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="Triple Dee":16wgdhxn]Unhealthy BJs could be bad news for the Mets. If they rapidly fall out of contention, Halliday may be put on the trading bloc(k). There's no way he'll be traded to the Red Sox or Yanquis, which is likely to make the Phils the number one suitors.[/quote:16wgdhxn] Well, I'm certain Fman would agree with me when I say that unhealthy BJs are just bad news all-around, but even if the Phils are the most likely suitor that doesn't necessarily mean Halliday is theirs for the taking. If I'm the BJs I'm looking for a lot for Roy. Do the Phillies have what it would take? I would think it would take young, proven ML talent at least. Benjamin Grimm May 28 2009 06:52 AM And remember, it was the White Sox who almost closed a deal for Peavy. They seem to be big players in the starting pitcher market. If I'm shopping a starting pitcher, they'd be among the first teams I'd call. Fman99 May 28 2009 06:56 AM ="Triple Dee"]="Edgy DC"] ...., and the Blue Jays are playing like chumps and better stop. Unhealthy BJs could be bad news for the Mets. Too much teeth? Triple Dee May 28 2009 08:39 AM (My apologies for hijacking the Standings thread, maybe these posts should be moved to another thread.) ="soupcan":24grmrc0] but even if the Phils are the most likely suitor that doesn't necessarily mean Halliday is theirs for the taking. If I'm the BJs I'm looking for a lot for Roy. Do the Phillies have what it would take? I would think it would take young, proven ML talent at least. [/quote:24grmrc0] You're right, presently they probably don't have enough for Halliday. Their top pitching prospect, Carlos Carrasco is having a pretty bad time in AAA. They have Kyle Drabek (presumably Doug's son?) who is highly regarded but he's playing A ball . Other than they have some decent OF which the BJs don't need. ="BG":24grmrc0] And remember, it was the White Sox who almost closed a deal for Peavy. They seem to be big players in the starting pitcher market. [/quote:24grmrc0] The ChiSox probably need starting pitching help now. I suspect by the time the BJ's would want to deal Halliday, they'll be as far out as they are. ="Fman99":24grmrc0] Too much teeth? [/quote:24grmrc0] Gutter. smg58 May 28 2009 01:35 PM ="Triple Dee":20e91cie]Unhealthy BJs could be bad news for the Phils. If they rapidly fall out of contention, Halliday may be put on the trading bloc(k). There's no way he'll be traded to the Red Sox or Yanquis, which is likely to make the Mets the number one suitors.[/quote:20e91cie] There, that's better. In all seriousness, if Halladay and/or Cliff Lee go on the block we can't cry poverty. Edgy DC Jun 02 2009 02:13 PM NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #Philadelphia2920.592---------New York2822.5601.51.5112Atlanta2525.5004.57.5109Florida2428.4626.513.5106Washington1336.2651651.598 Benjamin Grimm Jun 08 2009 04:49 AM I know we all pretend to be disinterested in the Wild Card (until, of course, it's the last weekend of the season and the division has been clinched and we desperately want the Wild Card) but the Mets are currently in a virtual tie for the WC lead with St. Louis. (They're actually .001 ahead.) Just thought I'd mention it. Frayed Knot Jun 08 2009 07:43 AM It helps that whilst Met fans wuz crying over the sweep in Pittsburgh and deeming barely acceptable their 2 of 3 over the Nats (and ranting about how good teams "don't let that happen", etc) the Cards were getting swept by the Rockies. Frayed Knot Jun 08 2009 03:00 PM BTW, that Cards-Rox series which I assumed was a 3-game sweep, wasn't. It was actually a 4-game series with the getaway game today ... and now it's a 4-game sweep by the Rockies. And in StL too. Edgy DC Jun 08 2009 07:32 PM NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #Philadelphia3322.600---------New York3025.5453.03.0105Atlanta2728.4916.09.0102Florida2731.4667.513.599Washington1540.27318.055.590NL WildcardTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #New York3025.545---------St. Louis3127.5340.50.5105San Francisco2926.5271.01.5106Chicago2826.5191.53.0106Cincinnati2927.5181.53.0105Atlanta2728.4913.010.5104Florida2731.4664.519.0101Pttsburgh2630.4644.519.0102San Diego2630.4644.519.0102Houston2530.4555.024.0102Arizona2532.4396.034.0101Colorado2532.4396.034.0101Washington1540.27315.0142.092 Edgy DC Jun 15 2009 08:38 PM Florida is making another small move in the east, while the Mets have relinquished the wild card for now. Colrado has absolutely exploded, knocking a ton of net games back off as they move from next to last to the middle of the pack. NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #Philadelphia3625.590---------New York3229.5254.04.098Florida3233.4926.08.094Atlanta3032.4826.59.595Washington1645.26220.063.582NL WildcardTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #San Francisco3428.548---------St. Louis3430.5311.01.099New York3229.5251.52.0100Cincinnati3131.5003.06.598Chicago3030.5003.06.599Florida3233.4923.59.096Colorado3132.4923.59.0101Atlanta3032.4824.011.597Pttsburgh3033.4764.516.596Houston2932.4754.516.597San Diego2834.4526.031.595Arizona2737.4228.053.592Washington1645.26217.5167.584 Willets Point Jun 15 2009 10:02 PM All thing considered, 4 GB in mid-June ain't too shabby. Gwreck Jun 15 2009 11:01 PM The Phillies aren't as good as they were last year (particularly Lidge and Rollins). I can certainly see the Mets passing them, maybe with a Philly injury and the Mets getting some players back. Edgy DC Jun 16 2009 05:30 AM The Mets have turn it on, though. One way, and not a crazy one, of looking at "The Phillies aren't as good as they were last year (particularly Lidge and Rollins)," is to realize the Phils sure have the potential to get better. Benjamin Grimm Jun 16 2009 12:36 PM ="metirish (in another thread)":20pgmzma]With 101 games to go what would the Mets need to do realistically the rest of the way? After they fired Willie they went 55-38 in the remaining 93 games . Need to win 60 games?[/quote:20pgmzma] I haven't done this yet this year, but here's what Baseball Prospectus is currently saying: Average wins by position in NL East: 92.7 86.4 80.7 74.6 61.7 92.8 NL East W L Pct3 Avg W Avg L Champions Wild Card Playoffs 1D Change 7D Change Phillies 36 25 .514 88.8 73.2 46.66633 14.85141 61.51774 .04575 -1.48791 Mets 32 29 .544 87.7 74.3 41.41762 13.35543 54.77305 .17262 -0.79291 Marlins 32 33 .485 79.3 82.7 6.56945 4.60971 11.17916 .04267 6.61307 Braves 30 32 .485 78.1 83.9 5.33545 3.61399 8.94944 .10715 -7.83416 Nationals 16 45 .456 62.1 99.9 .01115 .00837 .01952 -0.00110 -0.04799 The Dodgers are at 97.4% for the playoffs, 94.3 for the division. The most likely wild card team is Colorado, currently in 3rd place, with 17.4%. (Phillies are the second most likely wild card, followed by the Mets and the Giants.) In the American League, the Red Sox score highest, at 77.8% for the playoffs. Yankees are at 47.0%. They both are about equal for the wild card (at 26 to 27 per cent), but the Red Sox are way ahead for the division, leading 50.4% to 20.6%. I can see why that Orioles fan is boasting, by the way. His team's chances: .05655 division .22353 wild card .28008 overall. HahnSolo Jun 16 2009 12:45 PM Oh, god no, not the BP projections! I vowed not to read these after absorbing them for 2 straight Septembers. have mercy on me, Grimm. Benjamin Grimm Jun 16 2009 12:53 PM Don't worry, I have no plans to make this a daily feature... yet. I have my doubts right now that the Mets will be involved in a gripping September pennant race anyway. Ashie62 Jun 17 2009 04:52 AM BP Over 50/50 shot...Was kinda hoping for 80 percent wire to wire..Probably asking to much on my end John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2009 05:36 AM Picked up a game on the whole division last nite. Centerfield Jun 17 2009 07:17 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":wvotfwll]Don't worry, I have no plans to make this a daily feature... yet. I have my doubts right now that the Mets will be involved in a gripping September pennant race anyway.[/quote:wvotfwll] You think they're gonna run away with the division? Wow, that's some confidence. Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 01:56 PM One game out of first place. If Tampa Bay does us a favor tonight, it'll be only a half. Perhaps the Mets will leave Philadelphia in first place next week. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 25 2009 01:58 PM We got a cupcake at home coming up, I don't see how we could get out of this weekend not in first. Edgy DC Jun 25 2009 10:51 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2009 07:51 AM The whole field has truncated since the last update, with expansion brethren Colorado and Florida heating up the most. Even Washington has gained some ground. NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #Philadelphia3733.529---------New York3734.5210.50.592Florida3836.5141.01.590Atlanta3438.4724.010.588Washington2149.30016.058.577 NL WildcardTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #San Francisco3932.549---------Milwaukee3834.5281.51.499New York3734.5212.02.590Colorado3735.5142.54.089Florida3836.5142.54.088Cincinnati3536.4934.011.588Chicago3435.4934.011.589Atlanta3438.4725.522.086Houston3337.4715.522.087Pttsburgh3339.4586.531.085San Diego3140.4378.050.584Arizona3042.4179.562.582Washington2149.30017.5158.575 Willets Point Jun 25 2009 11:11 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":3i3p78g1]Perhaps the Mets will leave Philadelphia in first place next week.[/quote:3i3p78g1] That can be interpreted in two different ways: 1. The Mets will depart the city of Philadelphia having gained first place for themselves. 2. The Mets will lose and thus the team from Philadelphia will remain in sole possession of first place. Gwreck Jun 25 2009 11:31 PM Which do you think it is? Benjamin Grimm Jun 26 2009 05:45 AM Let me rephrase then... Perhaps the Mets, upon their departure from Philadelphia next week, will find themselves with the best record in the National League East. Edgy DC Jun 26 2009 08:45 PM Hey, we're in first place. Edgy DC Jul 07 2009 06:11 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 07 2009 07:18 AM Wow, I haven't posted since the Mets were in first. The good news is that, in the day and a half since the Mets last played (and lost), they have passed two teams (one intradivision) in the standings. The bad news is that the sterategy of moving ahead by not playing isn't very sustainable. NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsPhiladelphia4337.538---------48.17926Florida4341.5122.02.07918.79686New York3942.4814.57.07821.36100Atlanta3943.4765.08.57711.65843Washington2455.30419.064.5640.00446 NL Wildcard TeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsSan Francisco4537.549---------24.55501Colorado4339.5242.02.07936.45378Milwaukee4339.5242.02.0795.20361Florida4139.5133.05.0792.99581Chicago4341.5123.05.0773.12304Cincinnati4041.4944.512.5771.71817Houston4041.4944.512.5771.13201New York3942.4815.519.5763.12304Atlanta3943.4766.023.5752.08225Pttsburgh3746.4468.546.0720.56024San Diego3547.42710.061.0710.14075Arizona3449.41011.577.5690.26129Washington2456.30020.0179.5620.00053 Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2009 06:51 AM Yikes... eighth place in the Wild Card race? Just a few weeks ago they were in first or second. Things look pretty grim, but not so bad that a sustained hot streak wouldn't cure. But is this team capable of a sustained hot streak? Sure doesn't look like it. Edgy DC Jul 07 2009 07:22 AM The overlooked here continues to be the turnabout Colorado had had over the last few weeks. I ain't telling you what to believe, but if you want to still root, take it one team at a time. Root for the Mets, and root like heck against Houston. Once they pass Houston, the Astros become the Mets allies in helping them pick off the teams ahead. I'm not going to tell you it's not a slog ahead. TransMonk Jul 08 2009 08:07 AM 39-43. This is the first time the Mets have been 4 games under .500 since 9/17/05. metirish Jul 08 2009 08:09 AM The Mets are losers of nine of their last eleven games. I expect to be in fourth place in the next few days. Edgy DC Jul 13 2009 08:23 AM The pattern of fortune's vunlerability to change dramatically each day in the NL East lends an air of bigitude to the Mets upcoming series with the Braves. Is anybody in the press noticing the extended surge of the Rockies? Look how dramatically they lead without leading in the wildcard race. NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsPhiladelphia4838.558---------60.36533Florida4644.5114.04.07115.70618Atlanta4345.4896.08.07012.38783New York4245.4836.59.57011.54009Washington2661.29922.573.5540.00058 NL Wildcard TeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsSan Francisco4939.557---------27.11857Colorado4741.5342.02.07345.51423Milwaukee4543.5114.06.0712.96857Florida4644.5114.06.0403.00459Chicago4343.5005.010.0713.18395Houston4444.5005.010.0700.71723Atlanta4345.4896.016.0691.13201Cincinnati4245.4836.519.5690.68224New York4245.4836.519.5692.23495Pttsburgh3850.43211.060.0640.12630Arizona3851.42711.565.0620.19441San Diego3652.40913.081.5620.01837Washington2661.29922.5195.5530.00010 Nymr83 Jul 13 2009 08:50 AM ]Washington 26 61 .299 22.5 73.5 54 0.00058 so they'll win the division 6 times out of 1,000,000? that takes into account the chances that they trade for Albert Pujols, Tim Lincecum, Hanley Ramirez, Manny Ramirez, Dustin Pedroia, Evan Longoria, and Zack Greinke all before the end of the day, right? Edgy DC Jul 13 2009 08:56 AM Plague years, I believe. Nymr83 Jul 13 2009 08:59 AM I also did not take into account the chances that the Mets, Braves, Marlins, and Phillies would all get paid off to lose the rest of their games. Edgy DC Jul 27 2009 02:02 PM Chicago --- recently compared to the Mets as far as being disappointing --- has re-asserted themselves and edged ahead of the Cards, thought St. Louis still is shown as more likely to win the division according to Baseball Prospectus. The Mets series win helped put a brake on a long streaking period by Houston climbing the standings, and it also allowed them to pass Cincinnati. So the Reds are now one of the teams you are allowed to root for. Milwaukee is sliding and their the next team we are looking for the Mets to pick off. Washington is eliminated from both races to the fifth decimal place of a percentage point. NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsPhiladelphia5640.583---------71.92603Atlanta5148.5156.56.55918.94809Florida5148.5156.56.5596.65038New York4651.47410.518.5562.47551Washington3068.30627.084.5390.00000 NL WildcardTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsColorado5444.551---------58.03895San Francisco5246.5312.02.0639.07787St. Louis5348.5252.53.0613.54684Atlanta5148.5153.56.0618.31609Florida5148.5153.56.0613.47697Houston5048.5104.08.5610.87862Milwaukee4949.5005.014.5600.89282New York4651.4747.532.0580.37380Cincinnati4453.4549.548.0560.07017Pttsburgh4355.43911.061.5540.02579Arizona4356.43411.566.5530.09422San Diego3861.38416.5121.5480.00010Washington3068.30624.0211.5410.00000 Edgy DC Jul 31 2009 07:45 AM Not a lot of movement during the series, except, you know, the Mets knocked Colorado off the top perch in the Wild Card race. No matter, says Baseball Prospectus, who is still doubling down on the Rockies. The Mets are only a game closer to the top, but cut their net gap from 32 to 26, so that's good. Similarly, they pulled three games closer in the Net column in the division race, such as it is. In other words, this run has been nice, but it has to be sustained to be meaningful. Catching Milwaukee and/or Houston over the next few days would be very meaningful. NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsPhiladelphia5842.580---------73.50793Florida5349.5206.06.0568.16545Atlanta5250.5107.08.05515.18698New York4952.4859.515.5533.13963Washington3270.31427.085.5350.00000 NL WildcardTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsSan Francisco5646.549---------18.97177Colorado5547.5391.01.06045.52084St. Louis5649.5331.52.0586.05652Florida5349.5203.06.5584.07728Atlanta5250.5104.010.5576.77887Houston5151.5005.015.5560.65272Milwaukee5151.5005.015.5560.78867New York4952.4856.526.0550.62566Cincinnati4556.44610.558.0510.01369Arizona4458.43112.071.5490.04786Pttsburgh4358.42612.576.5490.00565San Diego4162.39815.5109.5450.00005Washington3270.31424.0211.5370.00000 Edgy DC Aug 04 2009 12:41 PM NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsPhiladelphia5640.583---------74.89575Atlanta5148.5156.56.55913.43997Florida5148.5156.56.55910.06658New York4651.47410.518.5561.59770Washington3068.30627.084.5390.00000 NL WildcardTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsColorado5444.551---------58.95294San Francisco5246.5312.02.06316.21132St. Louis5348.5252.53.0613.44353Atlanta5148.5153.56.0612.64151Florida5148.5153.56.0613.85554Houston5048.5104.08.5610.39682Milwaukee4949.5005.014.5600.44886New York4651.4747.532.0580.12738Cincinnati4453.4549.548.0560.00121Pttsburgh4355.43911.061.5540.00172Arizona4356.43411.566.5530.06649San Diego3861.38416.5121.5480.00031Washington3068.30624.0211.5410.00000 Net Met Post-Season Likelihood: 1.47032% Ashie62 Aug 04 2009 12:50 PM ="metirish":37imwhfz]The Mets are losers of nine of their last eleven games. I expect to be in fourth place in the next few days.[/quote:37imwhfz] We have a winner! Give the man a set of steaknives TransMonk Aug 04 2009 12:51 PM ="Edgy DC":1wacunne] Net Met Post-Season Likelihood: 1.47032%[/quote:1wacunne] Met Post-Season Likelihood on Sept 12, 2007: 99.80% Stranger things have happened. Stranger and far more depressing. Ashie62 Aug 04 2009 01:00 PM ="TransMonk":1oi9gbzs]="Edgy DC":1oi9gbzs] Net Met Post-Season Likelihood: 1.47032%[/quote:1oi9gbzs] Met Post-Season Likelihood on Sept 12, 2007: 99.80% Stranger things have happened. Stranger and far more depressing.[/quote:1oi9gbzs] Wow** Strangely that just made my day. After all they are the Amazin Mets Edgy DC Aug 06 2009 08:06 AM Well, that lousy loss the night before last burns the Mets badly as their net post-season odds dip toward the 1% mark. Milwaukee moves up a bit, so the Mets have to eye Houston first, but you know, the Fish are slipping also. San Fran re-takes the top wildcard slot, but Baseball Prospectus still is totally not impressed. They love the Rocks. San Diego joins the Nats among teams not shouldered with the burden of a visible post-season possiblity. NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsPhiladelphia6045.571---------75.75257Florida5552.5146.06.0519.14475Atlanta5553.5096.57.05014.03328New York5156.47710.017.5471.06940Washington3672.33325.579.5310.00000 NL WildcardTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsSan Francisco6048.556---------22.82055Colorado5948.5510.50.55554.46296St. Louis5951.5362.03.5542.71764Florida5552.5144.511.0522.38452Atlanta5553.5095.013.0513.43947Milwaukee5454.5006.018.0500.41470Houston5355.4917.024.0480.11615New York5156.4778.534.5470.27858Arizona4959.45411.054.5440.11468Cincinnati4661.43013.577.0420.00048Pttsburgh4562.42114.587.0410.00063San Diego4465.40416.5109.0380.00000Washington3672.33324.0199.0310.00000 Edgy DC Aug 10 2009 07:57 PM The Mets are Santa Claus right now, giving hope to all the poor children, first Arizona, then San Diego, who actually has come back from having no chance of winning within five decimal places of a percentage point. Mercy. Not so resuscitated is Washington, who despite winning a fuky eight straight, still aren't showing any numbers but goose eggs, but they've closed their wild card gap from 199 net games to 173. Another seven months at this pace and who knows? Normally I'd cheer the Nats onward, reasoning that any success by a team behind the Mets in the standings helps the Mets pick off opponents, but this week stank so solidly that I view Washington's success as a threat by them to somehow catch the Mets in the standings. Show me something, SHaMs. NL EastTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsPhiladelphia6148.560---------58.10719Florida5853.5234.04.04915.91526Atlanta5854.5184.55.04825.56209New York5259.46810.021.5430.41546Washington4072.35722.571.5300.00000 NL WildcardTeamWL%GBNet GBElim. #BP % ChampsColorado6150.550---------51.36310San Francisco6150.550---------18.00222Chicago5851.5322.04.0514.56220Florida5853.5233.07.0493.87031Atlanta5854.5183.59.0484.75462Houston5556.4956.021.5460.16014Milwaukee5556.4956.021.5460.41311New York5259.4689.042.5430.08468Arizona5062.44611.562.5400.03717Cincinnati4862.43612.571.5400.00078San Diego4766.41615.096.5360.00003Pttsburgh4566.40516.0107.5360.00000Washington4072.35721.5173.5300.00000 Elster88 Aug 10 2009 08:55 PM ]I view Washington's success as a threat by them to somehow catch the Mets in the standings. That just depressed the hell out of me. duan Aug 11 2009 05:34 AM i don't know every time they look like they *just might* put something together that'd mean they'd claw their way TOWARDS being at least able to duke it out in September they lose two straight and fall back off. I'm still cool with saying if they go 13-6 or something in the remaining August games they'll be well in it, but there's only so many times they can fail to actually have one of those runs and still be able to put enough of them together. We've really missed a healthy John Maine. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 12:06 PM Re: i don't know ="duan":exl5k9ys]We've really missed a healthy John Maine.[/quote:exl5k9ys] Since mid-2007. Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 12:53 PM We've missed three batsmen a bunch more though. duan Aug 11 2009 05:08 PM ="Edgy DC":20movskg]We've missed three batsmen a bunch more though.[/quote:20movskg] totally, it's just that Pelfrey & Hernandez seem to alternate good & bad outings and whoever's in the 4th & 5th slots is usually pretty junky so on the days where we don't score 7 runs we lose more then half the time. I sorta feel if we just had one more stable starter we'd be close to .500 now and if the batters came back could make a go of it.

'Fuck tubs'. Love it. Had no idea there was an actual term for those...

Ah. I thought you and Edgy were somehow running with the whole homoerotic stretching thing.

I'm lost.

Remember that my kids get their hair cut by this chick who was doing/dating one of the Mets trainers? I forget his name but she eventually married the guy. Anyhoo, his contract was not renewed this year and she told my wife last week that that's the reason for the rash of injuries. She said that her hubby totally focused on stretching and strengthening the lower bodies. I mean its a bit of a stretch to say that this guy's absence is the direct cause but.... Reyes - legs, Church - legs, Beltran - legs, Perez - legs...

That seems like an odd location but whatever. Don't look now but New Ebbets Field is getting Metsmerized!

="G-Fafif":282jerju]I had tendinitis in one of my two typing hands when I was in my late twenties. I was day-to-day, but pecked through the pain. It took time and treatment. Same thing about a dozen years later.[/quote:282jerju] That's called 'heart'. G-Fafif May 21 2009 02:18 PM That's called not having a guaranteed contract. Or a deep bench. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 21 2009 02:54 PM ="G-Fafif":8ksamv8g]I had tendinitis in one of my two typing hands when I was in my late twenties. I was day-to-day, but pecked through the pain. It took time and treatment. Same thing about a dozen years later.[/quote:8ksamv8g] Yes, but do you write with the same initial 'burst' you once had? And I don't wanna return to my home-- I've already whipped up my makeshift torch and Mark DeRosa wig for the rioting. G-Fafif May 21 2009 03:07 PM Sometimes I'm a little slow to the space bar. TheOldMole May 21 2009 03:49 PM Is that the one that Whoopi Goldberg/Guinan operated? G-Fafif May 21 2009 03:50 PM I couldn't get past the fuzzy rope. Edgy DC May 21 2009 05:22 PM ="TheOldMole"]] Maybe a signee can be the parkee. I believe I have never seen that sentence before. I'm trying to get quoted in The Writing Careers Examiner.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2bjm181f]tendonitis sucks. Only cure is rest![/quote:2bjm181f] I was thinking the same thing. Maybe a professional athlete in his 20s has a different experience in terms of tolerance and recovery but... TheOldMole May 21 2009 01:26 PM I had a torn miniscus and couldn't walk, but guys play NFL football with it. G-Fafif May 21 2009 01:29 PM I had tendinitis in one of my two typing hands when I was in my late twenties. I was day-to-day, but pecked through the pain. It took time and treatment. Same thing about a dozen years later. soupcan May 21 2009 02:02 PM ="G-Fafif":282jerju]I had tendinitis in one of my two typing hands when I was in my late twenties. I was day-to-day, but pecked through the pain. It took time and treatment. Same thing about a dozen years later.[/quote:282jerju] That's called 'heart'. G-Fafif May 21 2009 02:18 PM That's called not having a guaranteed contract. Or a deep bench. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 21 2009 02:54 PM ="G-Fafif":8ksamv8g]I had tendinitis in one of my two typing hands when I was in my late twenties. I was day-to-day, but pecked through the pain. It took time and treatment. Same thing about a dozen years later.[/quote:8ksamv8g] Yes, but do you write with the same initial 'burst' you once had? And I don't wanna return to my home-- I've already whipped up my makeshift torch and Mark DeRosa wig for the rioting. G-Fafif May 21 2009 03:07 PM Sometimes I'm a little slow to the space bar. TheOldMole May 21 2009 03:49 PM Is that the one that Whoopi Goldberg/Guinan operated? G-Fafif May 21 2009 03:50 PM I couldn't get past the fuzzy rope. Edgy DC May 21 2009 05:22 PM ="TheOldMole"]] Maybe a signee can be the parkee. I believe I have never seen that sentence before. I'm trying to get quoted in The Writing Careers Examiner.

My 12 year-old is already a die-hard Mets fan. Watches games, knows the players, etc. My 8-year old daughter is in training but has potential. She's a Dabidrye fan. My 10-year old son couldn't give a rats ass about them. But I'm...not... sad, 'cause 2 outta 3 ain't bad.

="Swan Swan H":12s6uo2s]NP: I Got Rhythm.[/quote:12s6uo2s] I got surgery. Benjamin Grimm May 21 2009 07:39 AM I'm pleased that both of my kids are Mets fans. Not fervent enough to actually sit and watch on television, or even to follow on a day-to-day basis, but they proudly wear their Mets gear and get excited about attending the games. My daughter, about to turn 8, seems to have more fan potential than my 12-year-old son. I'm just glad they're not Phillies fans, which could very well have been the case, since we're in the heart of enemy territory. MFS62 May 21 2009 07:54 AM ="soupcan":2umqpzze]="Swan Swan H":2umqpzze]NP: I Got Rhythm.[/quote:2umqpzze] I got surgery.[/quote:2umqpzze] I got my gal. Who could ask for anything more? Later soupcan May 21 2009 08:42 AM My 12 year-old is already a die-hard Mets fan. Watches games, knows the players, etc. My 8-year old daughter is in training but has potential. She's a Dabidrye fan. My 10-year old son couldn't give a rats ass about them. But I'm...not... sad, 'cause 2 outta 3 ain't bad. Fman99 Jul 08 2009 10:27 AM The Dodgers put two guys on base last night, in one of the many innings that they did so. First and second, no outs. Fboy, watching on his little couch on the floor, says without a beat, "the Dodgers have a rally going here, Dad." It's fun to watch them pick up the jargon. Centerfield Jul 08 2009 02:07 PM My three-year old (four at the end of August) son has t-shirts for Santana and Wright. He has a Johan bobble-head. He had a Pedro jersey and 2 Beltran jerseys. But this year, he randomly picked Gary Sheffield as his favorite player. He still doesn't pay much attention to the games when they're on TV, but every once in a while, he'll look at the TV, see Sheffield batting and chant "Let's go Sheffield!" And Gary gets a hit (if not a HR) each time. And although he loves going to CitiField, you wouldn't know it by watching him play. When he's pretending to be a construction worker while playing outside, he always says he's doing the same thing. Tearing down Citifield and building a new Shea Stadium. sharpie Jul 08 2009 02:40 PM Lenny used to watch the games, wear the gear etc but no longer does (except the 1986 We're No 1 shirt he wore to the last CPF game, he wears that a lot). Friends, girls, rock 'n' roll won out. Happened to me for a while as well so I have hope. He still roots for them and enjoys going to games and if I'm watching he'll sometimes join me for a while, especially if he comes in near the end. My daughter has never cared. I suppose she would say she was a Mets fan if asked. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 08 2009 03:28 PM Lunchpail came into the room and noticed I had the game on the other night and said "Double play! Yay Mets!" but there was no double play to cheer. Too early to say where he winds up. seawolf17 Jul 08 2009 07:26 PM MiniWolf has enjoyed hitting off the tee lately. He makes me get my glove, then sets up the tee in the driveway and whacks the ball into the street, saying "I'm David Wright! I'm Number Five!" He can also sing (badly) the Jose Jose Jose song. Edgy DC Jul 08 2009 07:38 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":19mgiu7q]Lunchpail came into the room and noticed I had the game on the other night and said "Double play! Yay Mets!" but there was no double play to cheer. Too early to say where he winds up.[/quote:19mgiu7q] Keep that steady diet of bitchy fashion and cuisine shows coming. Everything will be jake. Fman99 Jul 08 2009 08:04 PM Fboy tonight told me that Manny reminded him of Sheffield because "they both hit righty and they both waggle their bats." Works for me. I didn't mention their common pharmeceutical hobbying.

Not sure I understand the rules of this one. Random thoughts from our own recent postings...? If so, here's my entry: Hmmm, That lineup's gonna score some runs tonight. For 3 good players and a prospect This has been puzzling me too Maine or Pelfrey Yeah, um, I say that. I mean, after all, These two look like superhero costumes.

="SteveJRogers"]Over at Dodger BlueBalls they actually consider Vin Scully a bit overatted because he is such a scared cow out there. Hmmm, that doesn't look like Vin.

That lineup's gonna score some runs tonight.

="Rockin' Doc":yd8sr0ng]Of course, what is in it for the Padres? Why would they want to unload a pair of all-stars for 3 good players and a prospect. Other than a salary dump, I don't see why they would go for it. [/quote:yd8sr0ng] The Pods would do it as a Peavy salary dump. And they have been actively trying to deal him. They have no reason to trade Adrian so they'd have to be enticed. that's why I'm giving them Fartinez and Parnell and/or whover else they want. ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":yd8sr0ng]This is crazy talk.[/quote:yd8sr0ng] I know, right? ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":yd8sr0ng]Peavy of course has a NT clause that he'd surely hammer us with, if not to reject NY entirely then to squeeze out years and $$$ you know we won;t spend. Plus for as good as Peavy is I don't trust him. [/quote:yd8sr0ng] Hmmm, I forgot about the NT and Peavy's aversion to NYC. And you're right about the $$$$. ="Centerfield":yd8sr0ng]The Mets say 10 weeks for Delgado. I think that puts him into August.[/quote:yd8sr0ng] That's a long time without a firstbaseman. Edgy DC May 19 2009 12:27 PM We have a firstbaseman. His name is Daniel Murphy. Put him there and watch him hit. He's not Carlos Delgado. But I'm certain he can do a damn good Dave Magadan imitation. And that's not such an awful thing for 6-10 weeks. In fact, I predict there'll be a minor controversy when Delgado comes back. At least, there would be. John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2009 12:32 PM Murphy if he continues at his current clip would basically be the 2nd or 3rd worst 1Bman in the league, offensively, and that's before considering defense. I'm not so sure. Edgy DC May 19 2009 12:38 PM And I'm betting he won't. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 19 2009 12:40 PM The Pods wanted a pretty good amount of stuff-- the rumored package at the time the Braves broke off negotiations was Escobar, Gorkys Hernandez (think Jacoby Ellsbury), Kris Medlen (think Adam Wainwright) and Charlie Morton/Jo-Jo Reyes-- for Peavy alone this offseason. For a young, improving, multi-tool player with unlimited marketing possibilities in SoCal (good-looking Mex-American) at an affordably locked-down price? They'd want a Reyes, at least. ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1115lmqh]Gimmee Nick the Stick.[/quote:1115lmqh] Seconded. But what are you giving? Given the team we're dealing with, it'll take young pitching. (Parnell? Parnell and Niese?) Frayed Knot May 19 2009 01:44 PM The Braves reportedly balked over the Pads insistence that they include pitching uber-prospect Tommy Hansen in any deal for Peavy. Hansen is really good and nearly ready -- a description that doesn't really fit anyone in the Met system. Natonals need pitching, pitching, and more pitching. Ceetar May 19 2009 01:50 PM ="Frayed Knot":1cys9nqh]The Braves reportedly balked over the Pads insistence that they include pitching uber-prospect Tommy Hansen in any deal for Peavy. Hansen is really good and nearly ready -- a description that doesn't really fit anyone in the Met system. Natonals need pitching, pitching, and more pitching.[/quote:1cys9nqh] True, but they do have Strasburg coming if they want him. Frayed Knot May 19 2009 01:57 PM That's one, now they just need nine more. OK maybe seven, but that includes an entire bullpen. btw, Peavy is already signed thru 2012 (2013 if you count the option) at pretty big bucks. I'm not sure he could finagle more money out of whatever team he holds no-trades against. In his case he's a southern boy who just may be one of the few to put NYC on his no-trade because he really doesn't want to be here. Most just simply put big-market teams on there figuring the small market won't deal for him anyway - effectively giving them a near complete N-T clause. Johnson, to my surprise, is only signed thru this season at $5.5 and will be a FA after that. Would make for a crowded 1B bag come August (he was barely competent in the OF before he snapped his leg in two) however I think Washington would be eager to move him ... but for a price Ugarte, for a price. John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2009 02:11 PM Rubin: ] Omar Minaya is holding a conference call with reporters regarding Carlos Delgado and the first baseman's projected 10-week absence. Minaya reiterated that it should be a 10-week absence based on the track record of other players who have had this procedure. He also insisted that the Mets would handle this from within. Minaya named Fernando Tatis and Daniel Murphy as the primary first baseman, only secondarily mentioning Jeremy Reed. Still, Minaya said he's "always involved" talking to clubs. "We will continue to be active in conversation with clubs," Minaya said, saying that concerns first baseman, starting pitching, relief pitching and everything else. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 19 2009 03:17 PM ="Frayed Knot":p0qejxb2]The Braves reportedly balked over the Pads insistence that they include pitching uber-prospect Tommy Hansen in any deal for Peavy. Hansen is really good and nearly ready -- a description that doesn't really fit anyone in the Met system. Natonals need pitching, pitching, and more pitching.[/quote:p0qejxb2] As I understood it, they'd been rebuffed for Hanson from square one. At that point, they went and asked for Medlen instead. Which, considering that a good number of major league personnel types seem to like Medlen at least as much as Hanson, is a bit like getting turned down for a handjob from your date, then asking for a handjob using your date's mouth. And, yeah, the Nationals need pitching... in volume. Stephen Strasburg is... ONLY... ONE... MAN! duan May 19 2009 04:07 PM aubrey huff might be a whole lot better an option, in that he's been known to play the OF badly rather then terribly. And you can't see the Orioles expecting too much when he's on $8 million. Ashie62 May 19 2009 11:12 PM 10 weeks in metspeak..I hesitate to say this, but Nick Johnson anyone, he crushes the Mets Edgy DC May 19 2009 11:26 PM About four people have already invoked Johnson. Frayed Knot May 20 2009 09:06 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 20 2009 09:14 AM ="Ashie62":1y5sbx17]10 weeks in metspeak..I hesitate to say this, but Nick Johnson anyone, [u:1y5sbx17]he crushes the Mets[/u:1y5sbx17][/quote:1y5sbx17] If by "crushes" you mean, 'hits worse than usual' well then, sure. .248/.380/.431 vs Mets (153 ABs) .273/.398/.457 overall career Swan Swan H May 20 2009 09:09 AM ="Edgy DC":nctew171]About four people have already invoked Johnson.[/quote:nctew171] I think Irish invoked Johnson in the David Wright thread. metirish May 20 2009 09:20 AM ="Swan Swan H":3dc1g4jv]="Edgy DC":3dc1g4jv]About four people have already invoked Johnson.[/quote:3dc1g4jv] I think Irish invoked Johnson in the David Wright thread.[/quote:3dc1g4jv] LOL Has Helton been mentioned yet? , it's an annual rite of passage that he does. Edgy DC May 20 2009 09:27 AM When Darryl Strawberry went down in 1985, did everybody try to imagine trades for Dave Parker or Glenn Wilson or Gary Ward? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 20 2009 11:23 AM ="Edgy DC":1t1tj5go]When Darryl Strawberry went down in 1985, did everybody try to imagine trades for Dave Parker or Glenn Wilson or Gary Ward?[/quote:1t1tj5go] Strawberry wasn't 36-going-on-37, and was signed for another 4 years. (Also, the fanbase/media corps wasn't quite as touchy, no?) Edgy DC May 20 2009 11:31 AM On one hand, I'm pretty sure two more weeks of Darryl Strawberry being available could have been the difference in 1985. On the other hand, I still wish folks would cool it with trade talk and the Mets would put Murphy and Tatis at first and re-stock at AAA. metsguyinmichigan May 20 2009 12:02 PM Nick Johnson has Yankee taint. Ick. So does Redding, but he logged more innings in his first start with us than he did in his entire Yankee career. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 20 2009 02:08 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":2ujf6l3z]So does Redding, but he logged more innings in his first start with us than he did in his entire Yankee career.[/quote:2ujf6l3z] ZZ Tim has the additional Yankee taint of growing up a Rochester MFY fan. Benjamin Grimm May 20 2009 02:13 PM I don't see the point of worrying too much about "taint." (I was really surprised about how so many Mets fans couldn't forgive Tom Glavine for having once been a Brave. I could see not liking a guy who's proven to be a jerk or a thug. I'm glad Roger Clemens never became a Met, and I hope that Michael Vick never does. (That would be pretty darn unlikely, anyway.) But to not want a guy just because he was once a Yankee or a Brave or a Phillie just doesn't make sense to me. Centerfield May 20 2009 02:56 PM joelmon > CPF posters LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 22 2009 01:01 PM Pertinent to our conversation in terms of market-gauging, Gammons on trade rumors regarding a few potential trade targets: ]The Nats have few chips to move. Nick Johnson and Austin Kearns should get action, although there has been little thus far. Boston wants to wait on David Ortiz and tabled a proposal of Johnson for Manny Delcarmen. and ]Indians GM Mark Shapiro says he spends "40 percent of my time denying false reports." ... Yes, with Jhonny Peralta's move to third base, he would deal Mark DeRosa for major league-ready pitching but otherwise will hold onto DeRosa into June. Something like Parnell for Johnson seems about right. Would you pull that trigger? And DeRosa almost certainly would require at least Jon Niese (along with something-- or somethings-- like Kunz or Gee as a deal-sweetener). metirish May 22 2009 01:11 PM I'd pull the trigger on Johnson, what would Boston do with Johnson? smg58 May 22 2009 01:52 PM The Indians got DeRosa for three prospects not on their top-20 list. If they get somebody like Niese or more than that, they will have gotten a very nice return on their investment -- especially since DeRosa has paid rather tepid dividends up to this point. My interest in Johnson depends on Delgado's status. Although, if Delgado is back before the deadline, we would be in a position to trade one of them and get back at least the equivalent of what we first gave up. (Assuming we don't overpay, that is.) But the combination of Murphy at first and Sheffield, Beltran, and Church in the outfield (with Tatis playing somewhere against lefties) isn't so bad that I'd compromise our bullpen. Frayed Knot May 22 2009 02:37 PM Remember that whatever trade goes down will be only for [u:21jaadak]4 months of Nick Johnson[/u:21jaadak] (and that's only if he stays healthy). We'd have to either extend him or bid on the open market for him after that. Not sure how baseball people would view Parnell or Neise in comparison to Delcarman Ashie62 May 22 2009 03:38 PM Nick Johnson is worth lower level prospects at best. Would never trade Parnell for a guy who could easily miss 2 months breaking his wrist falling out of bed.. Kearns does nothing for me. An expensive Michael Young was moved to 3rd and peddled in the off season. Maybe Texas would take Castillo as part of something.

Yeah, this has been puzzling me too.

C'mon - I never make WATPs. Maine or Pelfrey + Fmart, Parnell and anyone from the ML roster (Murphy?) exceptin' Reyes and Wright for Peavy and Adrian Gonzalez. Gonzalez has a great contract but Peavy's making boatloads. Discuss...!

="metirish":21zi6zxe]Unlike Keith I never say Metsies[/quote:21zi6zxe] Yeah, um, I say that. MFS62 May 19 2009 07:53 AM I never use "we/us" when talking about the team. I'm not on their payroll. I sometimes use "we/us" when talking about the fans, but more often just "the fans". Later Vic Sage May 19 2009 09:29 AM my mom used to call them "your Mets" when discussing them with me after a loss; they were "my Mets" when she talked about them after a win. Context is everything. Fman99 May 19 2009 09:30 AM ="Edgy DC"]I try not to use we but still catch myself doing it anyhow. This is me also. I find myself about to type "we" and change it to "the Mets." We are Mets fans. We are not Mets. So maybe, abstractly, "we" could mean, "We Mets fans need a hit," or something like that. Zvon May 19 2009 06:54 PM I use both, as well as "the Mets". Never gave it much thought as to why which comes out, but upon reflection I'd have to say I usually use "we" in anticipation of events about to happen and "they" in retrospect of what has happened. Might have something to do with being in the moment while viewing a game. Also how, when viewing a game, I feel the team as well as us fans are kind of in the same boat. Before things happen we all have our hopes. After things happen is the reality of what the team did. I usually use "the Mets" in referring to the team when I am not observing them play. I chose we/us for this poll because I think most of what I say in terms of rooting for the Mets is said with hope. Kong76 May 19 2009 07:24 PM VS: my mom used to call them "your Mets" when discussing them with me after a loss; they were "my Mets" when she talked about them after a win. Context is everything <<< Funny, mine too many times. She took to calling them your/my Metsies though. I like that Keith has the balls to call them the Metsies on tv. Lundy May 20 2009 10:27 AM Use of we/us happens often at the ballpark, where you feel like you're a part of the action: "C'mon Carlos, we need a hit here!" But use of them/they often happens in discussion afterwards: "I can't believe they only had three hits" Also: the let's in "Let's go Mets" is a contraction of "let us" TransMonk May 20 2009 10:34 AM Typically WE/US. Sometimes THEM/THEY. But mostly WE/US. I'm not ashamed.

FYI - ]Gonzalez gets $9.5 mil deal through 2010 By Bill Center UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER April 2, 2007 Adrian Gonzalez wanted security. The Padres wanted Adrian Gonzalez free of salary haggles. �So we compromised,� said John Boggs, the first baseman's agent. �Both sides didn't get exactly what they wanted, which means it's probably a good deal.� The Padres and Gonzalez, 25, yesterday announced a $9.5 million contract that runs through 2010 with the club holding an option for 2011 at $5.5 million.

NYPost is speculatin' about where the Mets new 1Bman is going to come from... ]Although Manuel isn't pushing for a deal, he said last week that GM Omar Minaya has been working the phones lately in an attempt to acquire a first baseman. Trade possibilities include Nick Johnson, Aubrey Huff and Mark DeRosa. However, anything more than a low-rent addition is considered a long shot because the Mets already have a payroll near $150 million and don't want to increase it due to luxury-tax considerations. Free-agent options include Richie Sexson, who played for the Yankees last season, and Jose Vidro. They say Johnson and DeRosa are both in the last year of their respective contracts and are both making $5.5mill. Huff is also in his walk year and making $8mill. soupcan sez: Offer the Padres the farm for Adrian Gonzalez and Peavy. Fernando Martinez, Parnell, Maine or Pelfrey. Anybody they want not named Reyes or Wright.

I try to rarely use 'we'. I think during the course of a game I may say 'we' or 'us' but in general terms I say 'they' or 'them'. I mean, after all, I'm not on the team or employed by the Mets in any capacity so...

These two look like superhero costumes.

Abstain.

B. Enough change already.

B, but again I hate them both. At least I hate them less than black though.

I abstain, they both suck hard.