Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 "Oh Michael, you can never lose your family" -- Mama Corleone (Part II)Pending a physical (yadda, yadda) Jeurys Familia and the Mets reached a three year agreement for the reliever to return to the team that dealt him away last August,presumably to serve in a set-up role to newly-acquired Edwin Diaz.And we don't have to give back Will Toffey or Bobby Wahl or the $1 million in int'l bonus pool money.
Mex17 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Unexpected. The only drawback is that he is not lefthanded. Do you think that they could still be in on Miller?
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 3 years, $30 million. Money that could have been better spent elsewhere. I've never been a Familia fan.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 I love it. Arguably the best relief pitcher we have ever had. Home grown kid. Only 29 years old. Compared to the deal the older Kimbrel is supposedly looking for this is a good bargain. Like any relief pitcher, it comes with risks, but I think this is a solid bet. Love that he is ok with being a setup man and that the addition of Diaz didn’t deter him. We still need a lefty or two but this is shaping into a potentially great pen. Inevitably some reporter will get this wrong. He doesn’t have a domestic violence taint. He was arrested on suspicion of domestic violence and then a court affirmatively ruled that none had occurred.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Now that the Mets have two 50-save guys in their bullpen, they're guaranteed to win 100 games this year. Right?
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Now that the Mets have two 50-save guys in their bullpen, they're guaranteed to win 100 games this year. Right?That adds up for me, too.And don't forget the 20 complete game victories when they won't need a closer.Later
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 I think I'm on record somewhere saying that if the Mets were going to be dumb and throw money at a relief pitchers it may as well be Familia.I like it enough.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 I very much approve. Good move.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 This deal is a bargain in that for the cost of one reliever, they receive multiple pronunciations.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 I've always liked Familia. He was betrayed by his defense more than his fair share, but he remained solid for us. I do agree with Mex that an established lefty would be nice, though.
Guest 41Forever Guests Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Kind of like Jay Bruce last season -- returning after a rental!
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 #metstwitter loves to complain, wow the amount of bile about this is something else , I like it
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 He and Bruce create a new category: Ricochet Mets.How many guys besides those two were resigned immediately after being dealt in their walk year? Can't be too many, although honorary status has to to go to Greg McMichael.
RealityChuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 I asked this when Bruce was re-signed and someone mentioned Aroldis Chapman.This is a great signing. Familia and Diaz will lock down the 8th and 9th. They can now just stockpile relievers to fill out the bullpen. which will address one of the team's biggest problems.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 G-Fafif wrote:This deal is a bargain in that for the cost of one reliever, they receive multiple pronunciations.We now have three more years to figure this out!
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 I like it well enough, provided the infield defense is much better over the next 3 years.I think I'd rather have Miller at this price, or two years of Happ (a la the guys across town).
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Rather than assign one guy the eighth and one the ninth, I prefer a team that looks to just one of those guys as needed for both the eighth and the ninth, with the other guy backing him up for an emergency, and if they're in another situation that needs a lockdown the next night, the other guy gets the call.It wouldn't work out this way, of course, but I'd prefer each guy get 40 appearances of two innings each, rather than 80 appearances of one inning each. It's probably less taxing and leaves the manager with an ace up his sleeve.
Guest Mets Willets Point Guests Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Edgy MD wrote:Rather than assign one guy the eighth and one the ninth, I prefer a team that looks to just one of those guys as needed for both the eighth and the ninth, with the other guy backing him up for an emergency, and if they're in another situation that needs a lockdown the next night, the other guy gets the call.It wouldn't work out this way, of course, but I'd prefer each guy get 40 appearances of two innings each, rather than 80 appearances of one inning each. It's probably less taxing and leaves the manager with an ace up his sleeve.Edgy for manager.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 I like that idea too, but it seems to be too outside-the-box for today's managers.I think Familia will get more than a few save opportunities. There will be days when Diaz has been used two or three days in a row and then, if he's fresh, Jay-or-reese will be the designated closer for that day.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Joe Kelly just went to LA for 3/25. Would you guys have rather had a less-proven-but-apparently-on-the-rise guy (and one a little less defense-dependent) for that price?
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:Joe Kelly just went to LA for 3/25. Would you guys have rather had a less-proven-but-apparently-on-the-rise guy (and one a little less defense-dependent) for that price?Kelly is actually almost two years older than Familia, and not as good. No.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Edgy MD wrote:He and Bruce create a new category: Ricochet Mets.How many guys besides those two were resigned immediately after being dealt in their walk year? Can't be too many, although honorary status has to to go to Greg McMichael.Frank Lary was traded to Milwaukee in 1964 and then purchased back from them in 1965.Is that a sub-category?Later
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 It feels so weird to be happy about a Mets transaction. I can't remember the last time I felt that way.Other than re-signing Cespedes a bunch of times, I can't remember being happy about a trade or signing. I didn't like any of the Bruce/Vargas crap from last year. Maybe trading to get Addison Reed? I must be forgetting someone right?On Edit: The Niese for Walker trade. I liked that one.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 MFS62 wrote:He and Bruce create a new category: Ricochet Mets.How many guys besides those two were resigned immediately after being dealt in their walk year? Can't be too many, although honorary status has to to go to Greg McMichael.Frank Lary was traded to Milwaukee in 1964 and then purchased back from them in 1965.Is that a sub-category?LaterAnd, of course, the patron saint of all ricochet Mets is Harry Chiti.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Edgy MD wrote:Edgy MD wrote:He and Bruce create a new category: Ricochet Mets.How many guys besides those two were resigned immediately after being dealt in their walk year? Can't be too many, although honorary status has to to go to Greg McMichael.Frank Lary was traded to Milwaukee in 1964 and then purchased back from them in 1965.Is that a sub-category?LaterAnd, of course, the patron saint of all ricochet Mets is Harry Chiti.He ricocheted away in the other direction. Another category? Later
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Didn't Mike Bordick resign with the Orioles after he left the Mets?
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Bordick indeed got the flock back to the Orioles ASAP.Assuming Familia is used early in the 2019 season, his absence should measure sixth-shortest among Recidivist Mets. The Mets have played 69 games since his last pre-departure appearance with them. Shorter absences between terms:Greg McMichael (32 games)Kirk Nieuwenhuis (45 games)Jay Bruce (52 games)Kelly Johnson (60 games/222 days)Frank Lary (60 games/255 days)Unless somebody else is brought back from our distant past, Familia looms as the 48th Recidivist Met.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Of course, Pedro Feliciano had a couple of zero-game absences.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Edgy MD wrote:Of course, Pedro Feliciano had a couple of zero-game absences.Sui generis.
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