The No Title Thread

[batmagadanleadoff]

What do these 12 Mets, and only these 12 Mets, have in common:

Kevin Plawecki
Travis d'arnaud
Michael Conforto
Wilmer Flores
Juan Lagares
Yoenis Cespedes
Jacob deGrom
Noah Syndergaard
Matt Harvey
Steven Matz
Jeurys Familia
Jerry Blevins

[stevejrogers]

Players left from the 2015 postseason to play a game for the Mets this season?

[batmagadanleadoff]

SteveJRogers wrote: Players left from the 2015 postseason to play a game for the Mets this season?

The early bird catches the worm, right? You win. These are the only 2018 Mets that played for the pennant winning Mets of three years ago. Blevins wasn't on the post season roster as he sustained a season ending injury in April of 2015. But close enough.

The point I wanted to make is that deGrom is the only Met on that list who is better this year than three years ago. I didnt consider Blevins for the reason stated above, and Lagares and d'Arnaud, who will miss the rest of this season.

[MFS62]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: The early bird catches the worm, right? You win.

No.
You win.
You got us to click on the thread.
Later

[smg58]

I'm curious to know the percentage of players from 2015 who are still on the same team. I'd wager it's consistent with what we see here. I'm also curious to know the percentage of players from 2015 who, between then and now, have spent time on the DL. I bet it's less than the 100% in the above sample.

[Guest d'Kong76]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: The point I wanted to make is that deGrom is the only Met on that list who is better this year than three years ago.

Well that's just depressing when you put it that way.
Mets put a lot of eggs in baskets expecting more out of d'arnot, Conforto,
Flores and Lagares didn't they?

[seawolf17]

d'Kong76 wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: The point I wanted to make is that deGrom is the only Met on that list who is better this year than three years ago. Well that's just depressing when you put it that way. Mets put a lot of eggs in baskets expecting more out of d'arnot, Conforto, Flores and Lagares didn't they?

d'Arnaud and Lagares, yes, I think we expected more. Conforto has been aces, honestly. Sure, he's had his moments, but he's still only like fourteen years old. I don't think they've ever expected Flores to do more than he has; he's never truly been given a starting role.

[seawolf17]

smg58 wrote: I'm also curious to know the percentage of players from 2015 who, between then and now, have spent time on the DL. I bet it's less than the 100% in the above sample.

Wow, I hadn't even noticed that. Yes, they're still here, but every one of those guys has missed time.

[Guest d'Kong76]

seawolf17 wrote: d'Arnaud and Lagares, yes, I think we expected more. Conforto has been aces, honestly. Sure, he's had his moments, but he's still only like fourteen years old. I don't think they've ever expected Flores to do more than he has; he's never truly been given a starting role.

I guess on Michael, feels like an old fourteen sometimes. I expected more
from Wilmer, but my magic spreadsheets have failed me once again.

[seawolf17]

I think *I* expected more from Wilmer, but he only got 300 ABs each of the past two seasons. I know he's not exactly a sabermetric darling, but he's above league-average, which is more than you can say for some guys.

[Edgy MD]

seawolf17 wrote: I don't think they've ever expected Flores to do more than he has; he's never truly been given a starting role.

He was the starting shortstop for 2/3 of 2015 and 1/3 of 2014, given every chance to hang on to it.

When Wright got hurt that season, Terry Collins for a while had Flores at short, Tejada at third, and Murphy at second, which seemed wrong all around, but he was loathe to move people from their earlier assigned positions. When he finally did, ultimately Wright came back, and Flores had no place in the lineup, and became a utility guy until Tejada got assassinated in the playoffs.

[G-Fafif]

Plawecki was indeed on the 2015 Mets' postseason roster from beginning to end but his only on-field action of note was catching the ceremonial first pitch from Mike Piazza prior to Game Three of the World Series.

[Centerfield]

What this illustrates is how little the Mets have added to this core over three years.

Asdrubal has been a nice addition. As has Lugo and Gsellman. Nimmo this year is off to a good start.

Everyone else is pretty crappy.

[Ceetar]

What this illustrates is roughly nothing.

If they'd kept more guys they'd be criticized for not making enough moves to keep competitive over a changing landscape, and if they'd kept less they'd be too cheap to retain assets.

It's just an interesting factoid.