how much of a gap in opinion will it take for Jeff to override BVW and the braintrust? Sometimes I think that the way the Mets operate is that all of this preliminary stuff is mostly a dog and pony show that means shit and the decision is totally the Wilpons. This preliminary stuff is just to trick the GM into thinking that he's calling most of the shots.

I don't think the GM thinks for a second that he has any real power. I think he took the job knowing he was signing on to be the spokesman for the Wilpons.



The only dog and pony show was interviewing Girardi and Chaim Bloom before him. Like they'd ever consider handing over the reins.

[Frayed Knot]

Tim Bogar -- currently still working w/the Nats -- remains the lone candidate not to have his 3rd round/Fred round interview.

Beltran, Perez, and Shelton have had the 3rd go-round. It's unclear whether Luis Rojas & Pat Murphy have. [sherman]



So we're probably looking at the end of the week at the earliest.

[G-Fafif]

Sherman reports Bogar is out.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Meaning that he's openly gay?

[Edgy MD]

I'm kind of adapting to the Eduardo Peréz thing. Good pinch-hitter. Son of a Hall of Famer. Baseball-lifer even though he didn't have to be. Second-generation manager. Almost single-handedly saved professional baseball in Puerto Rico.



Seems ... proactive?

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

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Sherman reports Bogar is out.

[HahnSolo]

It's weird, I kind of felt the momentum for Bogar was growing. Sorry, Bucket.

[seawolf17]

It's hard to get too worked up one way or another about any candidate being "in" or "out," because we honestly have no idea and all the reporters are just filling space. YA GOTTA BELIEVE, LUNCH.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Murphy is out.

[G-Fafif]

Mark Feinsand of mlb.com says it's down to Pérez and Beltran.

[Benjamin Grimm]

They can avoid having to decide between the two by hiring this guy:



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[batmagadanleadoff]

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[Edgy MD]

The Dominoes patch.

[Centerfield]

Edgy, do you remember writing a post about Mike Cubbage's name? I forget what player you used as an example, but you used it to describe ex-Cubs.



"I'm coming around on Shawon Dunston, but at times it's hard to root for him given how much Cubbage he retains."



I stiill think about that every time I see that name.

[Edgy MD]

If I invoked Shawon Dunston, that was a long time ago, but yeah, I pretty much have understood the name "Cubbage" that way since, like, 1978.

[G-Fafif]

The murmurs are coalescing around Beltran as manager, Collins as bench coach. No shouts yet.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

The murmurs are coalescing around Beltran as manager, Collins as bench coach. No shouts yet.

I predicted that!



Stupid Fred

Johnny Lunchbucket in one of the 50 other manager threads wrote: I think Terry could come back as Beltran's bench coach, were they to go in that direction. Not that I'd recommend they do

[G-Fafif]

DiComo is now reporting Beltran is the choice.

[G-Fafif]

Rosenthal on it, too. Looks real.



Carlos Beltran, manager, New York Mets.

[kcmets]

Just got a BR alert so you know it's true!!

[seawolf17]

I'm all in, baby! I love the Beltran/Collins pairing.

[Edgy MD]

Wow, who'd've thunk it?



All respect to Gabe Kapler and Frank Robinson, but I tend to think that former outfielders get even fewer managerial jobs than former pitchers. Beltran would be the first former outfielder to manage the Mets since ... Casey Stengel!! (Interim 1983 manager Frank Howard was also primarily an outfielder.)

[HahnSolo]

I could do without Terry's return, tbh.